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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 1:23:33 PM   
MRonin


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Status: offline 		I believe that for some it's a matter of wishing to fulfill a fantasy and for others it's simply a preference.  Myself, in the time that I've been in the lifestyle I have only played with/been seriously involved with two truly heterosexual only women.  Every other woman has been bi.  I have never specified that preference nor have I ever accepted or denied anyone simply for being either bi or het.  To me it makes no difference either way.  I think for the most part though if it's something that is being specified in a profile then the person has a genuine preference for what ever reason.

Although I do have to say the most successful relationships I've had have been with bi women.  Something that I have yet to figure out but that's fodder for another post 

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 1:31:24 PM   
lisa1978


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Status: offline 		I echo what most have said here. Men like the fmf or watch ff sex. Also for male dominants having bi submissives probably is helpful in poly situations.

I have also encountered, mostly online, but the fantasy/thought that having a bisexual submissive female that we can pick up women more easily to have threesomes with by HNG who do not get it.

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 2:16:38 PM   
Sab


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Status: offline 		Dom seeking a bisexual partner - Hmmm, again interesting. What I do find, or should say found, was the times when another partner (sexual) was brought into the bedroom it was because she requested another female - I accommodated the request. Yes, I did watch, yes I was turned on by it, but no, I did not have sex with the third person.

Those relationships fell by the way side because the women concerned basically put the blame of how they felt afterward onto me, so be it - but when you have asked about 200 times if that is what she really wants, and they affirm that this is the case, whose fault is it really?

So to turn the question back on its head - is it always the Dom who makes the request?


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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 2:31:57 PM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		It's been my observation that many (not all, not even most...but many)  who "require" bisexual submissives is because they believe the word dominant gives them the right to have anything at all that they wish, because they wish it.  Which isn't precisely true.  Reminds me of a little boy, stamping his foot and crying..."Because I'm the Dom, that's why!"

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 2:57:04 PM   
Chaingang


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Status: offline 		A slave should comply with the wishes of her master.

Most men cannot properly handle one woman, much less two at the same time.

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:02:07 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear IronBear, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
For me, I have no sexual drives or needs for myself so, I would have bisexual or Gay and or Lesbian slaves as to satisfy each other sexually.  Otherwise, I be happy with a Heterosexual.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:16:05 PM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

But that's the point I was trying to make, IB. Just because I'm bisexual doesn't mean I'm automatically going to be attracted to someone my dom/master chooses for me to play with. Sure, I can go through the motions if that's what pleases him but he can't make me be attracted to someone I'm not attracted to.  If we're all attracted to each other then great but it can't be assumed that I will be attracted to the other female simply because I'm bisexual.





We are in agreement here MsIncognito. This is where the "Wooimg" period is so important which, added to our probationary collar period is so important...When some one is proposed as a potential member of HIB, they must first meet with us at an outdoorcoffee setting so we can also take Sasha. If the candidate first oasses Neets scrutiny, they must pass the Sasha test. For as sure as I take my dick out of my pants to piss, if they dont get on with our beloved Malamute who loves almost everyone, they won't last a dog watch in HIB (Pun intended for any navel or ex navel types). Ther same goes with the boys, if they can't pass the Grizzly Test they have one foot on a banana peel and the other on the door step.. Seeing it is possible (not probable but possible) that we could have two or more kajirae in the home especially of one is service only, by having all slaves bisexual, all I am doing is ensuring that there is a greater chance of satisfying the sexual apitites of the many if luck is with us... When you considerthat I have Type 2 dibetes as well as arthritic knees (AM still going to reauthorise for heavy armoured SCA combat at least for the sport and excersise), the former causing erectile dysfunction, I have a greater responsibility to provide for the sexual needs of females in my home.. Thus any male slave best be geared well and have a large amount of stamina for my experience with slaves (females) has shown me that one kajira could exhaust several males before breakfast on a daily basis... Lusty  lot them thar kajirae be..........

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:18:02 PM   
xxmstrchasxx


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I slept between , under or on top of my wife and ger bi, subby girlfriend.. Like all good things it stops being a thrill after a while


Yeah, poor guy, someone had to do it :)

My sub and I in 8 years have had two bi sexual female subs to play with and it was a turn on.  Of course, they were friends to start with before they did anything together.  Just so happens we are going to have a 3rd bi female within the next couple of weeks, also a long time friend.

Kind of reminds me of the joke where the man says to his 40 year old wife, "I'm going to trade you in for two twenty year olds".  The wife laughs and says, "honey, you're not wired for 220".

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:21:42 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		Or trhe retired guy who at 60 left his 60 year old wife for a 20 year old. When questioned later about this, his ex looked at her new 20 year old toy boy and commented complacently "Its just maths.. 20 goes into 60 more than 60 goes into 20."

However that is another thread.


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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:41:50 PM   
PlayfulOne


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Status: offline 		We are poly and my little one is bi so when we are seeking someone to interact with us I generally do not spend any time speaking with those who are not bisexual.  That does apply for male submissives as well as female.  I have never searched only for those who are bisexual but I will say that the relationships I have had when my partner was bisexual always  worked better.

