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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:03:26 AM   
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I was talking in general but true.

Ive never used videochat though. I need to look into that venue...

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:04:49 AM   
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If you are shaking it on cam, I would like to be there at such an auspicious event.

You can quote me.

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:05:41 AM   
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Even if you had to pay to watch?


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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:13:33 AM   
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Naaa.... wow.. was about to post something... but the influx would kill the chat room.... lol

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:16:25 AM   
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Does that even work when it's empty?


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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:20:51 AM   
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lol... that room is never empty

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:24:05 AM   
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Fair point.

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:28:30 AM   
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lol i just went in there. had no idea it would be so full. too crowded in there. yuck

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:39:55 AM   
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How else you gonna make your money, honey? If there arent many in there, and the majority wont pay, it reduces your chances. Gotta play the numbers.

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:40:56 AM   
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Prostitution is the difference. Most guys and gals who visit prostitutes want something quick and easy. They don't care about each other. They may not even like each other. Their simply offering a sexual service. A financial dom/domme - like any other - seem to strive more than that. They may even want some kind of relationship.


And that actually shows that you haven't got a clue at all....when you believe that most (or maybe even all) don't care about the prostitute they visit...

I had many punters who cared a heck of a lot about me when I worked in that field and also know quite a few nice friends who still care a lot about prostitutes they visited or still visit... now...ok...some punters surely dont...like Steven Gerald James Wright...but to believe that they generally or most of them don't care has no is an unproven fact and therefore just your personal view and nothing else....

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 3:00:37 PM   
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We all know that financial dommes exist in the BDSM realm. But how can anyone tell the difference between a financial domme and a prostitute? The question is almost as similar as the difference between a guy desperate to get off and another guy who really wants to explore. Or it could be a "Domme" who expects to be served without even a frank conversation about boundaries and expectations. Both parties are looking for nothing more than a quick fix. It's frustrating because it's hard to tell. Just read the journals members have placed online. We usually tell them to fuck off.

Anyone can go into Videochat and ask for money to view their cam. It's none of Collarme's business as long as they don't ask for money publicly. Try quoting your prices in the Videochat room and admin will threaten to kick you out. On the flip side, it's hard for people who come here just to socialize. They might find an angry "financial domme" who expects to get paid the second you click the cam. A few months ago, I had one young woman who became insulting after I merely asked, "How are you?". How dare I try to start a conversation and not even pay a dime for it? My answer: A collarme member who is using the site for what whom it was made.

So, who has right of way on Collarme? Should members ask to pay before viewing a cam? Or should members expect not to pay? Is it to be expected to have to sift through the profile to see who wants money for a conversation? Should "financial dommes" publicly insult a member in the public room if they express frustration over this issue? If financial dommes truley exist, are they anything like the dom/dommes who enjoy this lifestyle?

That could be a good way of knowing the difference between a financial domme and a prostitute. A financial dom/domme - like any other dom/domme - might try to establish a relationship. They might try to communicate boundaries and expectations. If not, they are they any different that the individuals who expect to play right at "Hello". Is there a difference between asking for a quick orgasm or a quick buck? If so, what's the difference?

Prostitution is the difference. Most guys and gals who visit prostitutes want something quick and easy. They don't care about each other. They may not even like each other. Their simply offering a sexual service. A financial dom/domme - like any other - seem to strive more than that. They may even want some kind of relationship.

That's the difference between a financial domme and a prostitute. And that's why I'll tell you to fuck off. I'll tell you to fuck off just as I would tell any Domme or sub to fuck off if they expect to role-play at "hello". That's why I would call you a prostitute. And that's why members who tell a "financial domme" to get lost should be given right of way on the site.

Go and make your money some place else. My guess would be "erotice services".


I've said it before...I'll say it again....

This is a MAJOR cash flow opportunity for CM!

FinDommes are seeking employment and income....charge them accordingly.

Same with ProDommes.

It's an income source that will not piss off anyone...CM you're being used...yeah, I get it...volume....eyeballs...I get it.

Start out low and explain to everyone "this is a test case....the likelihood is....we'll raise rates".

You can...or you can decide not to but....at a cheap enough price....EVERYONE will sign on!

Over time...fewer will...as you adjust the price...you'll find the drop off rate.

Ergo......sum.

(I just have to note here that....it's actually cumbersome to have a brain the size of a small galactic nebulae).

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 3:07:10 PM   
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There is zero difference between the two. Be a lot of smoke and mirrors saying otherwise by mentul folks, because they are. well, mentul.

Just watch some porn till you get yourself a nice soul mate or wilderbeest fuk i dont know what yer into other than whining

Cam chat is one of the oldest exploits of the net along with em 0xxx numbers at 50 gabillion quid a minute

i like the lesbian profiles the best and the whore section i mean pro dommes

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 3:10:53 PM   
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Hmmm.. does that mean every time you jack off to a porn video, we can have you arrested for being a john?

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 3:13:11 PM   
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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 3:17:36 PM   
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I want this stuff



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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 8:55:21 PM   
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what's a mentul?

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 9:08:53 PM   
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I was afraid to ask

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 10:10:46 PM   
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im thinking mentul is a spelling of mental... by mental folks lol or hes mixing up a language or something

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 10:22:20 PM   
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i feel so sorry for you.that attitude will just get worse & worse over the years, repelling any women away from you.

