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ORIGINAL: crazyml
If an out and out troll rocks up into a thread and starts behaving like an asshat, then the responsible, adult, thing to do is to report them.

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This is called "being an adult".

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA

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ORIGINAL: crazyml
If an out and out troll rocks up into a thread and starts behaving like an asshat, then the responsible, adult, thing to do is to report them.

That's a subjective judgement and people here call "troll" any time they interact with someone who calls them on their bullshit.

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This is called "being an adult".

No. Adults don't run to mommy, they sort shit out for themselves. It's also an attribute of a dominant personality - which is why those people who claim dominance - yet report at the drop of a hat - are completely undermining that claim.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA

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This is called "being an adult".

No. Adults don't run to mommy, they sort shit out for themselves. It's also an attribute of a dominant personality - which is why those people who claim dominance - yet report at the drop of a hat - are completely undermining that claim.

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA

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ORIGINAL: crazyml
If an out and out troll rocks up into a thread and starts behaving like an asshat, then the responsible, adult, thing to do is to report them.

That's a subjective judgement and people here call "troll" any time they interact with someone who calls them on their bullshit.

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This is called "being an adult".

No. Adults don't run to mommy, they sort shit out for themselves. It's also an attribute of a dominant personality - which is why those people who claim dominance - yet report at the drop of a hat - are completely undermining that claim.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA

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This is called "being an adult".

No. Adults don't run to mommy, they sort shit out for themselves. It's also an attribute of a dominant personality - which is why those people who claim dominance - yet report at the drop of a hat - are completely undermining that claim.

Mods are not my mommy.

Saying because I go to the mods when someone violates the rules / guidelines of the site makes we weak.

Is like saying, if I call the police if I hear my neighbor beating the hell out of his wifey I am weak.

Or that kid that goes to a school admin and reports a bully is weak.

GTFOH


To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

Mods are not my mommy.

Saying because I go to the mods when someone violates the rules / guidelines of the site makes we weak.

Is like saying, if I call the police if I hear my neighbor beating the hell out of his wifey I am weak.

Or that kid that goes to a school admin and reports a bully is weak.

GTFOH


To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I don't think we've ever inter-acted before so, please, understand I am taking issue with what you said and not with you.

Firstly, you canNOT be equating words in an adult discussion forum with someone beating their partner? The two don't even come close to being on par.

Likewise, your second example; the word "bully" suggests that there's some physical damage being done. Add to that fact that you made it about "a kid that goes to the school admin". That removes the whole adult part.

It is a shame (in my view) that people have become so made of KLEENEX© that they can no longer withstand a simple thing like animated disagreement; especially when that disagreement is found on a computer screen where they are safely tucked away in their home and not in any physical danger from the big, mean, interweb bully.

Next, you bring obeying the rules into the discussion and you make a fairly valid point, except that even that has some nuances.

Do you know anyone who has never broken a rule in their entire adult life? Seriously? Have you never had people that you know to be really good human beings who might be having a really bad day and they raise their voice at the waiter or toll collector or bill collector, etc.? NEVER? I would find that extremely hard to believe.

Essentially, the rules here are rules of communication. Not all people excel at communication skills and not all people view communication the same way. Clearly, you equate angry words on a screen with physical violence and while that is your right, I think it does a dis-service to victims of actual physical violence (as well as to sensationalize someone typing "Fuck you" or something similar to someone on the interwebs).

They're words and the only way they can hurt you is if you give any value to the person speaking them. I'm sure, by now, you've decided you don't give a stuff what I think so, my words - if I were to get insulting - shouldn't mean anything to you. Then, what you have is people "running to mommy" 'cause they need to pretend they got their little feelers hurt and garner some attention.

Now, the other side of the coin (and this is the part of your breaking rules analogy that made sense to me) is that (supposedly) we're all held to the same standards here. We're not but we're supposed to be and that is where the validity in your point comes in.

Using my previous example (and not truly directed at you); if I can't type "Fuck you" you certainly shouldn't be able to type "eat shit, asshole", directed at me. But, I ask again; what harm has really befallen either of us?

I'm sorry but equating words on a computer screen with physical violence weakens your argument.

Comparing adults, communicating to "a kid" who's being bullied weakens your argument.

If you know someone who's never broken a rule, chances are you're hanging about with saints and you should check your pulse, quickly.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

Amen

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

Amen

To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

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ORIGINAL: Killerangel

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ORIGINAL: emeraldgryphon

Look at the name of the thread.

Then read my original post.

I told what I did, why I did it, and how the situation was resolved.

I have been under constant attack since that post as I have tried to explain the rationale, regardless of whether I was right or wrong to report the picture.

I have been comporting myself with great reserve and decorum in the face of insults, threats, and outright hostility.

Again, I am not the only person out there who is an arachnophobic. It is a common phobia, usually resulting in violent fight or flight reactions.

Rest assured, I will probably NOT post here again, as it is apparent that adult rational debate cannot occur.

Where's the attack? I see one person with one opinion, and some others with another opinion. Both sides are pointing out what they consider to be important facets in the debate.

Maybe it feels like an attack to you because no one else seems to share your opinion that spider pictures should censored from the general public. Even some people with arachnophobia have posted, they don't feel that spider pictures should be censored from public even though they don't like the pictures themselves.

Where are these insults, threats, and outright hostility?

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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To ME not being able to follow guidelines and rules makes someone weak.
It tells me they lack self control.
And frankly if you don't have self control -
You sure in the hell don't have the ability to control others.

Amen

To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

THIS 1000xs!

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To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Times a billion!
Nothing weak about reporting, when needed. There have been major issues of trolling on some great threads. When people are trying to learn, it's kinda rude and childish to toll. To me, if we all were in or at a BDSM class and some jerk started spouting off some bullshit (and I say bullshit bc that is what it was. It wasn't a healthy disagreement, it was a temper tantrum) the people actually attempting to learn would be pissed. That's how I tend to view things here, I certainly can learn a lot from people, and have.

In this particular forum, the only thing we can do when this happens is either report or hide, or both. Nothing

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Times a billion!
Nothing weak about reporting, when needed. There have been major issues of trolling on some great threads. When people are trying to learn, it's kinda rude and childish to toll. To me, if we all were in or at a BDSM class and some jerk started spouting off some bullshit (and I say bullshit bc that is what it was. It wasn't a healthy disagreement, it was a temper tantrum) the people actually attempting to learn would be pissed. That's how I tend to view things here, I certainly can learn a lot from people, and have.

In this particular forum, the only thing we can do when this happens is either report or hide, or both. Nothing

Not only would others present be pissed but a DM or club manager with a grain of salt would kick them out.

PERIOD.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

To me it is weak if those that are the victims of rule breaking do not speak up for themselves. It is not my place or duty to do it for them.

Butch