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128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:14:01 AM   
twicehappy


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Status: offline 		I just ran across this looking for something else online and my only thought was"WACKO" so i had to come back and share, read these 128 rules for a slave and let's hear the commentary please.

Some of them(a few) are actually well thought out, but some of them.........

128 Basic slave Rules

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:19:47 AM   
kiska


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Status: offline 		Oh wow I didn't know that thing was still around ...

You shouldn't fail to mention the way they tell you that every slave must learn these rules as well ... Didn't it entail something like writing down each rule in a coloured marker that corresponded with what that rule meant to you and your willingness to comply with that rule. Then after you've written them down you are to strip naked and kneel in front of a mirror, quietly repeating each rule to yourself five times while reflecting on what that rules means to you and your willingness to comply with that rule ... ?

Its been ages since I've been to the site where that was posted (and I'm sure its been posted in several other places by this time) ... I do think its a bit extreme. For awhile there a lot of people that I met who were just coming into the lifestyle were completely freaked out because the 128 Slave Rules were presented to them like some kind of initiation manual or Bible ... "You can't be one of US if you don't follow THIS!"

I just personally can't imagine 1) learning and remembering that many rules, 2) complying with some of those rules because some of them just make me go OMG SQUICK NO WAY!, 3) having the balls to actually publish it on the web with my real name (the site I found it on had both their real names) and still attend BDSM functions and stuff ...

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:23:53 AM   
twicehappy


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Status: offline 		I know, you know i have been a slave for many a year and this made me go"WTF?"

I did read the intro and wow! Hell i cannot remember my own social security number, though i do remember my owners preferences quite well without that load of nonsense.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:24:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I read those for the first time just a couple of weeks ago.. I couldn't believe it.  I know that if I had to go by them all.. I would never be a slave... some are just too, too much. 

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:38:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HisTicia

I read those for the first time just a couple of weeks ago.. I couldn't believe it.  I know that if I had to go by them all.. I would never be a slave... some are just too, too much. 


you aren't the only one!  lol

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:51:33 AM   
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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:51:39 AM   
Tikkiee


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Status: offline 		If I am not mistaken, these were written by a Gorean slave for Gorean Slaves. While they may seem a bit harsh to some of us here, they are actually very well thought out.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 6:58:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I ran across those once while doing research on the net. Some of them do seem a bit harsh yes.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 7:01:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

If I am not mistaken, these were written by a Gorean slave for Gorean Slaves. While they may seem a bit harsh to some of us here, they are actually very well thought out.


John and Elizabeth (the original writers, if I remember correctly) were not Gorean ... They were simply Master and slave.

Besides, I can't see Gorean Masters (who supposedly love things which are beautful and natural and delight in women being feminine, not gross) having their girls clean up human waste or  menstrual blood by ingesting it ... Thats just me though. There's nothing sayign that a Gorean Master wouldn't have that as his kink either ... I just cant personally see it.

  1. If I am required to be my Master's toilet, into or onto which He chooses to release the watery juices of His cock, I shall position myself to receive His personal waters by kneeling for Him, tilting my head back, opening my cunt wide, and closing my eyes so that He will delight in the display and offering of my body and of one of my orifices for Him choose upon which one to use. I shall remain still as He releases Himself, swallowing what I can of the waters He allows me. I shall play with myself during the release, as is instructed by Him, so that I am permitted to sexualize the experience as much as possible for His pleasure, thanking Him afterwards for allowing me the opportunity to honor Him in this most private way.
  2. I will not wear a pad or tampon when I am on my period without His permission - my pussy must be available for His use at all times. Should I be allowed to use a pad or tampon - it must be removed in His presence should He require my vagina to be emptied - regardless of where I am and who may be present. The use of a pad or tampon is a privilege that can be taken away from me at any time. If so, I can only hope I will be allowed to bleed for His pleasure and to feel my blood trickling down my legs or to strain to hear it drip onto the floor or onto another female slave he has selected to punish with my blood.


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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 7:31:09 AM   
Anarrus


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Status: offline 		These have been around a long time. I think they were written as a general guideline and for the most part it seems much thought was given in writing them.

I know of no one or any household in which all 128 are followed completely. Suffice it to say they are an eye opener for anyone considering a M/s relationship and perhaps in some instances the shock value contained therein is of value when establishing a relationship. They certainly have value that can be used to begin an open and honest dialogue between Master and slave.

Perhaps they were intended as a wake up call to some who want to "play" at being slave and don't fully understand the full and complete depth which that servitude entails should a Master decide to push the envelope.

I borrowed 35 of the rules and edited them to my liking and to what seemed pragmatic for my household. All in all though, I think all the rules can be condensed into one simple rule..... "A slave will obey and be pleasing."

I wish you well

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 8:09:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only rules that matter to me and mine are MY RULES.

Anything else is an attempt to take my authority from me. I personally do not get the appeal to anyone in the owner role for using other people's rules.

I'm going be a bitch now but if you can't come up with your own rules and your own way your household should rule, then you aren't ready to be an owner.

Yes, great minds might come up with very similar things but honestly list of rules like the one cited is for those who are too immature or lazy to learn enough about him/herself to create a good Ms or Ds relationship.

Wow, I'm in a no-pulling-punches mood today, aren't I?

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 8:38:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some of those rules are just disgusting the only rules that matter are the ones you and your Mistress/Master set up. I read those rules on some website one time and wondered just why the hell would anyone even desire to be a slave, sounds more like a robot.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 8:53:24 AM   
amayos


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quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

I just ran across this looking for something else online and my only thought was"WACKO" so i had to come back and share, read these 128 rules for a slave and let's hear the commentary please.

