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BamaD -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 2:12:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

The main difference is sociological do the Japanese also have baseball bat control because our murder rate with bats exceeds the Japanese murder rate. If they don't it is apples and cement blocks (oranges are too close a comparison).


You right something has to done about the gun culture in the US....I think medications that treat paranoia will do nicely. Then again frontal lobotomies always had good results.[sm=smile.gif]

Glad you see that when is yours scheduled for?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 2:16:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

The main difference is sociological do the Japanese also have baseball bat control because our murder rate with bats exceeds the Japanese murder rate. If they don't it is apples and cement blocks (oranges are too close a comparison).


You right something has to done about the gun culture in the US....I think medications that treat paranoia will do nicely. Then again frontal lobotomies always had good results.[sm=smile.gif]

Glad you see that when is yours scheduled for?

I think he already had one. It would have been nice if they had washed the screwdriver first.




BamaD -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 2:18:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

The main difference is sociological do the Japanese also have baseball bat control because our murder rate with bats exceeds the Japanese murder rate. If they don't it is apples and cement blocks (oranges are too close a comparison).


You right something has to done about the gun culture in the US....I think medications that treat paranoia will do nicely. Then again frontal lobotomies always had good results.[sm=smile.gif]

Glad you see that when is yours scheduled for?

I think he already had one. It would have been nice if they had washed the screwdriver first.

lol




Nosathro -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 2:27:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

The main difference is sociological do the Japanese also have baseball bat control because our murder rate with bats exceeds the Japanese murder rate. If they don't it is apples and cement blocks (oranges are too close a comparison).


You right something has to done about the gun culture in the US....I think medications that treat paranoia will do nicely. Then again frontal lobotomies always had good results.[sm=smile.gif]

Glad you see that when is yours scheduled for?

I think he already had one. It would have been nice if they had washed the screwdriver first.


Alot you know, which is really is not much...I don't use a screwdriver...you been watching to much TV, I use an Ice Pick...Next!




imdoingitagain -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 8:48:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Nope the California Vehicle Code and Penal Code are two seperate things...a violation of the Vehicle the worst is a small fine, points against you, no jail or prison, does not go on a persons criminal record, does not count as an arrest. You appear before a Magistrate not a judge, the Magistrate can be a lawyer, or even a Parole Officer. Where as a violaton of the Penal, an arrest record, criminal record, judge, jury, jail, prison, etc. All laws are created in the best interests of people, at least that is the theory. So you are supporting anarchy?

So, in other words: "Yes"... You're missing the entire point in order to argue about different codes of law.
Like I said earlier, I refuse to support "For your own good" laws (Whether they be from a Vehicle Code or a Penal Code) when the only person that is harmed in any way is the person making the choice. Kind of the whole point behind freedom and personal responsibility.
You don't truly believe that theory translates to reality, do you?
Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? It is possible to have more freedom without anarchy, you realize? Or is it just that much easier to argue against what you want me to be saying as opposed to what I am saying?




imdoingitagain -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 8:54:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: imdoingitagain


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
As it occured to you, which I seriously doubt, that a possible reason for the laws not working is that there a loopholes, which I pointed out. Now if gun control laws don't work, please explain Japan. (This I got hear)


One cannot apply Japanese standards, being a very different mindset due to characteristically Japanese culture, to outside of it. To do so is severe error.




No matter what you think..gun control laws in Japan work....as to mind set...we are a paranoid, well some of us...

Funny you should say that, since I am actually in said country right now...
However, something you fail to consider (Big surprise here) is that the entire country was disarmed for very different reasons.
And, you can't just say "No matter what you think I am right because I say I am right." You absolutely suck at any form of true dialogue. Most of your arguments make no sense, the rest are either "it's so because I say so" and/or the most recent propaganda from whatever your favorite blog that agrees with your stance has to say about it.

The current Constitutional Monarchy of Japan was form in 1947, it is soveign and makes it own laws, it could have made more liberal gun laws but by it's own choice it did otherwise. Japan does have privately owned weapons but the restriction are strictly enforced. Japan also has a weapons manufacture Howa, Miroku Corp. and Sumitomo Machinery Co.(Howa and Miroku make both military and personal weapons)

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

Actually you the one who fails to get anything...but megalomanics are in their own little world. Further please show where I have said "No matter what you think I am right because I say I am right" and "it's so because I say so"

That is priceless!

Now, as to where you said those exact words? You have a serious problem with anything that is not completely literal, don't you?




