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Inghammar -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:38:50 AM)

Don't members of every community on the internet say their community in some state of decline? It's like one of those truths nobody argues such as 'local drivers are the worst!'




VideoAdminChi -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:43:15 AM)

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I have had a raft of posts pulled just because I didn't feel the same as others at the time.
Now that just doesn't happen by accident.


You were told by numerous posters in the thread on Friday, Dec 14 that you were posting in the wrong forum and told the correct forum in which to post. You can also review my correspondence with you on this issue.




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:47:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhenLoveBeckons

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in the great CM allie allie in free of 2010 or whenever that was, jeeze, maybe it was 2008 or something, don't remember


2010. That would be the last time I posted here. I think I had a day before I was banned again ;)


WhenLoveBeckons,

Alpha and I have discussed your situation and are aware of who you are. Since it has been such a long time since your bans, we are going to allow you to post on the forums as long as you remain within the Terms of Service.

We welcome you back to the forums.

Theta




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:51:56 AM)

Fast Reply

Please continue with the topic at hand and not make this thread about any particular poster.

Thank you




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:52:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SacredDepravity As we sit here bitching and moaning, there are STILL only 3 comments of input on my breast nailing thread (which I greatly appreciate by the way) . I am sure there have been discussions before, but it is not something that comes up every day and there is A LOT that can and should be discussed on the matter. I'd post another more specialized or advanced thread, but either no one will participate or I would find a hard time keeping a handle on the ranting and raving.

SD


The thing is, the more specialised a question or topic, the fewer people will have anything of use to say about it. Take 100 random collar me kinksters and invite them to discuss spanking, most of them will have tried it, or want to try it, or know something about it. Fewer will have any input on, say, cock and ball torture, by virtue of the fact that it is limited to male subs/bottoms and those who play with them. Fewer still will have much to contribute to a discussion about sewing a person's vagina shut because we're getting into a very specialised and more 'extreme' kink. I read your thread, but I could be of no help to you, I imagine lots of others felt the same. On the other hand, threads on 'basic' subjects like the difference between sub and slave are easier for people will less experience to jump in. Naturally they're going to get more posts.

Then again, if we never bother starting these threads, we're less likely to attract posters that do have advanced knowledge or unusual kinks. So I don't think we should stop trying. We want potential new posters to glance in and see that we're starting threads on all sorts of stuff.

A few people here have said they'd like to see threads about xyz - please start them! I for one would do my best to get some interesting debates and informative subjects moving, it's just that in my comfortable existence I don't have many questions I'm burning to ask.

As a side note, I think that sometimes potentially interesting threads die in lesser used forums. I almost never look in health and safety because there are rarely new threads, so sometimes I will see a thread I would have liked to take part in, but don't bother posting since it's already getting old. I wonder if the health and safety and equipment forums are all that useful - I don't think the small number of threads would clutter the other boards and they'd get a lot more traffic.




poise -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:54:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhenLoveBeckons
The abundance of porn, including the porn that appears in the middle of profiles is intended to
appeal to the lowest common denominator ... the most immature people available.


Your theory is flawed. I am a mature intelligent woman in a monogamous relationship, and I enjoy porn.

To the OP (JeffBC) Do you feel that porn has anything to do with any assumed decline of Collarme?




Aynne88 -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:55:45 AM)



Oops. Sorry Theta. I will.




mnottertail -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:56:41 AM)

And I am mature and the lowest common denominator.




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 8:56:51 AM)

[:D] No problem.

Thank you!




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:01:05 AM)

Please see my prior posts.

Thank you




WhenLoveBeckons -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:14:40 AM)

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Please see my prior posts.


~smile~

It's my fault so many people want to make this topic about me?

Isn't that the way things are supposed to work around here? It certainly has been the way in the past. That's why I get banned, to keep everyone else from looking like clowns who can't keep a civil tongue in their head.

As I said: too much self-confidence, not enough ass-kissing, that's my 'problem' ;)

At any rate, if anyone was actually serious about reversing the "decline of collarme" they'll take my observations to heart and make changes accordingly. I don't expect that will happen, it would interfere too much with the owner's business plan, and I am assuming that regardless of any changes made, the owners remain the same.

Time for me to return to lurking.

Besides, while I've been helping you out here, three people just joined my group this morning, bringing the net total of new members in the last four weeks to 50.