Some of them(a few) are actually well thought out, but some of them . . .



An amusing, if not needlessly long-winded list.

Ultimately this text can be truncated into the following: I exist to love and obey my Master.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 8:54:10 AM   
MistressMelissa


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Status: offline 		The origin of this is found at http://www.bestslavetraining.com/128bsrules.htm

This site was originally a roleplay site on VP (vitual places) and has grown, expanded over the years.

Personally I find this many rules to be cumbersome. I like to keep it simple.

Melissa
Mistress of Ds Haven
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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:04:44 AM   
HarryVanWinkle


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Didn't we just do this a couple of weeks or so ago?

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:26:56 AM   
Midearthtrainer


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Status: offline 		Here is the origional site
http://members.aol.com/dsdiary/128slaverules.html
Notice the date it was written:
(By Johnathan Kay, also known as Master John; copyright 1992 -1998.)

Here is what someone has done with the above list
members.aol.com/dsdiary/rules.html

Here is a quick oversight of some Gorean rules:
www.boskandtarn.com/slaverules.html

Whether all of those 128 rules fit a particular House or just one; those rules are points to ponder. It is, whatever fits into the everyday lifestyle that is important. The use of rules and rituals are to reenforce those traits that are found to be desireous to the Master/Mistress.

What it all boils down to is - How dedicated are you to pleasing/serving your Master/Mistress in every way, every time, every place?

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:27:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

The only rules that matter to me and mine are MY RULES.
    ......That is as it should be!  A

Anything else is an attempt to take my authority from me. I personally do not get the appeal to anyone in the owner role for using other people's rules.

......I doubt if any owner arbitarily would let anyone dictate to them rules for their personal slave or household. A

I'm going be a bitch now but if you can't come up with your own rules and your own way your household should rule, then you aren't ready to be an owner.

....I agree. Each owner needs to know themselves well enough to set rules based on their personal preference. That's a given.
 ..and I disagree. If someone has a good or great idea or way of doing something that I think fits my style and would be usefull for me, I will not let my ego get in the way of using it simply because it I didn't think of it. That's simply dumb. A

Yes, great minds might come up with very similar things but honestly list of rules like the one cited is for those who are too immature or lazy to learn enough about him/herself to create a good Ms or Ds relationship.
...the only way a truly good M/s D/s relationship is created is for both to know themselves and continue to learn about each other and communicate based on that knowledge. Simply put.. it takes lotsa work, as in any relationship whether kink or vanilla. A

Wow, I'm in a no-pulling-punches mood today, aren't I?
..I think most welcome a good verbal sparing match now then. It keeps the mind sharpened. A


I wish you well
 
A

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:37:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: amayos

An amusing, if not needlessly long-winded list.

Ultimately this text can be truncated into the following: I exist to love and obey my Master.


I agree that list of rules such as this can be shorten down to the one rule such as the one you or similar ideals.  However, I don think this list is neccessarily amusing or needlessly long winded.  For many the the simple rule to follow all rules is by nature to simple.  I think Anarrus has stated it well when he said

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know of no one or any household in which all 128 are followed completely. Suffice it to say they are an eye opener for anyone considering a M/s relationship and perhaps in some instances the shock value contained therein is of value when establishing a relationship. They certainly have value that can be used to begin an open and honest dialogue between Master and slave.


it so simple and easy to speak that simple one rule.. but does the slave know when they agreed to obey my will... it meant they will do
this or this or this or this or this.   I remember talking to kyra way back when talking about the SM.  She was new and had no conception of what I was capable of.  She could only take the intangible visions of her thoughts and gain from the pictures and words she read from others.  I instructed her to go to the play party and imagine every single thing she saw was being done to her would be done by me.  I also told her with out doubt that what she saw would be less intense than experiencing it from me.  When she came to see me that first time... I brought her in the dungeon and teased her with alittle of this and a little of that.  She then watch me play alandra.... nothing she saw or even imagined could compare to her actually seeing what she saw and the feelings that occurred.  I taught her in moment that I could if I want, I could easily push her well beyond what she could do that she will never beable to imagine everything of what it is she could be told to do.  List like these are great to open the slave's mind to possibilities... but they are just possiblities and no list is ever going to be complete.  That simple rule that is inclusive is alot more complex and conveys much more than just obey.

For those that find the list long and difficult to remember.  Simply ... it's difficult to remember because they are not your rules.  They don't apply to you.   We all have a pet peeves and preferences.  I asked alandra to give me a list of my pet peeves... she came back with two pages in a rather short time.  At my work, I have rules that fill a couple large binders, and these are just the Specific procedurely rules... doesn't even include the countless policies and notices.  We remember the rules because they have meaning to us and are applicable to our situation and life.  We know alot of rules to drive a car for example.  I believe that if you sat down and considered your own work and personal relationships, you would come up with a tremendous number of rules that you need to follow in various situations you encounter. 

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:54:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never understood Gor fully.  Yet, I'm not about to sit here and make fun of what they believe in.  SOME  of the rules here are...different but not too far fetched in my mind because they give you the less "romantic" view some seem to have in reference to slavery.   I am very much a realist and can not base my day to day life on fiction. That is what I don't understand.  How can you do that? 

I do not feel there is anything wrong with a list of rules for a group.  You read the rules, learn their ways,  and if you want to join or be apart of it, you follow them.  If what you uncover does not appeal to you, you do not follow and find something that does.

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RE: 128 rules of slavery? - 6/17/2006 9:57:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chuckles, who would want to be the dominant having to remember all the rules? 

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