Nosathro -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 9:30:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: imdoingitagain


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: imdoingitagain


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
As it occured to you, which I seriously doubt, that a possible reason for the laws not working is that there a loopholes, which I pointed out. Now if gun control laws don't work, please explain Japan. (This I got hear)


One cannot apply Japanese standards, being a very different mindset due to characteristically Japanese culture, to outside of it. To do so is severe error.




No matter what you think..gun control laws in Japan work....as to mind set...we are a paranoid, well some of us...

Funny you should say that, since I am actually in said country right now...
However, something you fail to consider (Big surprise here) is that the entire country was disarmed for very different reasons.
And, you can't just say "No matter what you think I am right because I say I am right." You absolutely suck at any form of true dialogue. Most of your arguments make no sense, the rest are either "it's so because I say so" and/or the most recent propaganda from whatever your favorite blog that agrees with your stance has to say about it.

The current Constitutional Monarchy of Japan was form in 1947, it is soveign and makes it own laws, it could have made more liberal gun laws but by it's own choice it did otherwise. Japan does have privately owned weapons but the restriction are strictly enforced. Japan also has a weapons manufacture Howa, Miroku Corp. and Sumitomo Machinery Co.(Howa and Miroku make both military and personal weapons)

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

Actually you the one who fails to get anything...but megalomanics are in their own little world. Further please show where I have said "No matter what you think I am right because I say I am right" and "it's so because I say so"

That is priceless!

Now, as to where you said those exact words? You have a serious problem with anything that is not completely literal, don't you?



What I want to know is who paying for the arguement....I'm not.




imdoingitagain -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 9:32:43 PM)

Okay, that made me chuckle and I can stand you a little bit more, now. (Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you WERE making a joke here)




Nosathro -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 11:21:23 PM)

Recently a New York News Paper, The Journal News, published a list of gun owners, they were critized for doing so. Now it appears that Gawker has released additional names and address of gun owners in New York, where did he get the information? Where else a website, the information has been posted there since 2010. I am still waiting to hear about all the house break ins and guns being stolen, nothing yet.


http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/199963/gawker-releases-list-of-gun-owners-in-new-york-city/




BamaD -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 11:24:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Recently a New York News Paper, The Journal News, published a list of gun owners, they were critized for doing so. Now it appears that Gawker has released additional names and address of gun owners in New York, where did he get the information? Where else a website, the information has been posted there since 2010. I am still waiting to hear about all the house break ins and guns being stolen, nothing yet.


http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/199963/gawker-releases-list-of-gun-owners-in-new-york-city/

There have been two that I am aware of. I am amazed you didn't know that since you claim to know everything that has been put online and this was mentioned by news services.




Nosathro -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 11:42:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Recently a New York News Paper, The Journal News, published a list of gun owners, they were critized for doing so. Now it appears that Gawker has released additional names and address of gun owners in New York, where did he get the information? Where else a website, the information has been posted there since 2010. I am still waiting to hear about all the house break ins and guns being stolen, nothing yet.


http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/199963/gawker-releases-list-of-gun-owners-in-new-york-city/

There have been two that I am aware of. I am amazed you didn't know that since you claim to know everything that has been put online and this was mentioned by news services.



I have not seen anything posted about it, but only 2?




BamaD -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/6/2013 11:58:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Recently a New York News Paper, The Journal News, published a list of gun owners, they were critized for doing so. Now it appears that Gawker has released additional names and address of gun owners in New York, where did he get the information? Where else a website, the information has been posted there since 2010. I am still waiting to hear about all the house break ins and guns being stolen, nothing yet.


http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/199963/gawker-releases-list-of-gun-owners-in-new-york-city/

There have been two that I am aware of. I am amazed you didn't know that since you claim to know everything that has been put online and this was mentioned by news services.



I have not seen anything posted about it, but only 2?

Only two that I know about but not the zero you claim. And they went after gun owners while they were at work, knew who to watch.




slvemike4u -> RE: Disarmament: NY leads the way. (2/7/2013 9:28:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

NY seals 1st state gun laws since Newtown massacre

Cuomo is going beyond making the manufacture and sale illegal. You have to dump the one(s) you currently own. I couldn't find any reference to this story on CNN. This is usually the kind of thing they have front and center. Glad I don't live in New York. Enjoyed a visit to NYC about six years ago. Always wanted to return for another visit but not now. Can't see spending my leisure dollars in their economy.

Don't know how they will get along with out that 37 dollars [&o]




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