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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 5:35:55 AM   
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There was a similar fuss about Koran Burner Boy being refused entry to Canada, wasn't there?

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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 5:43:42 AM   
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So they pay taxation without getting any representation, then?
Strange how it's only their right to shoot their mouths off that's getting complained about, really.


No, they can actually draw SS.

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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 5:50:20 AM   
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Actually, they did do some, but they did not get that involved until after we started winning battles, then it still took them some time to figure out a way to justify getting overtly involved.


The French did an awful lot to enable the colonists to win their independence, the British surrender at York Town was almost entirely down to the French and their naval defeat of the British. That being said, the British were badly led but the war of Independence was just a backwater skirmish in a larger war which Churchill called the first world war, between the Spanish, French and British empires. The Spanish being utterly defeated, the French retiring hurt and the British winning. The Independence war has been likened to Britain's Vietnam, little support at home for the war, no real strategy and no idea what to do with the place should they have won. Some battles are worth losing, which the independence war was one, the colonies had proved to be a huge drain on British resources, first protecting them from the spanish and then the french had bankrupted Britain which was why Britain thought the colonies should pay for some of its own defence. Britain was better without them and the irony was, colonists had to start paying taxes to Washington that they would never have had to pay to Britain. Though the real reason for wanting independence was the colonies had matured into a nation independent of Britain.

What this has to do with the topic in hand is beyond me however.

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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 6:14:19 AM   
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So they pay taxation without getting any representation, then?
Strange how it's only their right to shoot their mouths off that's getting complained about, really.


No, they can actually draw SS.

I was thinking more of voting: they don't let you do that on a resident alien immigration, even if you are expected to pay taxes.
Bit of a cheek, really.

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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 6:16:59 AM   
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Very true. At least they can take out what they put into the system if they work here long enough.

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RE: Do Legal Visitors to The USA have "Freedom Of ... - 12/28/2012 6:22:52 AM   
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That is something, very true.

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