TwoHeartsBeatOne
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Hi Roch,
I was in San Francisco in 1979, when the gay community was just beginning to raise their voices about this strange new illness that was killing so many. People were having a lot of conversations about sex and safety.
I was there with a touring stage show and many of the actors were gay. It was from them, that I first heard of "red wine enemas." It was a common practice.
One gay friend explained that it worked very quickly and took very little wine. He covered the danger of using too much and of using anything other than red wine. There's something about red wine, specifically, that doesn't mess with intestinal flora balance, he said.
Another benefit is that red wine has a relatively low alcohol content, and when introduced through the bowels, it is intensified. Very little (1/4 of a wine glass is good for the first time - fill the rest of the enema bag with room temperature distilled water - or boil it first and let it cool down completely).
My gay friend made a point of emphasizing the need to ALWAYS begin with no more than 1/4 a glass of red wine for the first time. He said there is no way for the "giver" or "receiver" to know ahead of time what the effect will be on that individual. Also, it is imperative that the "receiver" be honest about any drugs that are already in their system and about allergies.
He also warned that many people really love it and it can become a problem, physically, if done more than twice per month. Long-time participants NEVER use more than a full glass of red wine diluted by water.
He wasn't a doctor: nor am I. This post is anecdotal only and is not meant to be anything other than me passing on a bit of what I've been told.
The psychology is very much about power exchange. As others here have said, this kink is about control. It's a high risk one, in terms of what can happen along the learning curve (how much to use, how often...).
Also, it's about lowering the ability to make a choice. Even if both parties agree to activities beforehand, it can't be denied that the "receiver" enters a state of "iffy" competence, so the ability to change their mind (use a safe word) is compromised. That means there's a potential for criminal charges against the "giver."
IMO, "the high risk, low return," nature of this particular kink, makes it an unpopular activity. Of course, that's easy for me to say - it's not my kink.
< Message edited by TwoHeartsBeatOne -- 12/10/2012 11:15:08 AM >
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