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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 4:36:51 PM   
mysteries1984


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OP, your response makes you sound immature. Why not actually take the advice you were given? Why ask for help then respond with a threat of trolling? That says more about your character than your initial post. I don't think anybody was unreasonable in their answering.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 4:37:05 PM   
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Wow... first we have super aids and germaphobia.

Than we have blatant attacking on my character. Wow, okay never mind. You people are so helpful!

I mean I ask for simply advice and you assume the worst.

If this keeps up I'm just going to have to start Trolling the shit out of this site.


A couple of pieces of advice Grasshopper:

1) You got some knee jerk reactions. While knee jerk reactions aren't always palatable, they usually represent good idea of how people will react during the first moment. I have a depressed immune system due to two rounds on radiation therapy for cancer. I'm extremely aware of shaking hands, etc, because pneumonia sucks. I would be freaked out by someone randomly kissing my hand.

2) I understand where you're at in your life, but you will need to take things with a grain of salt. Men far out number women in the SoCal community and to gain some ground you will need to learn to shrug things off.

If you want some ideas about getting her out into the San Diego community, feel free to drop me an email.


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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 4:40:47 PM   
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OP, your response makes you sound immature.


He's 22. I doubt that many of us here were mature at 22. So, before you going throwing rocks think about where you were emotionally at 22.

Matter of fact, there are some here who are much older and less mature than OP.


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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 5:13:59 PM   
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I gave you solid feedback, Spanky. No trolling. Straightforward from the heart experience.
If you choose not to take it, that's on you, but I was dead serious in what I said.

Edited to add-And really, making threats across the interwebzzzz. Come on, be real. We've seen trolls come and go. Besides which, all you'll do is piss off the mods, and that's just el stupido

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 5:43:19 PM   
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If Master forced me to go out and kiss strangers' hands, that would make me want to never be around people even more. I don't think I would ever want to see another living person ever again.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 5:51:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: mysteries1984

OP, your response makes you sound immature.


He's 22. I doubt that many of us here were mature at 22. So, before you going throwing rocks think about where you were emotionally at 22.

Matter of fact, there are some here who are much older and less mature than OP.



I'm not throwing rocks at anybody. I'm stating my opinion. I do think his response made him sound immature.I'm sure there are others less mature yet older than him, but threatening to troll when I didn't like what I heard is not something I've ever done, at his age or younger.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/9/2012 9:21:31 PM   
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Here ya go honey, your very own drama llama to ride home.


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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/10/2012 4:16:45 AM   
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OP - if my dominant made me kiss the hand of 10 people i didn't know, i think i would freak. It certainly wouldn't cure my shyness.

Are you two meeting in real time? If so, why not? She wants a D/s relationship and for me that requires face to face contact. If there is something there for the two of you - that connection - then carry on from there. When i met my first dom, we talked about BDSM in general, and when it became apparent that we had something, more specific as to what the two of us were looking for. The conversation also included how he wanted his relationships to go - rules, orientation, philosophy and so on. From that info. i was able to decide if it was something i wanted to pursue with him.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/10/2012 1:06:26 PM   
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We've seen trolls come and go. Besides which, all you'll do is piss off the mods, and that's just el stupido


Agreed.


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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/10/2012 11:38:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Teios

Wow... first we have super aids and germaphobia.

Than we have blatant attacking on my character. Wow, okay never mind. You people are so helpful!

I mean I ask for simply advice and you assume the worst.

If this keeps up I'm just going to have to start Trolling the shit out of this site.


Ahaha, trolling is the threat you give for receiving good advice?
Oh god, get off the internet, dude, you're not ready.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/11/2012 12:47:57 AM   
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Hey, first post! (oh yeah I found a proxy that lets me through my schools internet blocker!)

So I'm new to the D/s relationship lifestyle. A few months ago I said 'screw it, I'm just going to do it'. Bdsm has long been a fantasy for me and now I'm taking steps to make it into a reality. I've decided to start with an online relationship, to kind of get my feet wet with. A few months ago, on another site, I answered an ad with a submissive woman seeking a Dom. So far we've kept it just a friendship. Not a real D/s relationship.

