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Baroana -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 4:55:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

I know I'm young and don't know much, and that my profile isn't perfect at all. But, when I read your profile you came off as condescending. I mean, I want to meet the women first then the *bitch* during play, but the women is who I want to meet. IMO, the condescending factor will make it intimidating for most men (including me) to talk to you because some may feel as if nothing that they say or do will peek your interest. As Shama's pointed out, your profile creates a small communication barrier, which I hope I explained why that was using my opinion. Then again, I understand that you receive a lot of messages from punks, players, and losers so there might be a reason for why you layed out your profile that way. Perhaps, Virginia's suggestion would be best to show that you are approachable? This may give someone a more precise way on how they can communicate with you on a first message.


I think you are looking for an entirely different type of woman, more like you'd find on a vanilla dating site...a sweet, friendly girl who will cuddle and support you, but act kinky and slap you around when it suits YOUR needs and won't lay down any rules you have to follow.
I put up barriers like hers ON PURPOSE. ("Condescending"? Well, Dommes generally DO talk down to subs, it's part of the "job" description, so to speak.) Barriers are useful to weed out most of the cock-stroking, self-serving time wasters who think the Dominant woman is here for the purpose of pleasing THEM. Should a Domme sound cuddly and have a sexy pic? I'm not interested in being friendly to males I don't know. Why should I be, because society thinks I should be sweet? If males don't like the strict rules I place in their way then they simply aren't the type I seek and they are free to find some woman who makes things EASY for them. Let them climb over the walls and jump some hurdles if they want to see My "nice" side....and there are plenty of male subs psychologically robust enough to make it through to meet the real Me. My message box has been non-stop busy since I set up My profile back in Sept. OMG, I hate to think how many freaking junk messages I'd have to sift through if I'd put up a PRETTY photo of Myself and used "FRIENDLY" wording!
If you guys are too thin-skinned to handle her talking down to you and demanding you follow some rules, you shouldn't be looking for a Domme. Better to see Her ugly side BEFORE you approach Her, than to be suddenly surprised when She brings it out AFTER you are tied up and helpless.

To the OP, I guess the big issue is this: Are you getting the RESULTS--responses from the TYPE of sub you seek--with your profile the way is has been? If yes, LEAVE IT....if no, then CHANGE IT. EASY PEASY!

--MM



MM, I totally agree with everything you said. Thank you for having my back :)

I did change the profile, because since I wasn't getting the results I wanted I figured I should take some of the advice I was being given.

Hopefully the wankers won't all come out of the woodwork now.




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:03:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: Baroana

Thanks, everyone. I have some catching up to do on individual responses. Just FYI, I edited my profile, and Aries is commenting on the new one.


It's a really good profile now. Become a sub and relocate to Colorado, and we'll talk.

Seriously, it just feels... comfortable. And it mentions your interests. I like it.


Steven, you just lost MAJOR points in My scorebook. *frowns*




littlewonder -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:04:30 PM)

When I see a profile up that has barriers, the first thing I think is that they probably have a lot of emotional walls in their real life and to be honest, that's the last thing I want to have to deal with in a person. Sure, everyone has some walls, but when they start being condescending, a lot of negative remarks, a giant list of nots and dislikes, it makes me think they are still hurting from past problems and have not moved on yet and therefore, not really ready to be with someone else yet.

I haven't read your profile yet, but I will get back to you on that.




littlewonder -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:14:12 PM)

Ok, so I've read your profile just now.

For the most part, the changes you made I think are good even though I have no idea what you had before. There are a couple of things I would change if it were my profile but this will be up to you. Let me explain.

1. When you talk about not initiating contact. I personally wouldn't even bother putting it in. If someone sees your profile and they like it, most likely they will message you anyway since most guys do the messaging anyway be they sub or dom or whatever. I just think it's unnecessary.

2. Where you mention you will not respond back. Again, I see no reason even to mention it. If they get upset because you never bothered to respond, they are the type who are not going to read your profile anyway so again, unnecessary.

I did however, like that you put in fun facts about yourself. That's cute and eye catching.

Now I have one other nitpicking thing but this could just be me and the men I know, but usually when men see a photo of a woman with a cat as her profile photo, my experience has always been that they think "crazy cat lady". I'm not saying you are. I'm saying the men I've always known, that's the first thing that comes to their mind. Sooo...maybe try a photo that is of you but not showing your face if that's the reason you don't have a photo of yourself?

