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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/17/2006 9:24:22 PM

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It takes a tremendous effort to own another human being. It takes work. It is in that context I ask all of you.. Do you think that there is any truth your possessions (in this case a submissive) own you?

Not if there is love involved.

For me, the essence of love itself is in giving the other person the freedom to be who they are- even if that means NOT being with you. If the other person does not have that freedom, then I do not believe "love" as I believe love to be, exists.

So, if love is part of the relationship, actual possession would be antithetical to the situation, no matter what dynamic it was.

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/17/2006 10:38:24 PM

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I believe in every good relationship, each does own the strongest love of the other. In that respect, yes, as a submissive I have owned both of my dominants just as much as they've owned me. I feel owned when my greatest desire is to please him and be pleasing to him, and truthfully, I know my dominants have felt this way too, we just react differently to the feeling is all.

**Until a couple has children, of course, then the greatest love they each will have is for their children. IMO anyhow, all the good parents I know tell me that no matter how much love I have felt for anyone, it won't be as much as I will one day feel toward my children. For now, I can only imagine I will agree

Edited: Very of topic, but look what my 'in reply to' says, meanwhile I posted directly under LA and did not quote Emperor1956. This happens to me often, is it just me or this is one of the mysteries of the board?

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/17/2006 10:42:14 PM

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As a mother I can categorically say that the love we feel for our kids is different from the love we feel for others. I am someone that does not measure love like this. I have never loved two people the same exact way. I love my mother every bit as much as I love my son, but I love each differently. But then again my son is almost 16, so perhaps his teenager angst has clouded things (that is a joke btw).

My mom and dad loved each other as much as they loved us... they had four of us after all..smiles. I speak in past tense because my mom and dad were married until he passed away.. and would probably still be married if he had lived.

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/17/2006 10:54:39 PM

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In Soviet Russia, things own you!

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/17/2006 11:41:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

As a mother I can categorically say that the love we feel for our kids is different from the love we feel for others. I am someone that does not measure love like this. I have never loved two people the same exact way. I love my mother every bit as much as I love my son, but I love each differently. But then again my son is almost 16, so perhaps his teenager angst has clouded things (that is a joke btw).

Lol, Very cute

My mom and dad loved each other as much as they loved us... they had four of us after all..smiles. I speak in past tense because my mom and dad were married until he passed away.. and would probably still be married if he had lived.

That was very sweet as well. Makes sense too, I've always heard it as the love feeling different in a way that the parents felt was 'deeper' or 'stronger' than their love for their spouses or anyone else, but your definition sounds very sensible as well. Time will tell for me personally, no babies planned for a while and doing all I can to prevent a surprise lol

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/18/2006 12:00:56 AM

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BTW our parents are every bit as cute as our kids as they age...smiles.

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/18/2006 4:25:53 AM

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I know what you mean, julia. I've often thought that certain of my things own me as much as I do them. Kids, definitely...dogs, even more so.

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/18/2006 6:23:10 AM

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I think it is the word "own" and its connotations in our context of owning being an act of dominance and being owned, one of submission.

Having possessions creates responsibility. The more possessions, the more responsibilities I have and being responsible takes time. I am not owned by my car, but if I don't take care of it, it will become junk. I have to spend time making sure it has oil, its innards are in tune, I don't leave the windows down in the rain, etc. all of which take time.

Ah... but does it create responsibility? And the answer is, no, it doesn't.

You're right, if you buy a car and don't take care of it it will become junk. The responsibility only comes into being if you want to keep the car in good condition. If you decide you don't care if it sits there and rusts, or if you decide to sell it, give it away, or what have you, you no longer have any responsibility to it.

Hence, you own it, it doesn't own you.

As I tried get across previously. Possession only begin to own their owner when the owner allows ownership to become an obsession. Or a little more simply... if someone becomes obessessed with having things for the sake of having things, then yes, those things are controlling that person (actually its their obsession that controls them, not the things themselves).

What this means for owning slaves is simply this. You own them, you take care of them because you want to keep them and keep them in good working order (so that they can continue to serve and please you). But you don't obsess over owning them, if the time comes you need to release them, you are fully able to do so. You want them, but you don't need them.

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RE: The Things We Own.... - 6/18/2006 9:00:48 AM

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I know what you mean, julia. I've often thought that certain of my things own me as much as I do them. Kids, definitely...dogs, even more so.

People and animals have alwys owned me more than posssessions..smiles

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