Real0ne
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here wrap your head around this one:
quote:
Patrick Henry, June 4, 1788
I have the highest veneration for those gentlemen; but, sir, give me leave to demand, What right had they to say, We, the people? My political curiosity, exclusive of my anxious solicitude for the public welfare, leads me to ask, Who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the people, instead of, We, the states? States are the characteristics and the soul of a confederation. If the states be not the agents of this compact, it must be one great, consolidated, national government, of the people of all the states. I have the highest respect for those gentlemen who formed the Convention, and, were some of them not here, I would express some testimonial of esteem for them. America had, on a former occasion, put the utmost confidence in them--a confidence which was well placed; and I am sure, sir, I would give up any thing to them; I would cheerfully confide in them as my representatives. But, sir, on this great occasion, I would demand the cause of their conduct. Even from that illustrious man who saved us by his valor [George Washington], I would have a reason for his conduct: that liberty which he has given us by his valor, tells me to ask this reason; and sure I am, were he here, he would give us that reason. But there are other gentlemen here, who can give us this information.
The people gave them no power to use their name. That they exceeded their power is perfectly clear. It is not mere curiosity that actuates me: I wish to hear the real, actual, existing danger, which should lead us to take those steps, so dangerous in my conception. Disorders have arisen in other parts of America; but here, sir, no dangers, no insurrection or tumult have happened; every thing has been calm and tranquil. But, notwithstanding this, we are wandering on the great ocean of human affairs. I see no landmark to guide us. We are running we know not whither. Difference of opinion has gone to a degree of inflammatory resentment in different parts of the country, which has been occasioned by this perilous innovation. The federal Convention ought to have amended the old system; for this purpose they were solely delegated; the object of their mission extended to no other consideration.
That should raise a few eyebrows!
they wrote the constitution to make it possible for them to forcibly collect taxes from a broke government.
these are all corporations and companys yes "the united states", when they do not pay their bills there is no requirement to publish private trust agreements between sovereigns.
any idea how important that little bit of fraud is? They reorganized! Like any other going into bankruptcy!
its why everything is red!
if you think there is try to sue for a mortgage that the original note was sold to a private trust. (voiding and making collection from you unenforceable in law, not that the courts give a fuck), It very nearly vanishes and only a series 7 can get it for you in a forensic audit.
see:
"Who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the people, instead of, We, the states?"
Patrick Henry understands the distinction that have long been ignored and or omitted not to the benefit of the "common people" though some People did benefit greatly.
anyway I digress.
< Message edited by Real0ne -- 1/20/2013 9:12:08 AM >
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