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SimplyMichael -> Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 8:04:50 AM)

The death rate for young black men is staggering but few here give a rat's ass.

Oh my god 20 white kids die, amend the United States Constitution!





slvemike4u -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 8:12:54 AM)

To the question posed(the rest of it is just projection)



Apparently not you(you asked,I answered)




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 8:17:23 AM)

Nearly two black kids a day die...nobody says shit.

As for me, i run an inner city community garden and do other outreach to public schools, how about you?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:43:28 AM)

During the 80's when the drug wars were at their height. A black male growing up in the liberty city section of miami had a statistically better chance of being shot before age 18 than a soldier sent for a 1 year tour in Viet Nam.

When I saw that, I thought they were fucking crazy until I actually saw the numbers posted in the Herald.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:50:43 AM)

Its mostly inner city kids shooting inner city people, but they are black so nobody gives a shit.




LizDeluxe -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:54:34 AM)

According to the CDC the leading cause of death among black men aged 15-34 is black men. It's sad and unfortunate but that's going to be a tough sell to society in general to get involved. Sounds like an excellent opportunity to mobilize the black community to try to amend what is happening in their own back yards. Since you appear to be somewhat in the loop is there anything happening on that front?

The CDC also reports that AIDS is much higher among black men and women. They suggest that this is because black men become infected in prison and then infect their partners upon release. I was not aware of that.

Read more about it here.





Hillwilliam -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:56:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Its mostly inner city kids shooting inner city people, but they are black so nobody gives a shit.

You give a shit when you have to work in that inner city and you're ummmmmmmmmmmm let's say "Conspicuous".
Only place I ever felt the need to travel armed.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:57:50 AM)

White people's drugs are either being legaled or like cocaine have low penslties.

Crack will get you life.

Its a combination of poverty and the shitty cultural meme that Bill Cosby spokebout about.




LizDeluxe -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:59:25 AM)

By the way... no, I don't give a shit. As long as they are busy shooting each other they don't have time to kick my door down again and rob me.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 9:59:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

White people's drugs are either being legaled or like cocaine have low penslties.

Crack will get you life.

Its a combination of poverty and the shitty cultural meme that Bill Cosby spokebout about.


What has the drugs of choice and their penalties to do with who is killing who?




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:02:52 AM)

Its the cycle of prison, drug violence, and the interwoven poverty.




slvemike4u -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:03:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Nearly two black kids a day die...nobody says shit.

As for me, i run an inner city community garden and do other outreach to public schools, how about you?

What has any of that to do with whether or not I give a shit.
You are the one who came here and tried to make this about black and white,you did so in response to the outrage over 20 young children shot in their school.
You seem to think the fact that they happened to be,for the most part,white is germane to the conversation.
It is not.
They were 6 and 7...they were completely innocent.
That is all that fucking matters.


The rest of it is nothing more than your attempt to deflect the conversation and I will not,in any way shape or form,allow you to do so...certainly I will not aid you in this pathetic tact.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:09:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Its the cycle of prison, drug violence, and the interwoven poverty.


People generally don't go to prison because they're innocent as the driven snow. If you don't commit crimes, there's an awesome chance you'll never go to prison except as an employee or visitor.

People who go to prison for selling poison to children or shooting other children to protect their 'turf' fucking deserve it.

Don't do stupid shit and you won't go to prison.




SeekingTrinity -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:11:43 AM)

I think you raise a really good point, Michael. I too work with a marginalized segment of society, though my work is with injection drug users compared to your work with inner city people. But I think that there are a lot of parallels because the marginalized are often viewed as disposable. Its so sad that it takes a tragedy like Sandy Hook to get us talking about something that we should have been talking about all along. The CDC lists homicide as the leading cause of death among black youths in this country, while all other classifications of youths list accident as the leading cause of death.

Yes Mike, the children who died at Sandy Hook were all 6-7 years old. But the loss of a child, whether they were 6 years old or 15 years old, IS STILL THE LOSS OF A CHILD DUE TO GUN VIOLENCE. You think that it hurts a black mother less than one of the mother's from Sandy Hook when her child gets murdered?




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:17:10 AM)

Gun laws stop suburban white people. Illegal drug dealers are fine with illegal guns.




tj444 -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:23:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
The death rate for young black men is staggering but few here give a rat's ass.

How do you propose that change in a real way? I dont think its a matter of no one giving a rat's ass, I think its a case of the problem just being so huge its beyond truly fixing..

I believe over half the population in Houston is black, you can see geographically how different each area is, the rich are mostly white (& they live in certain areas), the poor & extremely poor mostly black live in the rest of the city.. that means half the city is poor & crime ridden.. you can see the recent local crime in each area by looking it up online.. (minor, burglary, violent).. how exactly do you fix that?

Personally i find that depressing and scary.. there is an American (former politician) who has been saying that in 20 years the US will basically be a third world country.. while that sounds an extreme change, even to me, when I look at this city, I see how it is possible that the US spiral down to that..




jlf1961 -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:23:43 AM)

illegally held guns in the inner cities and 30000 a year dead cause of gang violence is not important




Hillwilliam -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:30:14 AM)

A person who is outside a community cannot 'fix' that community.
I can't solve the problems of the next town over. Only those people can. They can't fix the problems in my town. Only I and my neighbors can.
re: the inner city minority communities, it seems like every time someone stands up and says "people, let's take responsibility for our own actions, let's encourage our children to stay in school, let's be parents instead of fellow gangstas." they get shouted down by the usual 2 suspects from NYC and Chicago.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:32:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

illegally held guns in the inner cities and 30000 a year dead cause of gang violence is not important


Your right, lets ban drugs, that would be a great first step!




jlf1961 -> RE: Dead black kids...who cares (12/19/2012 10:33:36 AM)

Actually the movies "Escape from New York" and "Escape from LA" gives me a couple of ideas




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