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck!




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:18:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

When I see a profile up that has barriers, the first thing I think is that they probably have a lot of emotional walls in their real life and to be honest, that's the last thing I want to have to deal with in a person. Sure, everyone has some walls, but when they start being condescending, a lot of negative remarks, a giant list of nots and dislikes, it makes me think they are still hurting from past problems and have not moved on yet and therefore, not really ready to be with someone else yet.

I haven't read your profile yet, but I will get back to you on that.

Actually, your interpretation is incorrect. It's just the OPPOSITE, in RL I'm VERY open. That is one reason why the barriers need to be there. I'm also not looking to "BE with someone", if you read My profile as well as My posts on the topic of non-sexual D/s when it pops up, you'd know that already. THIS is why My profile has barriers, to keep out those looking for sex. I'm not sorry if this offends.

--MM




littlewonder -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:20:39 PM)

I wasn't talking about yours or anyone elses's specifically. I was stating generally when I see barriers in a profile, that's what goes through my head and keeps me from contacting them.

I haven't seen your profile so I have no idea what's in it.




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:22:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Ok, so I've read your profile just now.

For the most part, the changes you made I think are good even though I have no idea what you had before. There are a couple of things I would change if it were my profile but this will be up to you. Let me explain.

1. When you talk about not initiating contact. I personally wouldn't even bother putting it in. If someone sees your profile and they like it, most likely they will message you anyway since most guys do the messaging anyway be they sub or dom or whatever. I just think it's unnecessary.

2. Where you mention you will not respond back. Again, I see no reason even to mention it. If they get upset because you never bothered to respond, they are the type who are not going to read your profile anyway so again, unnecessary.

I did however, like that you put in fun facts about yourself. That's cute and eye catching.

Now I have one other nitpicking thing but this could just be me and the men I know, but usually when men see a photo of a woman with a cat as her profile photo, my experience has always been that they think "crazy cat lady". I'm not saying you are. I'm saying the men I've always known, that's the first thing that comes to their mind. Sooo...maybe try a photo that is of you but not showing your face if that's the reason you don't have a photo of yourself?

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck!



I agree, except for the photo part. The cat is cute, and it gets across the idea that you love your cat. I've had great luck with just a damn map...a SARCASTIC map....perhaps you could edit your cat photo with: CAT--->




Baroana -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:28:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Ok, so I've read your profile just now.

For the most part, the changes you made I think are good even though I have no idea what you had before. There are a couple of things I would change if it were my profile but this will be up to you. Let me explain.

1. When you talk about not initiating contact. I personally wouldn't even bother putting it in. If someone sees your profile and they like it, most likely they will message you anyway since most guys do the messaging anyway be they sub or dom or whatever. I just think it's unnecessary.

2. Where you mention you will not respond back. Again, I see no reason even to mention it. If they get upset because you never bothered to respond, they are the type who are not going to read your profile anyway so again, unnecessary.

I did however, like that you put in fun facts about yourself. That's cute and eye catching.

Now I have one other nitpicking thing but this could just be me and the men I know, but usually when men see a photo of a woman with a cat as her profile photo, my experience has always been that they think "crazy cat lady". I'm not saying you are. I'm saying the men I've always known, that's the first thing that comes to their mind. Sooo...maybe try a photo that is of you but not showing your face if that's the reason you don't have a photo of yourself?

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck!




Thanks very much for the input, littlewonder!

I will keep in mind what you have said.

You are right that many males will initiate messaging. However, it seems to me that many more are passive and wait for women to message them. Also, I don't want guys to necessarily think that if I viewed their profile but didn't write, I'm not interested.

You may be correct about the no response section. I was making an effort to be cordial ..... or something.

As for the cat photo, I actually don't mind scaring away guys who are that frightened of a crazy cat lady. I do have three cats, and I consider that sharply distinguishable from 300. But I will be the first to admit that am a little bit cat crazy, and if a guy can't handle that I'm not interested.

I will consider putting up a discreet photo of myself. I don't have many photos, and the few that I like are already on Facebook. I really don't want to be recognized from there, so it would have to be a different photo.




Baroana -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:30:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Ok, so I've read your profile just now.