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RE: Financial Dommes vs. Prostitution - 12/7/2012 11:49:29 PM   
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quote:

That's the difference between a financial domme and a prostitute. And that's why I'll tell you to fuck off. I'll tell you to fuck off just as I would tell any Domme or sub to fuck off if they expect to role-play at "hello". That's why I would call you a prostitute. And that's why members who tell a "financial domme" to get lost should be given right of way on the site.


Welcome to the message boards' side of Collarme, nakedfreedom.

First off, I haven't noticed any rudeness test one has to take before joining this site. It's up to us if good manners are left behind when we decide to talk with other people online.

Secondly, lol, I see you like to get nekkie on webcam. Good for you. (I hope you've had lots of fun over the past four years.)

Third...sex workers are sex workers. Either choose to be a customer or...don't. I don't care if someone is a prostitute, does phone sex, or expects to be paid for online domination roleplay. This past month, two guys offered me at least $300 each to do things to them...and I am NOT interested. You can tell why sex workers are here at CM...this site is loaded with pushy wanna-be customers and I'm glad some ladies are willing to cull the john herd to give us some breathing room.

Online people being labeled as prostitutes? Sex workers, yes, but doesn't there have to be some kind of r/t penetration going on (or at least a real time hand job) to fall under the definition of prostitution? Let's just call a spade a spade and try not to mix apples and oranges.

I guess it's harder for you to find someone to play with in video chat without someone getting rude about wanting to be paid. Maybe you should try making friendships with someone online and then the two of you...together...go into the video room to roleplay. Or better yet, find BDSM munch groups nearby enough for you to go to them, make friends with r/t kinksters and maybe find a long term partner/girlfriend...and when you have to be apart, meet up with her in the video room for some nice, toe curling...

My lifemate started off by writing to me, no video chat sessions, and our first meetup included a restaurant and time spent together shopping in a mall (his white shoes triggered my panic attacks and he wanted to buy some that wouldn't). True, I probably had him nekkid and tied up by our second date Maybe it was the third or forth.

Funny, but if we hadn't met through Collarme, we would eventually would have met through KATS, a munch group in Charleston, WV. I haven't had anyone being rude to me at our munches or play parties, not yet anyways, but then I haven't had anyone drop their pants to say hello...like lots of guys seem too willing to do online.

My advice? It's pointless to try to define terms that have already been defined. If someone is rude and wants money before saying hello and negotiating a scene, you can stand up for yourself and say no thanks without...showing off how many cuss words you know how to spell. Get to know women through letters and chatrooms before deciding to roleplay with them in a video chatroom, and...get thee to a BDSM munch group. (Don't they have any in Canada?)

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Is it to be expected to have to sift through the profile to see who wants money for a conversation?

People should expect that I have read their profile, some journal entries, and stuff they have posted in these boards whenever they send a first letter to me. I want to know something about the person I may be talking with. But then, I came here to find my submissive and for friendship...not to cyberly hump someone's leg when I haven't even bothered to read their profile, lol. (My apologies to all the cyber leg humpers out there.) Yes, I read yours too, before responding to the questions posted in your thread.

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Should "financial dommes" publicly insult a member in the public room if they express frustration over this issue?

Personally, I wouldn't "express frustration" because there are sadists here who like that kind of thing. Insults? Many guys come here to get their humiliation play fix. If this is not what you're into, behave like a gentleman in the first place and don't set yourself up for this situation. You were wanting to have some online roleplay with women who were not willing to do this for free...this reminds me of my days of knocking on doors, trying to sell Fuller Brush and Avon products to people who were annoyed to have someone knocking at their door bothering them. Move on. Try a different approach.

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A financial dom/domme - like any other dom/domme - might try to establish a relationship. They might try to communicate boundaries and expectations. If not, they are they any different that the individuals who expect to play right at "Hello". Is there a difference between asking for a quick orgasm or a quick buck? If so, what's the difference?

I do step in to control my slave's finances when I feel it's necessary. When his heating system died and needed to be replaced, I made all the hard decisions for him that made this possible...including cutting him off of his Cialis and cutting his college dropout daughter off of his auto insurance. Not quite what you expected, is it? "Financial domination" did not involve making him buy me leather boots and fetish clothing, etc.

If your targeted audience finds your behavior obnoxious...pointing fingers at financial dommes and calling them prostitutes will not melt anyone's heart enough to give you a freebie. Guys try to treat me like their free kink delivery system all the time and I choose to use the block and delete feature in the mailroom (or just laugh quietly to myself) rather than let them push any of my buttons.

I haven't been into the video rooms and wouldn't know up from down, but...I cannot blame any female who doesn't want to spend a lot of time talking with some guy in video chat. Most guys would be fapping off under some table, never intending to meet up with her in r/t. The main reason why I stopped posting my pic online is...that asshats printed a copy and felt the need to tell me that they had jerked off to my pic and splatted cum all over my face. Consequently, if someone wants to see how I look like they need to "meet up or shut up". Also, scening is done in r/t, after getting to know each other, discussing limits, etc., and not through cybering.

Each day you make your own choice of what you are going to do. Since your profile says you haven't done much of this in r/t, it would be a good idea to read SM 101 by Jay Wiseman and probably The Loving Dominant by John Warren. Learn safeties, go to munch groups and play parties and then go after what you want.

If your needs are being met through video chat, cool your jets and have patience. People have played with you for free before and they will again.

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