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Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 6:12:01 PM   
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I'm trying to come up with a list of questions to ask prospective Doms as I chat through initial emails. One of the questions I ask is what is in their toybag. Twice now I've been told that the Dom likes to use things around the house - like kitchen implements. It feels more "natural".

Er - excuse me - but is it wrong of me to expect (hope) that they have a collection of floggers, crops, paddles, and canes? I mean, i like creativity and all, and maybe a wooden spoon or whatever is fun once in a while, but for me, nothing can replace a leather flogger, strap, etc.
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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 6:23:04 PM   
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I guess it's really up to you if the trappings of BDSM are important or not. The people I've been with have had toys but we really didn't use them much. It's never been a focus for me or them. Some things here and there can be fun, I don't find that I require the props to have kinky fun, but that's just me. A pair of hands and a brain is about all I require for must have's.

I'd have to say that the men replying to you about kitchen implements would be just fine with me. If you need more than it's good that you are asking about this ahead of time.


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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 6:23:31 PM   
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I guess if play is important to you. I dunno. I've never cared what was in someone's toybag. When I met Master we both had a few but not really a whole lot and it really wasn't important to me. Master and I have been together for 7 years ago and I can't even remember the last time we even opened the toybag let alone use a toy! Our idea of play lately is him pinching me, grabbing a magazine and hitting me with it, slapping my face, grab a shoe or a kitchen utensil while I'm trying to cook, wrapping his hands around my neck,etc....just basically using whatever happens to be around the house and he thinks would get a laugh or a howl from me.

So I guess it depends on how important that is to you. If you want to have toy toys, then I guess that's what you expect and you pass those by who don't have them. It's like anything else....how important is it to you?


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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 6:29:09 PM   
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I strongly suggest you buy your own implements. Then you'll know that the only body fluids on them are yours.

If all you're looking for is a one time beat and fuck, then yes, make sure they can do you the way you want to be done.

If you seek a long lasting relationship then realize that such skills can be learned.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 6:35:07 PM   
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When I first started out, I used a lot of handy improvised implements. As I've been in for a while, I find myself accumulating floggers, straps, etc. Perhaps your Doms were new.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:07:18 PM   
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I'm definitely looking for a long lasting relationship. "One time beat and fuck" makes me actually cringe. I agree that a brain and a pair of hands are the best tools to start with, but I also crave a good flogging with a proper flogger and some well-placed blows with a riding crop. Those things, and chains, are what I've felt so far and I would love to feel them again.
Thanks for your input so far - I'm still leaning.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:13:26 PM   
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I love a leather flogger. It's like getting a really thuddy massage for me. But, considering I've had my butt smacked with wrenches, frost bars and hockey sticks....I guess I can't say anything else.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:14:12 PM   
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There's nothing wrong with hoping somebody has a well stocked toy bag. I'm doubtful that many folks are perfecting their florentine flogging technique with things found around the house.

However, always remember that owning a certain type of toy isn't the same as knowing how to *use* that type of toy. Some people buy whips who have never picked one up before and think that just because they own it, they are ready to use it on another person.




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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:16:00 PM   
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Ive got a full toybag of too many implements made for beating...but some of my household implements make them look tame:)
its in the mind of the Dominant as how to use them
Altho I must admit, I love the feel of a bullhide flogger.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:16:02 PM   
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Many times we just grab whatever we have around, but I agree with you, sometimes you crave a specific feel. (I'm on a caning kick atm)

Best bet is to gradually accumulate your own things, and bring them along.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 7:39:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I strongly suggest you buy your own implements. Then you'll know that the only body fluids on them are yours.

If all you're looking for is a one time beat and fuck, then yes, make sure they can do you the way you want to be done.

If you seek a long lasting relationship then realize that such skills can be learned.


This. If an implement is going to be used twice .. i want it used twice on me. People use leather floggers to slap again a vagina and then want to use it on me? No thanks. Build your own toybag and then you dont have to worry

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 8:03:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: saucyangel
is it wrong of me to expect (hope) that they have a collection of floggers, crops, paddles, and canes? I mean, i like creativity and all, and maybe a wooden spoon or whatever is fun once in a while, but for me, nothing can replace a leather flogger, strap, etc.

Define "wrong."

I was a vegetarian for a long time, and I used to beat on a vegetarian chef. Leather was a hard limit for both of us at the time. I'm eating meat now, and I own one pair of leather shoes because I need it sometimes for work, but buying sex toys made of animal skin still bothers me.

A good friend of mine (sub) has a leather fetish. When she inhales the scent of leather she gets soaking wet. So she and I aren't compatible in that respect. So I am "wrong" for her that way. Unless you have a fetish like that, though, my guess is that vanilla compatibility is more important than what toys the man happens to own at this moment in his life.

Also, something to keep in mind: it doesn't require much skill to buy an implement.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/16/2013 8:33:23 PM   
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My girl has her own toy bag, and isn't shy to ask me about using the contents - which is fine by me.

In return, I have a mystery bag. She doesn't know what's in it, but whatever it is, invariably ends up in her.

