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Fightdirecto -> "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 12:43:41 PM)

The Jewish Grinch Who Stole Christmas

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I never thought I’d live to see the day that Christmas would become a dirty word. You think it hasn’t? Then why is it that people are being prevented from saying it in polite society for fear that it will offend?

Why, after 60 years, is the city of Santa Monica, Calif., no longer allowed to erect its traditional crèche in the palisades overlooking the Pacific Ocean, and why is the governor of Rhode Island insisting on calling the state’s Christmas tree a holiday tree?

Schools are being forced to replace “Christmas vacation” with “winter break” in their printed schedules. At some major retail chains, the word is verboten, replaced as a matter of policy by the generic Happy Holidays. Carols, even instrumental versions, are verboten in certain locales. All across the country, grammar schools are banning Christmas pageants.

How is it, one well might ask, that in a Christian nation this is happening?...

I lay a great deal of the blame at the feet of my fellow Jews. When it comes to pushing the multicultural, anti-Christian agenda, you find Jewish judges, Jewish journalists and the largely Jewish funded ACLU at the forefront. What makes them even more obnoxious is that, by and large, the Jews who are leading the crusade against what is, we should never forget, a national holiday, are secular. So it’s not even a question of their religion being shortchanged; they hate their own, as well. They’re the pinheads who pretend that “separation of church and state” appears in the Constitution....

...the dirty little secret in America is that in spite of the occasional over-publicized rants by the likes of Mel Gibson and Michael Richards, anti-Semitism is no longer a problem in society; it’s been replaced by a rampant anti-Christianity...

It is the ACLU, which is largely funded by Jews and has a legal department that is almost exclusively Jewish, that is leading the attack against Christianity in America. It is they who have conned far too many people into believing that when the First Amendment states that Congress is prohibited from establishing a state religion, what it really means is that a Christmas wreath can’t be placed on City Hall. They also cynically ignore the part that prohibits Congress from “abridging the free exercise” of religion.

I am getting the idea that these self-righteous secular Jews won’t be happy until they pull off their own version of the Spanish Inquisition, forcing Christians to either deny their faith and convert to agnosticism or suffer the consequences…

This is a Christian nation, my friends. And all of us are fortunate it is one, and that so many millions of Americans have seen fit to live up to the highest precepts of their religion. It should never be forgotten that, in the main, it was Christian soldiers who fought and died to defeat Nazi Germany and who liberated the concentration camps.

Speaking as a member of a minority group – and one of the smaller ones at that – I say it behooves those of us who don’t accept Jesus Christ as our savior to show some gratitude to those who do, and to start respecting the values and traditions of the overwhelming majority of our fellow citizens, just as we keep insisting that they respect ours.

And here I thought the bogus "War On Christmas" was a creation of Fox - News and paranoid Evangelical Fundamentalist Protestants.

Shows how much I know - it's those damn Jews!




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 12:58:08 PM)

Sadly, this looks suspiciously like a right leaning tantrum. It's news to me that the separation of church and state isn't in the constitution, put it that way.




jlf1961 -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:08:43 PM)

Actually it is the non god believing democrats on the left that are against Christmas.

That reminds me, I need to get ahold of another democrat catholic about going to midnight mass




crazyml -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:10:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Actually it is the non god believing democrats on the left that are against Christmas.

That reminds me, I need to get ahold of another democrat catholic about going to midnight mass


Gibber gibber
blather blather





Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:12:31 PM)

Maybe it's the religious right fundies who are against Christmas? Several of these sects disdain most of the stuff that Christmas is meant to be there for, after all: Mormons and Jovos are notorious for that, and Methodists aren't that far behind...




tingdatt -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:18:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Sadly, this looks suspiciously like a right leaning tantrum. It's news to me that the separation of church and state isn't in the constitution, put it that way.

You mean this separation of church and state?

[image]local://upfiles/1532906/838D4D17D60349B4AEAB6F26B2299D91.jpg[/image]




imin2bdsm -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:23:21 PM)

Technically the words 'separation of church and state' DO NOT appear in the Constitution. A lot of phrases that are part of law do not appear there. Like 'right of privacy' or 'right to a fair trial' but we still hold these things as part of the essence of the Constitution. To nit pick one leaves all open to risk.