For the most part, the changes you made I think are good even though I have no idea what you had before. There are a couple of things I would change if it were my profile but this will be up to you. Let me explain.

1. When you talk about not initiating contact. I personally wouldn't even bother putting it in. If someone sees your profile and they like it, most likely they will message you anyway since most guys do the messaging anyway be they sub or dom or whatever. I just think it's unnecessary.

2. Where you mention you will not respond back. Again, I see no reason even to mention it. If they get upset because you never bothered to respond, they are the type who are not going to read your profile anyway so again, unnecessary.

I did however, like that you put in fun facts about yourself. That's cute and eye catching.

Now I have one other nitpicking thing but this could just be me and the men I know, but usually when men see a photo of a woman with a cat as her profile photo, my experience has always been that they think "crazy cat lady". I'm not saying you are. I'm saying the men I've always known, that's the first thing that comes to their mind. Sooo...maybe try a photo that is of you but not showing your face if that's the reason you don't have a photo of yourself?

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck!



I agree, except for the photo part. The cat is cute, and it gets across the idea that you love your cat. I've had great luck with just a damn map...a SARCASTIC map....perhaps you could edit your cat photo with: CAT--->



LOL, I only just now got the sarcasm!




EsotericLady -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:31:51 PM)

Baroana...

No matter how many opinions you receive though, only YOU can make the final decision on what makes you the happiest! :)

As for the nasty cmail? (shrugs) Those people aren't worth the time it takes to get upset.




littleone14 -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 5:50:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Baroana

Thanks, everyone. I have some catching up to do on individual responses. Just FYI, I edited my profile, and Aries is commenting on the new one.


I just read it, and if I were your demographic I'd be really interested. Plus, bonus points for having a black cat (I have two!!!)




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 6:05:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Baroana

As for the cat photo, I actually don't mind scaring away guys who are that frightened of a crazy cat lady. I do have three cats, and I consider that sharply distinguishable from 300. But I will be the first to admit that am a little bit cat crazy, and if a guy can't handle that I'm not interested.

I will consider putting up a discreet photo of myself. I don't have many photos, and the few that I like are already on Facebook. I really don't want to be recognized from there, so it would have to be a different photo.

I know several Dommes who have NO PHOTO WHATSOEVER and still get plenty of good subs contacting them due to their profile content. Many subs who contact Me have no photo but will often send one with a message. If you are uncomfortable posting a pic on your profile, hold off for a couple weeks and see what response you get with the new profile changes you've made tonight. *After you interview subs on CollarMe you can always cam chat with them if you want to see each other's faces (just don't do anything STUPID on camera in case they are recording)

By the way....all these changes you are making...keep in mind you are STILL going to get the occasional troll...I hope you realize that and won't let it bother you.

(pointing and laughing helps)

--MM




Baroana -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 6:07:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


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ORIGINAL: Baroana

As for the cat photo, I actually don't mind scaring away guys who are that frightened of a crazy cat lady. I do have three cats, and I consider that sharply distinguishable from 300. But I will be the first to admit that am a little bit cat crazy, and if a guy can't handle that I'm not interested.

I will consider putting up a discreet photo of myself. I don't have many photos, and the few that I like are already on Facebook. I really don't want to be recognized from there, so it would have to be a different photo.

I know several Dommes who have NO PHOTO WHATSOEVER and still get plenty of good subs contacting them due to their profile content. Many subs who contact Me have no photo but will often send one with a message. If you are uncomfortable posting a pic on your profile, hold off for a couple weeks and see what response you get with the new profile changes you've made tonight. *After you interview subs on CollarMe you can always cam chat with them if you want to see each other's faces (just don't do anything STUPID on camera in case they are recording)

By the way....all these changes you are making...keep in mind you are STILL going to get the occasional troll...I hope you realize that and won't let it bother you.

(pointing and laughing helps)

--MM



Thanks again for the good input.

Actually, I'm not very shy at all with regard to sharing photos via private message. I also like to skype with guys that are too far away to meet in person. I absolutely do not take off clothes.




LadyPact -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 7:08:09 PM)

Excellent improvements!




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 8:08:43 PM)

Baroana, your new & improved profile is great!!

NBMG




EsotericLady -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 8:26:32 PM)

Excuse me, however not ALL Dommes find it necessary to talk down to submissives in order to feel they have the position of control.
And treating a submissive as a human being is a sign of self respect and strength.


