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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:13:40 AM   
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If you need to pass a drug test to receive a benefit like food stamps, shouldn't you have to pass a drug test to receive a benefit which could be used to kill someone?



Be careful what you wish for. Drug tests not only drain tax payer money. But some politician twiddling his thumbs in DC may decide, "hell, why only foodstamps and guns? why don't we drug test for driving? why don't we drug test for owning a business? why don't we drug test for anything we can drug test for? It gets to be a bit absurd and ridiculous. IMO

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:15:16 AM   
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Amusing, but predictably ignorant.

Disarming and pacifying a large, armed, and resistant populace is no quick and easy business.

K.


Oh, I don't know, Hitler did it rather quickly, then there are others like Hugo Chavez, both were very sucessful with the polictical process, they had no problem getting elected or re-elected.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:29:08 AM   
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Surely you are not stupid enough to think "promote the general welfare" refers to the welfare government programs we have today. A little reading will inform you that welfare, the government giving people money for doing nothing, did not exist when the constitution was written.


Oh I don't know, look at some of those politicans, they do nothing and get paid for it. Also remember that welfare programs also include Social Security, which you are taxed for. Also welfare programs date back to the Romans

In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:30:39 AM   
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Oh, I don't know

QFT

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:33:52 AM   
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

"Corn Dole"? Really?

Are you so totally unaware of history as to not realize that the ancient Romans never saw corn and therefore could have had no word for it?

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 10:48:14 AM   
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"Promote the general welfare" means "handouts" but "shall not be infringed" does not mean "shall not be infringed".

Thanks for clearing that up.

I think it would count as promoting the general welfare if these people had removed their attackers from the gene pool.

Woman attacked and thrown on subway tracks
Woman with child stabbed inside Bed Bath & Beyond
Woman's face slashed in attack at Fayette Mall
Dallas store clerk beaten with hammers

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Does your list include Micheal Dunn, John Horn, James Patrick Wonder, Raul Rodriguez, Jake England...I could go on....
And you still not getting a free pass to Comic-Con.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:05:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I really don't have a problem with drug testing as a requisite for having a firearms license as long as those receiving government assistance are held to the the same standard. Urinating into a cup is a small inconvenience if it helps eliminate the moocher class in our country. The savings from fraudulent assistance that we no longer have to pay out will probably pay for all of the drug testing and still net us a balance.

For once we agree on something, farglebargle. Hell hath frozen over.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:05:58 AM   
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

"Corn Dole"? Really?

Are you so totally unaware of history as to not realize that the ancient Romans never saw corn and therefore could have had no word for it?


"congiaria" is a word that referrs to types of grain does not mean corn as we know it. Again if you have some problem with this take it up with Augustus, not me, I am only quoting him.


From the Oxford Dictionary
Definition of corn
noun
[mass noun]
1British the chief cereal crop of a district, especially (in England) wheat or (in Scotland) oats: fields of corn


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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:07:50 AM   
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Amusing, but predictably ignorant.

Disarming and pacifying a large, armed, and resistant populace is no quick and easy business.

K.


Oh, I don't know, Hitler did it rather quickly, then there are others like Hugo Chavez, both were very sucessful with the polictical process, they had no problem getting elected or re-elected.



Now I'm beginning to see where you're coming from.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:08:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Shall not be infringed". What part of that do you not understand? If we let them take out guns we deserve what happens next.

A Zero murder by gun rate more than likely.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:20:07 AM   
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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:25:43 AM   
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A Zero murder by gun rate more than likely.

Yes, and that's obviously what you care most about. Assault, rape, and homicide by other means, not so much. After all, things are so much more "civilized" when citizens are denied an effective means of defending themselves, right?

K.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:31:01 AM   
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

take it up with Augustus, not me, I am only quoting him

Augustus used the word "corn" eh?

K.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:31:08 AM   
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How about we just do away with food stamps? I see them mentioned nowhere in the Bill Of RIGHTS.



Preamble of the US Constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


interesting, so whats with the red? what does that mean?


He thinks that it means
1. That promote the general welfare is a constitutional mandate for food stamps.
2. That making it red means we dummies might get the point

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:31:37 AM   
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I find this most interesting.....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:32:46 AM   
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

take it up with Augustus, not me, I am only quoting him

Augustus used the word "corn" eh?

K.

This isn't so much nitpicking as anal twonking, sport.
If he'd quoted Augustus in Latin, would anybody have been able to follow the quotation?

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:34:08 AM   
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Personally, I really don't have a problem with drug testing as a requisite for having a firearms license as long as those receiving government assistance are held to the the same standard. Urinating into a cup is a small inconvenience if it helps eliminate the moocher class in our country. The savings from fraudulent assistance that we no longer have to pay out will probably pay for all of the drug testing and still net us a balance.

For once we agree on something, farglebargle. Hell hath frozen over.



chuckles

You have no problem wasting tax payer money this way?

And yet you have a problem with handouts for the poor?

Interesting....

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:34:22 AM   
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food

take it up with Augustus, not me, I am only quoting him

Augustus used the word "corn" eh?

K.


the word most likely was "congiaria" in Augustus day Latin was spoken...don't ya know....

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:35:47 AM   
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This isn't so much nitpicking as anal twonking, sport.

If he'd quoted Augustus in Latin, would anybody have been able to follow the quotation?

So you agree that congiaria translates as "corn dole" then, eh sport?

This must be a Mensa gathering.

K.

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RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? - 1/18/2013 11:37:50 AM   
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