Good luck with the decline, y'all are going to need it.




lizi -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:20:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

The purpose of this thread is to explore a tangent I picked up from the "a thread on moderation" thread. I noted many of the regulars lamenting some sort of decline in collarme. Given that I happen to like this site I thought I'd ask for people's thoughts on this that are NOT related to moderation.

What has changed?
Do you have any thoughts for how to improve things?



I've been here for about 4 years as an active poster, I've seen the boards change over that time. To my observation I've seen things be more lively, or less, with a corresponding range in the variety of topics as well. It seems that there are periods of stagnation overall, I find myself less interested in being here at those times, and don't post as often. As others have pointed out, the liveliness seems to be related to the mix of people who are posting, and it is just a fact of life I believe that things anywhere have an ebb and flow.

I can't say what the current feeling of malaise I have for this place is related to exactly, I realize that is what the thread is about and I'm sorry I can't add more to that topic specifically. I find myself hopping around and reading the topics, but not finding much I wish to comment on. There just seems to be a dearth of (what I consider to be) meaty topics. That could certainly be related to the mix of posters and the types of things they are interested in - where they are on their BDSM journey.

It's like the search for a partner, you look for that personal match that speaks to you- when it's not there you can't muster up much enthusiasm for the relationship. I don't hold the boards responsible for my meh feeling, I figure it must be me and that things aren't matching up currently for fulfillment on my side.




SacredDepravity -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:26:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


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ORIGINAL: SacredDepravity As we sit here bitching and moaning, there are STILL only 3 comments of input on my breast nailing thread (which I greatly appreciate by the way) . I am sure there have been discussions before, but it is not something that comes up every day and there is A LOT that can and should be discussed on the matter. I'd post another more specialized or advanced thread, but either no one will participate or I would find a hard time keeping a handle on the ranting and raving.

SD


The thing is, the more specialised a question or topic, the fewer people will have anything of use to say about it. Take 100 random collar me kinksters and invite them to discuss spanking, most of them will have tried it, or want to try it, or know something about it. Fewer will have any input on, say, cock and ball torture, by virtue of the fact that it is limited to male subs/bottoms and those who play with them. Fewer still will have much to contribute to a discussion about sewing a person's vagina shut because we're getting into a very specialised and more 'extreme' kink. I read your thread, but I could be of no help to you, I imagine lots of others felt the same. On the other hand, threads on 'basic' subjects like the difference between sub and slave are easier for people will less experience to jump in. Naturally they're going to get more posts.

Then again, if we never bother starting these threads, we're less likely to attract posters that do have advanced knowledge or unusual kinks. So I don't think we should stop trying. We want potential new posters to glance in and see that we're starting threads on all sorts of stuff.

A few people here have said they'd like to see threads about xyz - please start them! I for one would do my best to get some interesting debates and informative subjects moving, it's just that in my comfortable existence I don't have many questions I'm burning to ask.

As a side note, I think that sometimes potentially interesting threads die in lesser used forums. I almost never look in health and safety because there are rarely new threads, so sometimes I will see a thread I would have liked to take part in, but don't bother posting since it's already getting old. I wonder if the health and safety and equipment forums are all that useful - I don't think the small number of threads would clutter the other boards and they'd get a lot more traffic.


I totally understand and agree that the more specialized (I was trying like nothing else to stay away from words like advanced or extreme) will not garner as many responses as those more general and basic, but at the same time, I think there is a tendency for those with information to shy away from responding to these types of threads afraid of giving out information to potential morons. I'd just prefer to discuss and let the rest fall where it may. People do come seeking meatier information, but often don't get fed. I think it is an idiot that thinks they can blame information they got off the internet for negative outcomes and I don't know too many people who would defend such a position. This has happened in subject matter such as extreme physical play, internal enslavement, emotional control, etc. In other words, all the stuff that *could* go on for pages and pages. A rare thread of this type will do just that and do so without drama, but rarely. I'd like to see it happen more.

SD




wandersalone -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:26:45 AM)

I confess to not even noticing the ads on here any more and given that this is a website for adults and contains themes of a sexual nature, it seems obvious to sell advertising to adult targetted companies.

Now if this was a religious website preaching that there is only one path amd that everyone who believes otherwise should be culled, than maybe ad's for adult products may not be appropriate given there would be a dearth of mature people there.