These little things are the stuff of life.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 1:02:55 AM   
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Thanks, somr very valid points here.

So, to pick up RedMagic1's point about vanilla compatibility and my OP about questions to ask a prospective Dom, is vanilla compatibility the most important consideration, and are you looking for the same qualities as you would be in a vanilla parter - i.e. for me it's always been intelligence, kindness, ability to communicate, self-awareness, etc. - and add to that a sense that there is a D/s dynamic - and the other things are less important - skills, years of experience - because they can be learned? I realize I'm broadening my original question a LOT, but I often hear things like, it takes at least 10 years to become a good Dom - or a lifetime - and at my age, I can't wait for someone new to bdsm to gain all that education and experience - and in a way I'd be mentoriing him because I've educated myself quite a bit. I hope that makes sense - it's 3:00 a.m lol.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 2:37:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: saucyangel

Thanks, somr very valid points here.

So, to pick up RedMagic1's point about vanilla compatibility and my OP about questions to ask a prospective Dom, is vanilla compatibility the most important consideration, and are you looking for the same qualities as you would be in a vanilla parter - i.e. for me it's always been intelligence, kindness, ability to communicate, self-awareness, etc. - and add to that a sense that there is a D/s dynamic - and the other things are less important - skills, years of experience - because they can be learned? I realize I'm broadening my original question a LOT, but I often hear things like, it takes at least 10 years to become a good Dom - or a lifetime - and at my age, I can't wait for someone new to bdsm to gain all that education and experience - and in a way I'd be mentoriing him because I've educated myself quite a bit. I hope that makes sense - it's 3:00 a.m lol.



For me, yes. I have a 24/7 relationship but a good 90% of that is filled up with the same stuff that would be happening if we were vanilla. And most of the remaining 10% probably looks vanilla to the outside world, because you may not realise that I'm deferring to his wishes or acting upon his orders while I'm choosing fruit in the supermarket, for example. Even if he is the boss, we still need to have similar life goals and values. Doesn't matter if his domination makes me feel all gooey inside, if he wants 10 kids and I want none, or if hunting is his favourite hobby and I think it's morally reprehensible, one or both of us are going to be unhappy.

And yes, pretty much the same qualities as a 'regular' boyfriend. Except perhaps even more so. I might be able to overlook certain things if they aren't going to directly affect me too much, but if he's going to be making my decisions as well as his, I need to know he is capable of making them, and that I'm not going to be put in a situation that goes against everything I stand for. If you like your boyfriend to be intelligent, why would you settle for a dummy dom?

Experience doesn't matter so much to me - what matters is being honest about experience level. Ultimately every relationship is different and has it's own learning curve. Skills can be worked on. But someone who tries to make out they know more than they do is potentially dangerous. Someone saying 'I've never done that before, I'll need to learn how to do it safely before we try it' gives me a big hint that he is responsible and trustworthy.

Anyway, your initial question - it's fine to like what you like. Do consider getting your own toys (especially if you like insertables or things make of porous materials). And compromise is the magic word here. 'I am really turned on by the thought of having a stash of BDSM toys, do you think we could meet in the middle?' As others have said though, nothing wrong with household implements. Some of the scariest nights of my life involved nothing more than a hairbrush, spatula and clothes pins. (NB If it comes out of the kitchen, it stays out of the kitchen!)


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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 4:19:57 AM   
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@ saucy angel... when I was in my teens I tried out being a submissive and met an older man off an IM chatroom- he wanted to use a cucumber on me and eat it! hows that for 'creativity'... I have never looked at a cucumber the same way again. Has anyone else ever had someone wanting to use strange objects on them? or needed to use a strange object?

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 6:59:24 AM   
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Gives a whole new meaning to soup ladles... Hahahahaha
quote:

ORIGINAL: saucyangel

I'm trying to come up with a list of questions to ask prospective Doms as I chat through initial emails. One of the questions I ask is what is in their toybag. Twice now I've been told that the Dom likes to use things around the house - like kitchen implements. It feels more "natural".

Er - excuse me - but is it wrong of me to expect (hope) that they have a collection of floggers, crops, paddles, and canes? I mean, i like creativity and all, and maybe a wooden spoon or whatever is fun once in a while, but for me, nothing can replace a leather flogger, strap, etc.


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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 7:13:13 AM   
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quote:

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@ saucy angel... when I was in my teens I tried out being a submissive and met an older man off an IM chatroom- he wanted to use a cucumber on me and eat it! hows that for 'creativity'... I have never looked at a cucumber the same way again. Has anyone else ever had someone wanting to use strange objects on them? or needed to use a strange object?


I can't speak to the eating of the cucumber after sexual use, but it's a common thing that people use in place of sex toys.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 9:15:50 AM   
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Mousetraps, hair brushes, wooden spoons, and C clamps.

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RE: Household Implements as Toys? - 1/17/2013 10:12:02 AM   
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My first thought before I read your post was sex toys. The germaphobe in me was cringing at the thought of sharing insertable toys. LOL but for impact all I can say is anything can be used. You simply need a good imagination.



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