She's a shy girl who was looking for a way to to 'break out of her shell' and so I've been trying to help her on and off for a few months. She feels like a shut-in, not experiencing life. So been giving her easy tasks, like kiss 10 people's hand in a day. Something to make her more adventurous. However, I want to start taking this friendship and turn it into a D/s relationship. I've touched the subject, but she's nervous. I'm struggling because I want to start taking the steps, but I'm afraid it will scare her off.

What suggestions does the community have?



First reality check: If this is an online relationship, and you haven't even talked on the phone, you don't know if she's genuine. She could be a 65-year-old grandmother who is just having fun getting your emails. She could be a he. Anything is possible.

Second reality check: Assuming she is genuine, you are going about this all wrong by thinking in terms of "breaking her out of her shell" and "turning this friendship into a D/S relationship." Your first step should be in turning this online fantasy into something real, which simply means meeting in a public place over a cup of coffee and talking like two human beings.

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/11/2012 7:10:01 AM   
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First reality check: If this is an online relationship, and you haven't even talked on the phone, you don't know if she's genuine. She could be a 65-year-old grandmother who is just having fun getting your emails. She could be a he. Anything is possible.

Second reality check: Assuming she is genuine, you are going about this all wrong by thinking in terms of "breaking her out of her shell" and "turning this friendship into a D/S relationship." Your first step should be in turning this online fantasy into something real, which simply means meeting in a public place over a cup of coffee and talking like two human beings.



While I don't disagree with Kanas advice, in fact it's good stuff...but a little bit advanced advice for this situation IMO.
I do think the above quoted is a much better road to follow for the OP at this stage.
He is 22 years old, no experience, just coming out of his own fantasy shell and needs to interact with like-minded folks BEFORE jumping in with both feet. Plus, it really is a good idea to find out if his *ahem* target subject is in fact genuine and real because sadly, the above example is far to often the reality over the interwebz than what we in fact are actually seeking.

So, OP...my advice to you is, find out if this girl is what she says she is, then go meet her for coffee. Keep your first meeting with her on vanilla type "get to know her" terms, then on your second date (if one occurs) you can tell her to take her panties off for dinner. Do a search for local groups in your area, go meet people in the flesh. Fuck a bunch of that getting your feet wet (in the BDSM world) in a chat room or through email bullshit because when it's all said and done, a keyboard can't suck your cock.

Enjoy!

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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/11/2012 4:05:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre


quote:

ORIGINAL: dominlosangeles

First reality check: If this is an online relationship, and you haven't even talked on the phone, you don't know if she's genuine. She could be a 65-year-old grandmother who is just having fun getting your emails. She could be a he. Anything is possible.

Second reality check: Assuming she is genuine, you are going about this all wrong by thinking in terms of "breaking her out of her shell" and "turning this friendship into a D/S relationship." Your first step should be in turning this online fantasy into something real, which simply means meeting in a public place over a cup of coffee and talking like two human beings.



While I don't disagree with Kanas advice, in fact it's good stuff...but a little bit advanced advice for this situation IMO.
I do think the above quoted is a much better road to follow for the OP at this stage.
He is 22 years old, no experience, just coming out of his own fantasy shell and needs to interact with like-minded folks BEFORE jumping in with both feet. Plus, it really is a good idea to find out if his *ahem* target subject is in fact genuine and real because sadly, the above example is far to often the reality over the interwebz than what we in fact are actually seeking.

So, OP...my advice to you is, find out if this girl is what she says she is, then go meet her for coffee. Keep your first meeting with her on vanilla type "get to know her" terms, then on your second date (if one occurs) you can tell her to take her panties off for dinner. Do a search for local groups in your area, go meet people in the flesh. Fuck a bunch of that getting your feet wet (in the BDSM world) in a chat room or through email bullshit because when it's all said and done, a keyboard can't suck your cock.

Enjoy!

