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metamorfosis -> Let's do this here (1/21/2013 3:49:51 PM)

Yes, let's do this here. Firstly, because I know you won't risk exposing yourself by replying directly to private email. Secondly, because, well, this is a matter that concerns the whole forum. Besides I dislike subtlety and mind games. It's much better to have these things out in the open.

You've claimed that the moderation here is singling you out for censure. I'm convinced that's not true and, frankly, I think you know it. This war of slander and innuendo is a Machiavalian technique to make the administration look bad so you can achieve your objective: free license to troll these boards unhindered. Perhaps you had the additional objective of humiliating me.

You make these repeated claims against others integrity and then, over and over again, prove unwilling to back them up. You bully others while feigning victimhood. You refuse to see the legitimacy of anyone's point of view except your own. You manipulate others to act as a pawn in your game. You wield "integrity" like a billy club in a street fight- as a weapon to injure your opponent and not as a guiding principal of behavior. You embed intelligence and reason into posts whose primary purpose is clearly to incite to riot. You hijack thread after thread to draw attention to yourself. When called on your bullshit, you evade the question or refuse to answer altogether. You impune other's integrity to draw attention from your own lies. You create socks to manipulate and weigh in on questions you lack the courage to answer under your own username.

All of this is disturbingly familiar. Did you and Arpig learn from one another? Is that why you were enemies, because you figured out each other's jig? Assuming you are, in fact, different people. I noticed that way back when you both viewed my profile repeatedly. I mean, repeatedly. Like once a week for over a year. Neither of you ever said anything to me but there it was, these repeated peeks at my profile. I assumed it was harmless, but now I realize the significance. Someone once told me that my profile was exactly the kind of thing that would attract online predators. You and Arpig must have had the same motive for viewing.

There's clearly nothing wrong with the moderation here except, perhaps, the penchant for being a little naive. I will point out this last little bit of irony, and then be done. As much as it upsets me to have to write these words, I've still managed to remain within the rules of the site in so doing. As a consequence, this post will probably not be pulled. That is self discipline.

Pam




Level -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:13:06 PM)

Do you think this person will show up?




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:21:05 PM)

Don't know, but no doubt they know I meant them.

Pam




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:24:23 PM)

But, no. I don't really expect an answer. This is simply a warning to forum members to be on your guard. Some of you will be able to guess who it is. I'm not going to name the person. I'm not willing to provide too much more detail. You can believe me, or not.


Pam




merge9 -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:36:59 PM)

I'm guessing he's in the rafters right now.




Level -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:43:10 PM)

The one I was guessing isn't up there... or is he?




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 4:52:23 PM)

Let's not speculate about it. Firstly, because I could be wrong. I doubt it, but it's possible. Secondly, because this person, reading this, might decide to desist. Thirdly, because it doesn't make any difference who it is. I given a list of techniques that I believe are being used to manipulate forum members. It would be wise for everyone to be on their guard against the use of those techniques no matter who the person using them is. And it is still wise to be on guard against them even if I'm completely mistaken and there is no threat.

I'm simply saying: be wary of being manipulated. That's good advice regardless.

Pam




littlewonder -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:06:48 PM)

Not sure what the point of this is but ok.

Maybe try not to take the forums and people here so seriously if this is how it leaves you feeling? Just a suggestion.




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:07:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Maybe try not to take the forums and people here so seriously if this is how it leaves you feeling? Just a suggestion.



Thanks, that's good advice.

Pam




lizi -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:20:50 PM)

I have to say that it's been puzzling to me that some members here choose to post in a deliberately aggressive manner. The provocation is intentional, and if the overall reason they are posting is to have a conversation or add their viewpoint to a subject, why add it in a manner that will be either misinterpreted, overlooked, or lead things off topic?




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:32:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lizi
I have to say that it's been puzzling to me that some members here choose to post in a deliberately aggressive manner. The provocation is intentional, and if the overall reason they are posting is to have a conversation or add their viewpoint to a subject, why add it in a manner that will be either misinterpreted, overlooked, or lead things off topic?


