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Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:44:13 AM   
TheLilSquaw


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Status: offline 		I am looking for some advice.

I home school my UM who has special needs. This semester, we have been working on a project called who am I. I've decided to make this a year long project and expand it little by little. To where he is learning about not only his immediate family but his extended family.

My family is pretty scattered and broken.
I've spoken to my mother about getting me names, birthdates, and birth locations of family members both on her side and my fathers (who is deceased). She said she would.

I have also emailed 2 of my aunts and asked them for the same information as well.

I admit, my ex-husband and I lost contact after our divorce.
His choice.
I would like to add his side of the family to this as well.

I am not sure how to go about it though beyond the basic information that I have for his immediate family. Or mine for that matter.

Any ideas of suggestions?



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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:48:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you go to ancestry dot com you can do a free join and start filling in what you know, and occasionally you get a green leaf that has some info for you on your rellies from someone else who has done research on them, but you gotta write it out, the membership is for printing it.

Do you have family albums?  Clippings from obits and the like in a pile around?  newspaper clippings from anything?

Do you know anything about where born and dates?  Cuz you can go to the courthouse and get birth info, if it is local  to you.  Ask any relatives at all you know of anything, some may have done some geneology (I bet there is an a in ther somewhere, but you get the gimmick)


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:48:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		It sounds trite, but ancestry.com. From there you can request birth, marriage and death information from the town's records office.

My mother traced our family back to 1638.

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:53:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		i've taken pictures of family, re-sized uniformly, and constructed a tree on PaintShop.
After that, i uploaded it to FotoFlexer ( free site ) and added finishing touches.
All this is free and easy enough for me.

Rather than using a prefab format, this can likely give you all the options you need for your family.

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i totally misread the OP. Sorry.


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:55:35 AM   
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You could ask the Mormons.

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 10:59:38 AM   
TheLilSquaw


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Status: offline 		I will look at ancestory.com.
I started this process once before trying to get tribal recognition but because i couldn't go back past my grand parents, I got stuck.
I do have names, and birthdates and brith locations for some people.
Not many such as my parents, my brothers, and my grandfather.

I do have obits for my grandfather and one of my uncles but no one else sadly.
None of them are local to me, although I heard rumors I have a great uncle in PA although I've never meet him and don't even know his name.


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:01:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not a mis-read but a good idea!! If UM has special needs making tree & gluing pictures that are laminated copies could start the process. Picture of them at top, mom dad, gandparents & as more info is revealed put pictures of thos people etc etc...may be more on skill level than heavy data mining through public records.

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ORIGINAL: FelineFae

i've taken pictures of family, re-sized uniformly, and constructed a tree on PaintShop.
After that, i uploaded it to FotoFlexer ( free site ) and added finishing touches.
All this is free and easy enough for me.

Rather than using a prefab format, this can likely give you all the options you need for your family.

e2a
i totally misread the OP. Sorry.




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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:10:16 AM   
TheLilSquaw


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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

Not a mis-read but a good idea!! If UM has special needs making tree & gluing pictures that are laminated copies could start the process. Picture of them at top, mom dad, gandparents & as more info is revealed put pictures of thos people etc etc...may be more on skill level than heavy data mining through public records.

quote:

ORIGINAL: FelineFae

i've taken pictures of family, re-sized uniformly, and constructed a tree on PaintShop.
After that, i uploaded it to FotoFlexer ( free site ) and added finishing touches.
All this is free and easy enough for me.

Rather than using a prefab format, this can likely give you all the options you need for your family.

e2a
i totally misread the OP. Sorry.





This is what we are going to be doing.
Making a giant tree on one of the walls of our classroom, with pictures (if I can get them), names, birthdates, and birth locations.
Then we will take a tack and put it on our map to mark where they were born.

That way it is not only family history but it is real world practice with maps and such.

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:11:38 AM   
TheLilSquaw


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FelineFae

i've taken pictures of family, re-sized uniformly, and constructed a tree on PaintShop.
After that, i uploaded it to FotoFlexer ( free site ) and added finishing touches.
All this is free and easy enough for me.

Rather than using a prefab format, this can likely give you all the options you need for your family.

e2a
i totally misread the OP. Sorry.



