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WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 6:13:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
Nut da casualty figures as I understand it. Sumfin like 2.7 mil killed on da Eastern front out of a total of 5.5 mil Mermans.

Drivel. Where did you get those figures from?

Modern estimates of over 5.3 million Germans dead wit da "Eastern Front until 12/31/44 2,742,909" before da routin' of da German forces on German an' nearby territory in da last months of da war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II




Kirata -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 6:31:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Will the west ever learn that it is the cause, not the solution of the chaos in the Arab and muslim world?

Well the British, at least, won't have worry about Islamists in foreign places much longer, because they'll have enough of them in their own country to worry about.

Muslim Patrols in London

K.




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 6:44:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand
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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
Trollin' are we Mr. Igor? Da above is gibberish cept for da point bout da US of A shortenin' da war. Germany could have taken da UK anytime before da end of '41 when it got stuck.

Again you are happy to demonstrate your history is lacking. Germany could take Britain any time it liked because Britain best the Germans decisively in the Battle of Britain.

Nah it's you who is doing dat. Yep Britain won dat famus battle but more through Goring's stupidity cuze he kept underestimating da strength of da RAF. After dat brusing battle they would have come back but Hitler had turned his attention to da USSR. Dats why I said Germany could have taken da UK before gettin' stuck in Russia.

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If you for one minute wake up from your dream, you will realise the amount of equipement necessary for the D-Day landing, there was no way the Germans could have mounted a similar attack in 1940 and the germans understood that.

Buddy boy it is you who is dreamin an' yer just striking out cauze ya don't like me wakin' ya up from dat dream jus as when I asked ya to verify your opinions on da anti-semitism thread which ya have failed to do. Germany didn't need infrastructure on da scale of da D-Day landings ta invade in 1940. It faced a smaller army wit a smaller territorial distance ta bridge. It went on ta mount a massive military campaign on da USSR in 1941 gaining huge amounts of territory.

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
Whaz ya talkin bout? Da US brought in bout 74,000 troops with 156,000 in total? There were more yanks there than of any other nation an' more died than all da others combinbed.

You forgot the British royal navy, merchant navy and airforce Duh!

You aren't very well read are you?

D-Day wuz largely a land war with da allied airforces pretty much wiped out da german air defense before D-Day of which da US contributed hugely. Why ya tryin ta diminish da substantial US contribution Meatcleaver? LOL




IgorsHand -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 7:17:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

Nah it's you who is doing dat. Yep Britain won dat famus battle but more through Goring's stupidity cuze he kept underestimating da strength of da RAF. After dat brusing battle they would have come back but Hitler had turned his attention to da USSR. Dats why I said Germany could have taken da UK before gettin' stuck in Russia.


Do you want to know something?

That's how wars are won and lost. (roll eyes)

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

Buddy boy it is you who is dreamin an' yer just striking out cauze ya don't like me wakin' ya up from dat dream jus as when I asked ya to verify your opinions on da anti-semitism thread which ya have failed to do. Germany didn't need infrastructure on da scale of da D-Day landings ta invade in 1940. It faced a smaller army wit a smaller territorial distance ta bridge. It went on ta mount a massive military campaign on da USSR in 1941 gaining huge amounts of territory.


OK You confirm your diminishing mental faculties.

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

D-Day wuz largely a land war with da allied airforces pretty much wiped out da german air defense before D-Day of which da US contributed hugely. Why ya tryin ta diminish da substantial US contribution Meatcleaver? LOL


That's why D-Day was the biggest sea operation of ALL TIME (roll eyes)

The US forces suffered such heavy casaulties on Utah beach because the US airforce couldn't land a bomb in a pork barrel like they claimed and American infantry paid the price for USAF arrogance.

I'm not diminishing it, I'm putting it in perspective. The USA didn't win the war. Like Britain, Canada, Australia and the rest of the commonwealth and the USSR etc etc, it was on the winning side.

I ain't meatcleaver dude. (double roll eyes)




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 7:47:58 AM)

LOL have ya got some eye complaint wit all dat eye rollin'?

Yep wars can be lost an' won over poor intelligence but if da Third Reich didn't turn toward da USSR they wouldn't have made da same mistake underestimating da RAF again.

Wrong very wrong, D-Day was actually da largest sea borne invasion in military history.

Where did I ever say da US won da war? lol Dunno what's wrong cauze you're unable ta carry an argument without puttin' words in other people's mouths.




Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 10:35:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Will the west ever learn that it is the cause, not the solution of the chaos in the Arab and muslim world?

Well the British, at least, won't have worry about Islamists in foreign places much longer, because they'll have enough of them in their own country to worry about.

Muslim Patrols in London

K.



This is absolute bollocks, to use a London turn of phrase. It is just a small group of youths, now under police investigation. It also also condemed by mainstream Muslim leaders. Dont let that stop your ignorance though.

Its much like showing the film of American soldiers urinating on dead Muslims and claiming its Army policy.




jlf1961 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 10:52:54 AM)

Isn't Mali an african nation, and therefore neither Arab or Muslim?