I like the idea of including the topics that maybe are less commented upon, such as breast nailing as it can give people who are unaware of this or interested but have never tried, an opportunity to hopefully find someone with some knowledge and experience.




Hillwilliam -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:34:12 AM)

I just log straight into www.collarchat.com and I never even see the ads. Maybe every day or 2, I'll click the link at the upper left to see if there's any cmail and then it's back to this side. The ads don't really exist in my consciousness.
To meet locals, I use FET.




DonJ9069 -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:37:29 AM)

This site has been going down a long time being a FREE site it's open to so many of BOTH genders that are just flat out to scam who ever they can & take them for the ride of their life & yet give them nothing but lies & B/S .
Seems all I see from MOST but not ALL of the women on here is a hand out for money .Lies & bull chit is about all I see on here so sick & tired of it.
But their are that 2 or 3 % that are truely real & searching for something real those I do appreciate .
I do wish their were some changes to weed out the liers & scams before they ever get membership here ,
it would make it so much better for the few of us that are here for something real & be rid of the scams .
Hope everyone had a grand hilliday & have a happy new year comming up ยง




LizDeluxe -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:41:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I just log straight into www.collarchat.com and I never even see the ads.


I do, too. It's been so long since I have logged in on the other side I have forgotten my password. I hope there aren't any gold bordered emails collecting dust in my inbox.




Hillwilliam -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:48:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I just log straight into www.collarchat.com and I never even see the ads.


I do, too. It's been so long since I have logged in on the other side I have forgotten my password. I hope there aren't any gold bordered emails collecting dust in my inbox.

Same password Liz. If you want to go to the other side to check mail, just click that black link "Part of collarme.com" in the upper left of the page.




NuevaVida -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:50:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhenLoveBeckons


C'mon, let's be honest. This site has never been so popular as when the former CM discussion groupies realized I was posting here again.


Wait - are you saying the CM forums are most popular when YOU are posting?? That you alone attract all sorts of people and awesome topics? That's pretty incredible.

I've been here since Feb 2006 (one previous user name before this one). Many of the things people are complaining about in this thread were common complaints by us newer folks back then:

Mob mentality
Cliques
Newbies were picked on
Told to search popular topics (only then, LuckyAlbatross was posting links to past threads on common topics and given a hard time for it)
Moderation
Hesitation to discuss certain topics because they result in getting jumped on
"Nobody on the board agrees with my posts but I get lots of Cmail in agreement"

These aren't new complaints/issues. In the almost 13 years I've been posting here, I think I've received maybe 4 golden letters, only one of which I disagreed with. I've had my own complaints over the years, but I still enjoy it here. I've been disagreed with a LOT on these boards, but I don't seem to receive those hoards of Cmails in agreement that others claim to. Same with other people I know.

Many of the people I see complaining about being moderated are people I personally think are rather abrasive in their comments, and I can't say I'm surprised that they have been moderated.

I've found, over time, when something someone says rubs me wrong and pisses me off, it's because whatever was said has hit a nerve in me about something I need some self-review over.

I miss the old timers because I learned a lot from them - they challenged me, counseled me, picked on me, supported me, and called me on my bullshit. I feel like I kind of "grew up with them" in many ways.

To the comment about being unable to talk about reincarnation, I've been jumped all over the place for talking about spirituality, but I am not shocked by that, because I'm not in a discussion board about spirituality.

As for Fet, I haven't had the issues with Fet that others have listed. I'm subscribed to several groups there, several of which have regular, lively conversations. I do find it interesting that there's a group there to discuss how much people who have left CM don't like CM, to the point of coming here and posting quotes from here to discuss over there. And yet, many of those same people are complaining about Fet, too.

Jeff asked what's the solution - But I think all of this is just natural human behavior. You have a huge group of individuals, with a variety of different preferences. Can't please all the people, after all. And the repeated, same complaints both here and on Fet seem to be evidence of that.




LadyPact -> RE: The decline of collarme (12/28/2012 9:51:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Inghammar
Don't members of every community on the internet say their community in some state of decline? It's like one of those truths nobody argues such as 'local drivers are the worst!'
When you can look back over a five year span and see more accidents being reported, the logical conclusion is that local drivers are getting worse. Same thing here. When a poster see less volume in the number of threads compared to a few years back, that's a decline in volume. I think the thread is revealing several reasons for that.





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