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medical examiner. Who would have gotten ballistic tests from the bullets that entered the victims bodies.

How long do you believe that would take? Considering they would have tested all the weapons they pulled from the school.

I'm sure it took them minutes with a satellite feed and this guy.
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Though in seriousness for one man to examine 3-4 wounds each on 20 children himself and be able to definitively say what every wound was by caliber would probably take a week.
To name it to a specific gun, they'd have to find the bullets, if any survived in good enough condition. And use a microscope to compare them to bullets they fired through the gun to see if the barrel left the same scoring marks.

I'm not saying he didn't use whatever gun it was, he probably did. But I'd question that information for being sensationalist and possibly fraudulent depending on the date it was released.

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Bodies found on the 14th. Brutal case, lots of state help. He gave his findings on the 15th. I have no problem for this case, in believing they had no trouble getting lots of help through the night.

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The actual test only takes an hour. How many bullets does he need to test to determine which gun they came from found at the crime scene?

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How is it a best guess if even one bullet was from a Bushmaster? How many bullets would they have had to remove to match it up to the weapons at the crime scene?

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How is it a best guess if even one bullet was from a Bushmaster? How many bullets would they have had to remove to match it up to the weapons at the crime scene?

One from the bushmaster doesn't mean all were from the bushmaster one can only say all were from rhe one gun if you have tested all of the bullets

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How is it a best guess if even one bullet was from a Bushmaster? How many bullets would they have had to remove to match it up to the weapons at the crime scene?

One from the bushmaster doesn't mean all were from the bushmaster one can only say all were from rhe one gun if you have tested all of the bullets

We dont know that they werent. But, considering only one rifle was found inside, depending on how many bullets they found from the guns, wouldnt it be a safe estimate that if a couple of the children were shot by a Bushmaster, that at least most were?

All of this negates the erroneous assumption made by Liz, and others, repeatedly that only 4 hand guns were found.

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ORIGINAL: imdoingitagain

Have to jump in here and say how ridiculous it is that people have so quickly latched onto this media driven campaign that Bushmaster=Evil.
We all understand that Bushmaster is simply a weapon manufacturer, correct..? It's not a type, class, caliber and is not an interchangeable word for the feared "assault weapon"...

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safe estimate = best guess
I have already pointed out that the article they refered to has been removed from the site and replaced with an apology for having posted a story which it turned out was based on bad information.
also note I called it a best guess not a wag

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People you might try reading this before we go any further

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Below are the types of firearms that would be prohibited under the bill introduced by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., according to her website. For more on this story, follow our coverage here.

Rifles:
All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR-10, AR-15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15-T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR-70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R-15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR-15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT-9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR-48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M-14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1-C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

Pistols: All AK-47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK-47 pistol, HCR AK-47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK-47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR-15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR-15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR-15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR-15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP-9 and MP-45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC-10, MAC-11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.

Shotguns: Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.

Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary

Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.

Yes!

It's odd....anytime I see a post by Taz that attempts to stir up some incredible bullshit....I don't read it and inherently know....I disagree.

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LMAO You too?

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Where do you people come up with this from?