Despite holding a dominant place in our culture and society, Christians as a group continue to feel oppressed, persecuted and put upon by government and society in general. I suppose it is a hold over from the early Church when it was persecuted in the Roman Empire.


edited to add a link

http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/phrase.htm




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:26:08 PM)

Not quite what I had in mind, I'm afraid, but a nice picture.
(Unless you're Andrew MacDonald, of course...)




jlf1961 -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:29:20 PM)

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My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, “Merry Christmas” to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a crib, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her: “How could God let something like this happen?” (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said: “I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?”

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbour as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.

If not, then just discard it.... no one will know you did. But if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:29:21 PM)

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
(Technically the Bill of Rights, rather than the Constitution, but still down there in writing since 1791.)




tingdatt -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:30:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Not quite what I had in mind, I'm afraid, but a nice picture.
(Unless you're Andrew MacDonald, of course...)

then admit it. christians are the only religious group it's "politically correct" to attack. same with white males. the liberal mindset demonizes the successful and permanently views them as oppressors, regardless of the reality. no different than the communists.

this is why christians always feel under attack. because they're the only group it's okay to openly insult or shut down.




meatcleaver -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:30:45 PM)

All three Abramic faiths are the problem with the world and Christianity if the problem with Christmas. The mid-winter festival was originally a glorious pagan festival celebrating the winter solstice in northern Europe when many of the beasts that couldn't be kept alive through winter were slaughtered. Thankfully, the feasting is more important than the religion in modern Christmas festival. All that is left is to change its name.




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:35:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tingdatt
this is why christians always feel under attack. because they're the only group it's okay to openly insult or shut down.

Tell that to the Muslims.




Lucylastic -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:37:40 PM)

Cry me a fucking river, goood god, what UTTER BULLSHIT
you just demonized the fucking left and you want to be taken seriously
The Muslims are demonized, the Jews are demonized, Atheists are demonized, Tamils are demomized, Buhhdists are demonized, Christians are demonized. YOU AARENT ALONE!
EVERY religion or NON is demonized by someone.
White Christians just dont have it all their own way anymore, and speaking as an EX white christian, Its about bloody time( Im still white)




jlf1961 -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:41:44 PM)

I am demonized because I am a democrat, Catholic, a gun owner, a prepper, and I am ugly.

Gee looking at that I have all the justification to declare war on society.




tingdatt -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:43:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
White Christians just dont have it all their own way anymore, and speaking as an EX white christian, Its about bloody time( Im still white)


you're proving my point. you justify your attacks on them by pointing out their previous dominance. and refer to my picture earlier, people only seem to make a big deal about separation of church and state for silly things(holiday displays) when it pertains to Christians.




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:44:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tingdatt
...people only seem to make a big deal about separation of church and state for silly things(holiday displays) when it pertains to Christians.

Got any evidence for that?




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:47:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I am demonized because I am a democrat, Catholic, a gun owner, a prepper, and I am ugly.

Gee looking at that I have all the justification to declare war on society.

I have just the book you need:
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Turnerdiariescover.jpg/200px-Turnerdiariescover.jpg[/img]
(Mind you, if you're a liberal the organisation wouldn't want anything to do with you, would they?)




tingdatt -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:48:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: tingdatt
...people only seem to make a big deal about separation of church and state for silly things(holiday displays) when it pertains to Christians.

Got any evidence for that?

look at the previous picture. nativity scenes are regularly banned from public spaces because of their religious nature, but a menorah on the white house lawn is okay?




Moonhead -> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" (12/19/2012 1:50:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tingdatt


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: tingdatt
...people only seem to make a big deal about separation of church and state for silly things(holiday displays) when it pertains to Christians.

Got any evidence for that?

look at the previous picture. nativity scenes are regularly banned from public spaces because of their religious nature, but a menorah on the white house lawn is okay?

That's a "no", then. Thought so.




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