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Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 11:51:49 AM   
Jonc101


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Status: offline 		America has its illegal migrants' problem but it's nothing on the deluge we're receiving in Australia. Using the mantra 'political persecution' we have hordes flooding in from Sri Lanka now, not just the usual thousands from Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan.

The Sri Lankan people smugglers are now discounting their tariff from $10,000 to a cheap $500 in order to fill up the leaky boats.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/smugglers-bargains-set-off-boat-rush-with-passage-from-sri-lanka-for-500/story-fn9hm1gu-1226530845651

THis Govt. is rooted...whatever it does it just keeps losing as our fifth column 'human rights' lawyers stymies all attempts to deport the buggers.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 3:36:27 PM   
naughtynick81


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Status: offline 		How much tax payers money have we wasted on these people since the Gillard government have come in? Time to pour this money into helping our homeless legitimate citizens.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 4:55:58 PM   
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It's always easier to deport "illegal immigrants" when you dehumanize them (refer to them as 'buggers' or 'these people' on whom tax payer dollars are 'wasted.')

Mass deportations are expensive and logistically challenging, but natives often favor such measures without wanting to pay the costs.

The USA was built by and made into a great nation through immigration. One key to any good policy is figuring out how to open the door to the right people who are hungry and motivated to improve themselves and their new nation. Historically, too, the last wave of immigrants is 'blamed' for the current ills of the USA, a trend that peaks during recessions or difficult times.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 5:24:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonc101

THis Govt. is rooted...whatever it does it just keeps losing as our fifth column 'human rights' lawyers stymies all attempts to deport the buggers.



Excellent - I think you must be this site's very first Australian Aborigine, Jonc. Welcome indeed!

Bad luck about all those buggers you've had coming in, though. My commiserations.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 6:59:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonc101

THis Govt. is rooted...whatever it does it just keeps losing as our fifth column 'human rights' lawyers stymies all attempts to deport the buggers.



Excellent - I think you must be this site's very first Australian Aborigine, Jonc. Welcome indeed!

Bad luck about all those buggers you've had coming in, though. My commiserations.


Darnit Peon, you beat me to it.....

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 7:05:27 PM   
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The USA was built by and made into a great nation through immigration.



You seem to forget,

A) They were here legally,

and

B) They assimilated, turned away from their native language and embraced fully an American culture

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 7:05:51 PM   
Jonc101


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Status: offline 		Nobody's opposed to immigration per se, we're all migrants after all, so-called natives included. However, it's the illegals we object to. We've no idea who these people are, destroying their IDs or giving them to the snakeheads to on-sell on the black market. Many of them are fugitive Tamil Tigers clearing out of Sri Lanka to escape prosecution and regroup in Australia in order to re-establish their terrorist network for another go back in Sri Lanka.

As for costs of repatriation/deportation - that's infinitismal compared to the welfare bill over many years. Currently the Australian Govt gives $3,000 to everyone who volunteers returning to Sri Lanka. Cheap at the price to get rid of them!

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 7:48:41 PM   
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As for costs of repatriation/deportation - that's infinitismal compared to the welfare bill over many years. Currently the Australian Govt gives $3,000 to everyone who volunteers returning to Sri Lanka. Cheap at the price to get rid of them!


Manpower to round them up.... costs of determining who is and who isnt legal. Court battles and delays in departure. The actual cost of getting out of the country. Not to mention the one's who return.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 8:22:50 PM   
Jonc101


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Status: offline 		Still cheaper than paying men thousands of $ a month to stay on the dole, sucking up benefits and possibly planning anti-social acts here and back in their home countries. Don't forget we don't know who these people are, seeing as they destroy their IDs, a suspicious act in itself as they try to convince us of their latest stories.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 8:46:48 PM   
Marini


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Don't forget we don't know who these people are, seeing as they destroy their IDs, a suspicious act in itself as they try to convince us of their latest stories.


Now you have done it!
How dare you question the motives of anyone that comes into your country?

You are going to be called all manner of xenophobic and racist.
If anyone "manages" to get into your country, they must be okay or they would not be there, right?

It's not "cool" to question anyone who manages to get into your country these days, just don't worry, be happy and hope for the best.

Good luck mate

< Message edited by Marini -- 12/5/2012 8:54:04 PM >

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 8:56:02 PM   
Jonc101


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quote:

You are going to be called all manner of xenophobic and racist.
You are going to be called all manner of xenophobic and racist.

Don't worry, I've already experienced those cliched labels and worse from all the usual non-thinking lefties. Water off a duck's back :-)

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 8:57:17 PM   
Marini


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonc101

quote:

You are going to be called all manner of xenophobic and racist.
You are going to be called all manner of xenophobic and racist.

Don't worry, I've already experienced those cliched labels and worse from all the usual non-thinking lefties. Water off a duck's back :-)

FJ


Believe it or not, all lefties are NOT the same!
It's not wise to paint any group of people with the same broad brush.


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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 8:57:53 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		lol.. he still has lots to learn here.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:15:35 PM   
vincentML


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The birth rate in the USA is falling steadily. We are in serious need of more immigrants to maintain our future economic progress.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"




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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:20:49 PM   
Jonc101


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Status: offline 		Well, I'm a lefty, or thought I was, but was never was as silly as those who currently wave the lefty banner.
To me, the old-style lefties had sensible notions based on real politics and economics, not all sorts of airy-fairy social engineering psych games like some of the chancers who tend to populate these social networks.

Being seen as being of the 'left' is suddenly very fashionable amongst weak-minded and impressionable wannabes.

FJ

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:21:22 PM   
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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:22:33 PM   
Jonc101


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Status: offline 		No probs with that, mate. But you surely prefer your migrants to be legitimate and arrive with IDs and passports.

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:40:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jonc101

No probs with that, mate. But you surely prefer your migrants to be legitimate and arrive with IDs and passports.

You mean paper is more important than people? What is it that makes a human illegal anyway?

False passports are so freakin easy to obtain, aren't they?

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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:42:15 PM   
Marini


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ORIGINAL: vincentML
quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonc101

No probs with that, mate. But you surely prefer your migrants to be legitimate and arrive with IDs and passports.

You mean paper is more important than people? What is it that makes a human illegal anyway?

False passports are so freakin easy to obtain, aren't they?


Here we go!



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RE: Illegal immigrants - 12/5/2012 9:43:29 PM   
tazzygirl


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False passports are so freakin easy to obtain, aren't they?


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Near-perfect-fake-IDs-pose-law-enforcement-challenge-153736705.html

Yes, its "authentic" ID's and passports that make all the difference.

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