Moonhead -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 12:27:51 PM)

The people who are kicking off an causing all of the fuss in northern Mali are the local Tuaregs, and it borders Algeria, where there's also been a bit of an Arab problem for the French back when they controlled it.
They do have Arabs in bits of Africa, and there's plenty of non Arab muslims to be found as well.




Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 12:31:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Isn't Mali an african nation, and therefore neither Arab or Muslim?


Africa has both Arabs and non Arabs, Muslims and non Muslims.

One Continent, two sections, the south is sub Saharan if you like, a bit like north and south America.

IE, you can be North African, Arabic and Muslim.




Real0ne -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 3:15:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Oh bullshit.

The Tauregs are fucking warriors, its why Khadaffi used them, he also invaded Mali. That region has always been in conflict, read the fucking bible...

All the Europeans did was put the oppressed minorities in power over the oppressive majorities. Our invasion of Iraq was idiocy and doomed to fail because of that. Afghanistan fell into the classic trap the Brits experienced there. We wanted a leader weak enough we could control.him and so he was too weak to control the warlords. Take note of that word...afghanistan has NEVER known peace, war is in their blood.

Frankly, what we need to do is adopt an updated version of British colonial occupations, reboot the countries from the ground up but with the majorities in power over the religious right. Educate them on being civilized, add in women's rights, and build a decent economy that is self sustaining and over a couple of decades slowly hand it back to them





Not quite true.

Under the english law of conquest, guess who gets the underlying land titles?

couldnt imagine why ALL THE ENGLISH COMMON LAW they are chasing oil its not idiotic, its what people do not understand. there is always a calculated reason and if it seems idiotic to anyone its not because it really is idiotic but because all you ever get to be is mushroom and fed shit all day from their media.



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odd that ALL common law countries just happen to be broke too!





jlf1961 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 3:29:02 PM)

Alright, I have a suggestion.

It seems western countries are real fast to attack Arabs and Muslims.

May I suggest a new target? Like Nepal?

I know they have not done anything to anyone, but that has not stopped western nations in the past, i mean look at Iraq.




Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 3:39:13 PM)

So now we have imaginary laws to sit alongside imaginary swimming pools. What a sad little world you live in.




jlf1961 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 5:07:41 PM)

I have realone on ignore,. It saves me from the overwhelming desire to try and figure out where he lives so I can pass his address to a group of Jewish and Gypsy young adults whose grandparents survived the concentration camps.

While they have been arrested a number of times the trials resulted in Jury nullification.




Kirata -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 5:23:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is absolute bollocks, to use a London turn of phrase. It is just a small group of youths, now under police investigation. It also also condemed by mainstream Muslim leaders. Dont let that stop your ignorance though.

I love your politeness. [:)]

Another "small group of youths"

Islamists in the UK - Report via CNN

K.




Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 5:31:48 PM)

I would be politer if you made more effort with your "couch" facts.

Take a look at Luton and a little group formed there, called the EDL.

It doesnt suit your agenda to suggest muslim extremists are the minority here, and elsewhere come to that. Dont let that halt your bigotry though.




Kirata -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 5:44:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I would be politer if you made more effort with your "couch" facts.

Oh, I don't want you to change. I like you the way you are. Calling people ignorant and bigots becomes you.

K.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 5:48:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I would be politer if you made more effort with your "couch" facts.

Oh, I don't want you to change. I like you the way you are. Calling people ignorant and bigots becomes you.

K.


You can't call people 'ignorant' these days anyway whether they know their ass from a hole in the ground or not. Teh mods haz said so.




Real0ne -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/19/2013 6:52:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have realone on ignore,. It saves me from the overwhelming desire to try and figure out where he lives so I can pass his address to a group of Jewish and Gypsy young adults whose grandparents survived the concentration camps.

While they have been arrested a number of times the trials resulted in Jury nullification.


You mean the survivors splattered across the corporate media or the other survivors that never had one second on tv not even in a pbs documentary?


what I am trying to figger out is if you and polite are propaganda victims, just being completely obtuse, or in total denial since this is the internet age and all that stuff is pretty common knowledge now days.

How can you wonder in your other thread about the growing antisemitism when the truth of these things are discovered so easily today?

answers.com no less?

Were there really soccer camps, swimming pools and SS officer sponsored plays at Auschwitz?
I was watching this documentary about Steven Speilberg's Shoa Foundation and at about 1hr and 40min into this film at the link below, some holocaust survivors started talking about being able to buy beer and cigarettes with camp money, swimming pools, playing soccer with the camp guards and putting on Snow White plays.

Could this be true?!?

What do you historians make of all of this?




This is the video she is talking about
Were there really soccer camps, swimming pools and SS officer sponsored plays at Auschwitz?
find out her answer here:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110223152119AAZVMuv





Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/20/2013 3:56:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I would be politer if you made more effort with your "couch" facts.

Oh, I don't want you to change. I like you the way you are. Calling people ignorant and bigots becomes you.

K.



Yet you still havent posted any actual facts. Go figure.




Politesub53 -> RE: Another Arab-Muslim country bombed by a western country. (1/20/2013 4:07:01 AM)

Did you not even read your own link. You claim was there was an Olympic swimming pool. There wasnt even a pool.

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All of these facilities were available at Camp 1 The "swimming pool" was a fire reservoir fitted with a set of steps




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