That may simply be a person's manner. However, the MO seems similar enough to Arpig's (I'm not saying it is Arpig, just that they seem to use some of the same techniques) that I thought it cause for concern, and something that warranted mentioning.

No one has gotten killed, folks. Let's not blow this out of proportion. I just thought it wise to call attention to what may turn into a problem. That is all.

Pam




Lynnxz -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:35:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: metamorfosis
Let's not blow this out of proportion.


Lol, looks like it's too late for that.

Hide and move on... Hide and move on...




lizi -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:42:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: metamorfosis

quote:

ORIGINAL: lizi
I have to say that it's been puzzling to me that some members here choose to post in a deliberately aggressive manner. The provocation is intentional, and if the overall reason they are posting is to have a conversation or add their viewpoint to a subject, why add it in a manner that will be either misinterpreted, overlooked, or lead things off topic?


That may simply be a person's manner. However, the MO seems similar enough to Arpig's (I'm not saying it is Arpig, just that they seem to use some of the same techniques) that I thought it cause for concern, and something that warranted mentioning.

No one has gotten killed, folks. Let's not blow this out of proportion. I just thought it wise to call attention to what may turn into a problem. That is all.

Pam


Well, it's been something I have been thinking about which has nothing at all to do with Arpig. The fact that a person would be on a message board and dealing with written communication and with some good additions to a topic, but the thoughts behind the good addition aren't always able to be seen because of the manner that they come wrapped in.

If it is their manner, it surely is counter productive. Which is fine, but then why choose to communicate in that fashion and waste the time it took to type something out when it doesn't get very far or goes off of their intended target?

No, no one has gotten killed, and I don't think I'm blowing something out of proportion by wondering about the subject you opened the thread on. I'm confused, are we not supposed to comment on your topic? I felt like discussing an aspect of it, or was this more of a public service announcement?




metamorfosis -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 5:52:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lizi
I'm confused, are we not supposed to comment on your topic? I felt like discussing an aspect of it, or was this more of a public service announcement?


It was meant as a public service announcement, but you are certainly entitled to comment if you want to. I wasn't reflecting on what you said but rather on what I said myself when I remarked about not blowing this out of proportion. Sorry for the confusion.

Pam




littlewonder -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 6:49:22 PM)

I dunno....the whole idea of a "public announcement" of this just reminds me of the posts people come on here and post about "beware of so and so. She/he's a fake".

People are adults. They can make their own decisions without needing someone to tell them. Repeat....it's just a forum. It's just a forum, it's just a forum.




Marini -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 6:53:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I dunno....the whole idea of a "public announcement" of this just reminds me of the posts people come on here and post about "beware of so and so. She/he's a fake".

People are adults. They can make their own decisions without needing someone to tell them. Repeat....it's just a forum. It's just a forum, it's just a forum.

[sm=applause.gif]




Thanks GOOD POST lw!!!




littlewonder -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 6:55:11 PM)

I called you an idiot? News to me. I may have called one of your thoughts to be stupid, but if you can show me where I called you stupid, I'd like to know.

And thanks. Life is going swell! I don't take online seriously. It's simply entertainment.

ETA: and no I'm not all sweetness, thank gawd. I never claimed to be.





kdsub -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 6:57:31 PM)

Pam I just hope you realize that your tormentor may be manipulating you and getting his or her jollies by this type of thread.

I started a whole thread on not reporting people but this is a case where I would surely report someone who is purposely harassing you.

Good luck

Butch




Marini -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 6:58:51 PM)

No lw!!! Not you, I agreed with you.
Who on here is always sweetness and light?
I replied to you by mistake, because I agreed with what you wrote, see the applause?

My comments WERE directed at the OP.
Pam, the one that started this post, commented on something I wrote, and called me an idiot out of the blue!

First she attacked me out of the blue, now she created this paranoid sounding post, I am thinking she needs help.




kalikshama -> RE: Let's do this here (1/21/2013 7:01:48 PM)

Marini, you still have time to edit your post # 16 so it's clear to whom you are referring.




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