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jlf1961 -> RE: Newton Conn.'s incredible burden. (12/17/2012 12:03:25 PM)
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Whether or not you mean to sound callous...I am going to be honest with you Jeff,to my ears you do in fact sound callous.
It seems very important to you to point out as often as possible,in whatever threads you can find, other methods of mayhem,Oklahoma being the most prominent and oft mentioned occurrence .
The whole point of course,IMO ,is your fear of what this episode will mean vis a vis your guns.
I don't wish to rehash that,or to turn this particular thread into a gun discussion.I feel events have bypassed our concerns anyway.
The nation has reached a tipping point and things are moving ,I do not feel this tide can be altered at this point,certainly not by anything said here.
But I do wonder whether or not you are able to internally accept the fact that these particular children did not die from an explosive device,they did not die from knife wounds....they died from bullets fired from a semi-automatic weapon,a Bushmaster-223 to be exact.
Constantly inserting that there are other means of violence will not change that,nor alter the clamor for meaningful legislation.
I accept the fact the children did indeed die of a firearm.
And whatever the law of the land becomes I will abide by it.
The only point I am trying to make is that if someone wants to kill a lot of people they are going to do it.
Yeah, I am worried about a bomb, for more reasons that just the lone gunman problem. I happen to read the reports put out by Homeland Security on soft target vulnerability. Schools being the number one on the list.
Kids as young as six have been caught with guns in school, form .22's to 44 magnums, semi auto pistols and revolvers. It scares the living shit out of me. You see, while my kids are grown, I have grandkids going to public schools, I have great nieces and nephews going to public schools.
While the lone gunman with any kind of weapon and lots of ammo concerns me, I am more worried about the incidents that dont make national news, just because the body count isnt high enough, the incident where a kid takes daddy's or mommy's pistol to school to deal with a bully and not only shoots the bully in question but a couple of other kids.
I learned to shoot when I was six. I taught my son when he was seven. I have never owned a glass fronted gun case in my life, it has always been either a double key safe or now a key and combination key pad. I grew up in the country where my biggest worry was a rattlesnake in the hay in the barn, so mom and dad had me carry a 22 when I went to put hay out. Because I was more aware of gun involved accidents, when my son was old enough to feed stock, i helped him and I carried the gun.
Since I have grown older, I have changed. My grandson turned 8 and my son asked me if I was going to teach him to shoot, my answer was not till he is 13.
I am a combat vet, I have seen what guns can do. I have also seen what kids do to kids with guns.
If it was up to me there would be metal detectors at every school, public and private, mall, sports venue, concert venue, night club, and bar. I would fence every public park in the country and put metal detectors at the entrances. I would take a third of the money we spend on defense in this country and do everything humanly and insanely over the top method to protect our children.
You complain about modern military style civilian rifles, I complain about the simple fact that no matter what the gun is, no one in this fucking country is willing to spend a fucking dime on preventing them from getting into the schools in the first fucking place.
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