No, this is a great idea once I get more information to add.

Thank you!


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:14:18 AM   
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You could ask the Mormons.


they've actually loaded a shit ton of shit up to ancestry.com.  But you don't want to be asking them shit directly, unless you are willing to allow baptism for the dead (and I think she has native heritage, so big damn rotten dirty gamboo on that idea).

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:17:52 AM   
TheLilSquaw


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

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You could ask the Mormons.


they've actually loaded a shit ton of shit up to ancestry.com.  But you don't want to be asking them shit directly, unless you are willing to allow baptism for the dead (and I think she has native heritage, so big damn rotten dirty gamboo on that idea).


Lol man I gotta stop drinking when I read your posts!

I admit I was at a lost at the ask mormons comment.


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:20:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Using construction paper leaves with name, date, location as filler till pictures can be mined will also do the trick

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:20:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		They do geneology so they can baptise their dead relatives, and many did theirs on ancestry . com who couldn't get down to saltlake or parvoo or wherever the hell their research is at, so the mormons loaded up (and are still loading) research into that site for help to their ilk.

 

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:24:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

They do geneology so they can baptise their dead relatives, and many did theirs on ancestry . com who couldn't get down to saltlake or parvoo or wherever the hell their research is at, so the mormons loaded up (and are still loading) research into that site for help to their ilk.

 



Oh... well damn I learned something new!

Thank you.



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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 11:35:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

They do geneology so they can baptise their dead relatives, and many did theirs on ancestry . com who couldn't get down to saltlake or parvoo or wherever the hell their research is at, so the mormons loaded up (and are still loading) research into that site for help to their ilk.


Am I the only person with long dead relatives that would jump out of the grave & kick some butt at suddenly being mormon (instead of southern baptist in my case) because some long distant relative made a personal decision? How do mormons consider this ethical? To me its forcing my decisions on the dead?

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 12:26:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've heard something about a living proxy invoking the soul of the deceased, and the dead do or do not give their consent.
However my source is the faded memory a conversation from years back with people i can't remember.

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 2:13:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

They do geneology so they can baptise their dead relatives, and many did theirs on ancestry . com who couldn't get down to saltlake or parvoo or wherever the hell their research is at, so the mormons loaded up (and are still loading) research into that site for help to their ilk.


Am I the only person with long dead relatives that would jump out of the grave & kick some butt at suddenly being mormon (instead of southern baptist in my case) because some long distant relative made a personal decision? How do mormons consider this ethical? To me its forcing my decisions on the dead?


The theory is that it allows the dead person to accept or not accept Jesus and baptism.  It does not willy-nilly turn them into Mormons. 

It is in Corinthians, I think. 

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 3:37:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

1 Cor 15:29....

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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 4:08:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Two questions if you please?

1. Isn't it rather late to be accepting or not accepting?

2. However does a dead person accept.....anything?

Thank you for answering! :)
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

They do geneology so they can baptise their dead relatives, and many did theirs on ancestry . com who couldn't get down to saltlake or parvoo or wherever the hell their research is at, so the mormons loaded up (and are still loading) research into that site for help to their ilk.


Am I the only person with long dead relatives that would jump out of the grave & kick some butt at suddenly being mormon (instead of southern baptist in my case) because some long distant relative made a personal decision? How do mormons consider this ethical? To me its forcing my decisions on the dead?


The theory is that it allows the dead person to accept or not accept Jesus and baptism.  It does not willy-nilly turn them into Mormons. 

It is in Corinthians, I think. 


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RE: Making a family tree - 1/8/2013 4:10:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

I am looking for some advice.

I home school my UM who has special needs. This semester, we have been working on a project called who am I. I've decided to make this a year long project and expand it little by little. To where he is learning about not only his immediate family but his extended family.

My family is pretty scattered and broken.
I've spoken to my mother about getting me names, birthdates, and birth locations of family members both on her side and my fathers (who is deceased). She said she would.

I have also emailed 2 of my aunts and asked them for the same information as well.

I admit, my ex-husband and I lost contact after our divorce.
His choice.
I would like to add his side of the family to this as well.

I am not sure how to go about it though beyond the basic information that I have for his immediate family. Or mine for that matter.

Any ideas of suggestions?




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