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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 4:53:38 AM   
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It would be easier to have a discussion on how certain people who shouldn't have fireams could be screened for at time of purchase if some people (coughcoughcouopcoughcough) didn't throw all these red herrings into the mix. The imaginary license to buy a vehicle is a false equivalency.

So, treat gun ownership and public carry of guns as 2 distinct cases, and logically evaluate how much and what sort of training and evaluation would offer a rational chance of reducing tragic incidents.


Isn't it popular in some circles to treat the two as a single case, and any kind of screening or regulation as the thin end of a wedge that's inevitably going to lead to a complete firearms ban and the repeal of the second amendment, though?

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:13:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, I am not using the driver's license as a comparison except that a car is, when operated correctly, less dangerous than a gun, and you need a license for a car. Why not a gun?

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:28:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wasn't talking about you, effendi: you're the very model of a responsible gun owner, as you've demonstrated time and again on these boards.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:49:49 AM   
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I wasn't talking about you, effendi: you're the very model of a responsible gun owner, as you've demonstrated time and again on these boards.



You are of course referring to someone that used to own a full sized working replica of a civil war cannon.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 7:17:49 AM   
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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 8:52:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is no US state that requires an automobile owners license just to buy a car. Operators/drivers licenses have nothing to do with purchasing one.

Why do you keep bringing up that patently incorrect assertion, and refuse to discuss the actual issue of how to screen out problematic gun owners?



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Actually, I am not using the driver's license as a comparison except that a car is, when operated correctly, less dangerous than a gun, and you need a license for a car. Why not a gun?



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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 8:55:30 AM   
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Does that mean that no one should try to discuss this specific issue more rationally?
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

It would be easier to have a discussion on how certain people who shouldn't have fireams could be screened for at time of purchase if some people (coughcoughcouopcoughcough) didn't throw all these red herrings into the mix. The imaginary license to buy a vehicle is a false equivalency.

So, treat gun ownership and public carry of guns as 2 distinct cases, and logically evaluate how much and what sort of training and evaluation would offer a rational chance of reducing tragic incidents.


Isn't it popular in some circles to treat the two as a single case, and any kind of screening or regulation as the thin end of a wedge that's inevitably going to lead to a complete firearms ban and the repeal of the second amendment, though?



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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 10:28:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would say both a gun and a car when operated properly are about as dangerous the car perhaps a little more so. but that could be explained away as cars are used far more often so they cause a lot more death and destruction.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 11:30:55 AM   
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New York state requires a vehicle to be insured once its purchased.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 4:53:46 PM   
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Nationally, there were 31,236 firearm deaths in 2009 and 36,361 motor vehicle deaths according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

Alaska: 104 gun deaths, 84 motor vehicle deaths

Arizona: 856 gun deaths, 809 motor vehicle deaths

Colorado: 583 gun deaths, 565 motor vehicle deaths

Indiana: 735 gun deaths, 715 motor vehicle deaths

Michigan: 1,095 gun deaths, 977 motor vehicle deaths

Nevada: 406 gun deaths, 255 motor vehicle deaths

Oregon: 417 gun deaths, 394 motor vehicle deaths

Utah: 260 gun deaths, 256 motor vehicle deaths

Virginia: 836 gun deaths, 827 motor vehicle deaths

Washington: 623 gun deaths, 580 motor vehicle deaths

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 4:54:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		So what you are saying is that guns and cars are just about equal in the danger department?

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 4:59:25 PM   
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Im not saying anything.
I can, but not going to...

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:03:52 PM   
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So what you are saying is that guns and cars are just about equal in the danger department?



I would suggest with the volume of drivers on the road, Tazzy is saying cars are safer.

Thats without stating the obvious about how cars are rarely used as a murder weapon.

I meant Lucy, the similar arses confuse me......LOL

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:10:00 PM   
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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:20:03 PM   
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stop drooling hon:)

can you imagine the state of confusion on the forums if all the wimmin posters put up arse avatars???

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:25:40 PM   
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stop drooling hon:)


Sad when a man cant tell women's asses apart.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:27:26 PM   
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stop drooling hon:)


Sad when a man cant tell women's asses apart.

Must be a sign of creeping senility.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:36:54 PM   
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stop drooling hon:)

can you imagine the state of confusion on the forums if all the wimmin posters put up arse avatars???

yes:)
I do love that wiggling nipple too!
Tazzy I knowwwwwwwww, tsk tsk tsk
Ken I thought that said creepy senility...but PS isnt creepy:)

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:41:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

stop drooling hon:)

can you imagine the state of confusion on the forums if all the wimmin posters put up arse avatars???

yes:)
I do love that wiggling nipple too!
Tazzy I knowwwwwwwww, tsk tsk tsk
Ken I thought that said creepy senility...but PS isnt creepy:)

Didn't mean to imply he was just that for a man not to be able to tell women's asses apart is a sign that the mental faculties are diminishing.

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RE: Did you know? - 12/20/2012 5:51:48 PM   
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