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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


("Condescending"? Well, Dommes generally DO talk down to subs, it's part of the "job" description, so to speak.)

If males don't like the strict rules I place in their way then they simply aren't the type I seek and they are free to find some woman who makes things EASY for them. Let them climb over the walls and jump some hurdles if they want to see My "nice" side....and there are plenty of male subs psychologically robust enough to make it through to meet the real Me. My message box has been non-stop busy since I set up My profile back in September. I've found some very good friends/subs because they braved the barriers and were the type I sought. OMG, I hate to think how many freaking JUNK messages I'd have to sift through if I'd put up a PRETTY photo of Myself and used "FRIENDLY" wording!
If you guys are too thin-skinned to handle her talking down to you and demanding you follow some rules, you shouldn't be looking for a Domme. Better to see Her "mean" side BEFORE you approach Her, than to be suddenly surprised when She brings it out AFTER you are tied up and helpless.

To the OP, I guess the big issue is this: Are you getting the RESULTS--responses from the TYPE of sub you seek--with your profile the way is has been? If yes, LEAVE IT....if no, then CHANGE IT. EASY PEASY!

--MM





frazzle -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 9:13:10 PM)

Not sub male, but gave up reading. too long.
I feel so sorry for sub males. if a sub male listed their wants, they are "do me's". If a sub female does the same, and doesnt get them, theyve ignored red flags,




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/26/2013 9:31:25 PM)

Some submissives WANT to be talked down to, humiliated, CONTROLED, to enhance their experience. THIS THEY TELL ME THEMSELVES (YES, *gasp* I actually TALK to My subs, and get FEEDBACK about how they are feeling about experiences. What better way to learn what works for them?). Underneath everything, My subs KNOW they have My respect. We have a friendship...however we are involved in TPE D/s, and anything I can do to help them achieve the feeling of being CONTROLED psychologically, I will do. It's not an "ego trip" for Me, that's simply part of OUR interaction. If you and yours prefer to stand side by side as EQUALS, then certainly do so. People gravitate toward relationships that work for them. What works for you wouldn't work for My subs. We DISCUSS our dynamics during the Trust-building phase and instead of DEMANDING, SCREECHING and ABUSING, I ease them into a submissive role (not FAST enough for SOME actually, as I've found)

Anyway, that bait's looking rather flavorless tonight and I think we've wandered far away from the OP's topic, which was how to improve Her profile. It looks like She's made some changes that people approve of.........so, I suppose we've done our part and all that is left is to wait a couple weeks and see if it works.

GOOD LUCK, Baroana!

--MM



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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Excuse me, however not ALL Dommes find it necessary to talk down to submissives in order to feel they have the position of control.
And treating a submissive as a human being is a sign of self respect and strength.


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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


("Condescending"? Well, Dommes generally DO talk down to subs, it's part of the "job" description, so to speak.)

If males don't like the strict rules I place in their way then they simply aren't the type I seek and they are free to find some woman who makes things EASY for them. Let them climb over the walls and jump some hurdles if they want to see My "nice" side....and there are plenty of male subs psychologically robust enough to make it through to meet the real Me. My message box has been non-stop busy since I set up My profile back in September. I've found some very good friends/subs because they braved the barriers and were the type I sought. OMG, I hate to think how many freaking JUNK messages I'd have to sift through if I'd put up a PRETTY photo of Myself and used "FRIENDLY" wording!
If you guys are too thin-skinned to handle her talking down to you and demanding you follow some rules, you shouldn't be looking for a Domme. Better to see Her "mean" side BEFORE you approach Her, than to be suddenly surprised when She brings it out AFTER you are tied up and helpless.

To the OP, I guess the big issue is this: Are you getting the RESULTS--responses from the TYPE of sub you seek--with your profile the way is has been? If yes, LEAVE IT....if no, then CHANGE IT. EASY PEASY!

--MM







Duskypearls -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/27/2013 12:24:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Why do people go out of their way to make their profile text unreadable by using a dark font on a dark background?????


They think it's Domly.


Not Domly, but Dumly!




LafayetteLady -> RE: Now *I* need profile advice! (1/27/2013 8:07:40 AM)

I like the re-worded one. You sound like you are a person, not just a domme. Which is, of course, as it should be.




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