Why do others search for only bisexuals, I do not know you would have to ask them.  Why do some look for blondes or those who wish to be hanged by their toes from the ceiling fan?  Better yet, why do so many seem to care?

K

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 3:44:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

A slave should comply with the wishes of her master.

Most men cannot properly handle one woman, much less two at the same time.


*chuckle*

My slave and my husband, that equals two men by the way, often say it takes a lot of them to keep up with me and that they realize sometimes they fail. I know they would both happily welcome one or two more people but only if we all fit well together as a family.

Or to quote my men again "When TammyJo ain't happy, ain't nobody happy".

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 4:18:30 PM   
cheshireboy


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Status: offline 		i have thought on this a while, and some of it could come down to another type of owning the submissive/slave.  what better way than to show control than to have them do something that they normally wouldn't do?  what better way than to test their submissive natural than to see how far they would go for the One that owns them?  it all comes down to how much the submissive is willing to be controlled, and how much the submissive is willing to give up all of themselves.  there are other ways besides the straight up bisexual for a straight male's sexuality to be owned........all comes down to the mental aspects and how they play out physically.

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 4:34:56 PM   
meatcleaver


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Status: offline 		Simply because as a fantasy it is damn hot watching two women getting off on each other. A couple of years ago I was in such a triangle, it wasn't planned, things just sort of fell into place and it was damn hot. I don't think I could have planned it even if I wanted to and if I thought I could I would try it again. It was the women that initiated the threesome, I wish I could say it was my powers of seduction.

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 5:18:44 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		I have 2 ideas.

1.  Beats having to 'train' her to be with another woman later on; why not get one who's willing from the get go if you know you'll want that as an option later.

2.  Too lazy to make her wanna be with another woman simply to please you, so a girl who's already bi is their only choice

I was teasing with the 2nd idea, I believe it's 1

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 5:42:27 PM   
Chaingang


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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo
My slave and my husband, that equals two men by the way, often say it takes a lot of them to keep up with me and that they realize sometimes they fail.


Maybe you are too busy crowing about how great you are to realize the problem is you and not them? Just a thought...

No one can give you what you can't give to yourself.

My point is that people usually can't get it together even one on one, then they think that increasing the number of participants improves things somehow when all they are really doing is increasing the opportunities for problems to arise. One person can be quite happy even alone. Two is all it takes to truly complete the circuit. Get that part right and maybe you can move onto more.

Frankly, I think threesomes are overrated. It's not that they aren't enjoyable, they are. It's that overweening desire is a dangerous thing.

At some point you have to be satisfied or you just aren't the kind of person that can be satisfied by anything or anyone.


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RE: Why Do Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 5:49:11 PM   
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IB, because dominants are greedy boogers and want it all? *snickering* I've had m/m/f threesomes and it's great fun, but it's not something I intentionally seek with my partner. He's amenable to it simply to please me, on an occasional basis. I could live happily without it.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...





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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 6:55:12 PM   
Lordandmaster


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Why do some Dominants post in their requirements for a sub or a slave that said sub or slave must be bisexual?????

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 6:58:26 PM   
Calandra


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ORIGINAL: Chaingang
My point is that people usually can't get it together even one on one, then they think that increasing the number of participants improves things somehow when all they are really doing is increasing the opportunities for problems to arise. One person can be quite happy even alone. Two is all it takes to truly complete the circuit. Get that part right and maybe you can move onto more.


I do not mean to sound rude, but I've had a happy poly family for over five years. Same participants thank you. We are not poly because we aren't satisfied. We all somehow developed a need for an extended family and created one in the face of society and judgemental people like you telling us it wouldn't/shouldn't work. In our family it's not an orgy every day... shit we've never had an orgy... not once. We love each other, support each other when one of us has had a bad day, rejoice with each other when something wonderful happens to one of us, take care of each other and share the burdens and challenges.
 
When we need advice or just to vent, we have choices in who we go to. When I'm not available, my sub/slaves can consult with each other, and should they arrive at a decision that isn't exactly how "I" would have handled it, they usually stand side by side and accept blame equally....
 
I happen to only look for bisexual partners because thats where we START. If a male slave would feel uncomfortable interacting with cubby (even non-sexually) in scene, the tension would interfere with the entire spirituality of the scene. If a fem were to feel competitive or uncomfortable with nomi or myself, then she cannot possibly fit into an otherwise warm and loving home. (Hell, what do I WANT with a straight femsub??????)
 
I look for two or three basic things when I FIRST meet someone and THEN the fun begins, because a new sub/slave in THIS HOUSE has to impress each and every existing member or they are gone before they even get started. We have a family, not a daily fuck-fest... grow up.

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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/18/2006 9:51:07 PM   
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RE: WhyDo Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves? - 6/19/2006 2:26:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why Do Dominants seek bisexual sub.slaves?
To help them and those of us that have no desire to be bi sort out who is a fit and who isn't.
it's my feelings that sexuality for the most part is not a choice.
lil_joy

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