Lucifyre



That was my feeling too. Kanas' advice was fine, but a little too advanced for the OP. Kanas' advice somewhat assumes that the dom knows how to create a foundation where the sub trusts and likes him, and then he can move on to dominating the sub. My hunch is the OP really hasn't established that foundation -- in part because you can only establish a small part of that foundation online and in part, frankly, because at this point the OP has very little sense of how to act in a BDSM context. He's like a lot of people at his age. He says he wants to learn because in his heart he believes he already knows it all and the "advice" he wants is a trick or two that will put him over the top. He doesn't realize his own lack of knowledge yet.

The OP is obviously immature and emotional, starting off by calling himself "a humble grasshopper" seeking "advanced advice" and then going into a rage when people actually offer advice. I am not sure how he's interacted with this sub online, but his conduct on this bulletin board would make me guess it's been a mixed bag at best, which may be a reason for the sub's reticent (if the sub is in fact a young woman rather than a stubbled-faced truck driver).


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RE: Humble grasshopper seeks wisdom from mighty dragons - 12/11/2012 6:35:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dominlosangeles

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucifyre


quote:

ORIGINAL: dominlosangeles

First reality check: If this is an online relationship, and you haven't even talked on the phone, you don't know if she's genuine. She could be a 65-year-old grandmother who is just having fun getting your emails. She could be a he. Anything is possible.

Second reality check: Assuming she is genuine, you are going about this all wrong by thinking in terms of "breaking her out of her shell" and "turning this friendship into a D/S relationship." Your first step should be in turning this online fantasy into something real, which simply means meeting in a public place over a cup of coffee and talking like two human beings.



While I don't disagree with Kanas advice, in fact it's good stuff...but a little bit advanced advice for this situation IMO.
I do think the above quoted is a much better road to follow for the OP at this stage.
He is 22 years old, no experience, just coming out of his own fantasy shell and needs to interact with like-minded folks BEFORE jumping in with both feet. Plus, it really is a good idea to find out if his *ahem* target subject is in fact genuine and real because sadly, the above example is far to often the reality over the interwebz than what we in fact are actually seeking.

So, OP...my advice to you is, find out if this girl is what she says she is, then go meet her for coffee. Keep your first meeting with her on vanilla type "get to know her" terms, then on your second date (if one occurs) you can tell her to take her panties off for dinner. Do a search for local groups in your area, go meet people in the flesh. Fuck a bunch of that getting your feet wet (in the BDSM world) in a chat room or through email bullshit because when it's all said and done, a keyboard can't suck your cock.

Enjoy!

Lucifyre



That was my feeling too. Kanas' advice was fine, but a little too advanced for the OP. Kanas' advice somewhat assumes that the dom knows how to create a foundation where the sub trusts and likes him, and then he can move on to dominating the sub. My hunch is the OP really hasn't established that foundation -- in part because you can only establish a small part of that foundation online and in part, frankly, because at this point the OP has very little sense of how to act in a BDSM context. He's like a lot of people at his age. He says he wants to learn because in his heart he believes he already knows it all and the "advice" he wants is a trick or two that will put him over the top. He doesn't realize his own lack of knowledge yet.

The OP is obviously immature and emotional, starting off by calling himself "a humble grasshopper" seeking "advanced advice" and then going into a rage when people actually offer advice. I am not sure how he's interacted with this sub online, but his conduct on this bulletin board would make me guess it's been a mixed bag at best, which may be a reason for the sub's reticent (if the sub is in fact a young woman rather than a stubbled-faced truck driver).


Well shit-ya gotta learn somewhere. And what I said was clearly intended, very much remembering how hesitant I was when I was new, a few potentially great relationships with some terrific women lost because I wouldn't/couldn't seize the reins, because I was still trying to be "a nice guy," have her like me, was scared of losing this person I'd sought for so long (A fetish delivery system, to be exact. At that age, I had nooooo clue how to be in a real relationship, much less be a true partner).
In others words, I was terrified. And it took time to learn to overcome those societal leanings, that training I'd had all my life and to let loose the inner beast.
And how did I learn that?
The same way I learn most things.
By fucking up.
Not once, not twice, but time and time again.
Chortles.
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