Kana
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ORIGINAL: dominlosangeles quote:
ORIGINAL: Lucifyre quote:
ORIGINAL: dominlosangeles First reality check: If this is an online relationship, and you haven't even talked on the phone, you don't know if she's genuine. She could be a 65-year-old grandmother who is just having fun getting your emails. She could be a he. Anything is possible. Second reality check: Assuming she is genuine, you are going about this all wrong by thinking in terms of "breaking her out of her shell" and "turning this friendship into a D/S relationship." Your first step should be in turning this online fantasy into something real, which simply means meeting in a public place over a cup of coffee and talking like two human beings. While I don't disagree with Kanas advice, in fact it's good stuff...but a little bit advanced advice for this situation IMO. I do think the above quoted is a much better road to follow for the OP at this stage. He is 22 years old, no experience, just coming out of his own fantasy shell and needs to interact with like-minded folks BEFORE jumping in with both feet. Plus, it really is a good idea to find out if his *ahem* target subject is in fact genuine and real because sadly, the above example is far to often the reality over the interwebz than what we in fact are actually seeking. So, OP...my advice to you is, find out if this girl is what she says she is, then go meet her for coffee. Keep your first meeting with her on vanilla type "get to know her" terms, then on your second date (if one occurs) you can tell her to take her panties off for dinner. Do a search for local groups in your area, go meet people in the flesh. Fuck a bunch of that getting your feet wet (in the BDSM world) in a chat room or through email bullshit because when it's all said and done, a keyboard can't suck your cock. Enjoy! Lucifyre That was my feeling too. Kanas' advice was fine, but a little too advanced for the OP. Kanas' advice somewhat assumes that the dom knows how to create a foundation where the sub trusts and likes him, and then he can move on to dominating the sub. My hunch is the OP really hasn't established that foundation -- in part because you can only establish a small part of that foundation online and in part, frankly, because at this point the OP has very little sense of how to act in a BDSM context. He's like a lot of people at his age. He says he wants to learn because in his heart he believes he already knows it all and the "advice" he wants is a trick or two that will put him over the top. He doesn't realize his own lack of knowledge yet. The OP is obviously immature and emotional, starting off by calling himself "a humble grasshopper" seeking "advanced advice" and then going into a rage when people actually offer advice. I am not sure how he's interacted with this sub online, but his conduct on this bulletin board would make me guess it's been a mixed bag at best, which may be a reason for the sub's reticent (if the sub is in fact a young woman rather than a stubbled-faced truck driver). Well shit-ya gotta learn somewhere. And what I said was clearly intended, very much remembering how hesitant I was when I was new, a few potentially great relationships with some terrific women lost because I wouldn't/couldn't seize the reins, because I was still trying to be "a nice guy," have her like me, was scared of losing this person I'd sought for so long (A fetish delivery system, to be exact. At that age, I had nooooo clue how to be in a real relationship, much less be a true partner). In others words, I was terrified. And it took time to learn to overcome those societal leanings, that training I'd had all my life and to let loose the inner beast. And how did I learn that? The same way I learn most things. By fucking up. Not once, not twice, but time and time again. Chortles. Relationships are like raising goldfish, you hope you don't kill your first few.
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