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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 10:51:15 AM

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That is K-L-I-N-G-O-N...and your wrong

It's not klingon, it's a made up language that is used by people who have no balls or maturity so they can toss an insult at someone without being flayed or banned by the mods.

How close am I?

The snow storm on East Coast is warmer then you.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_Language_Institute

First you say it isn't klingon and then you post a link to a bunch of people who are such losers decided that klingon should be a language.

Make up your mind will you? You've told so many untruths that you forgot who you told what to.

You claim to be Gorean. I thought that was all about honor. What does pathologically lying and dressing up like "Hagar the obese" have to do with honor?

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 10:52:07 AM

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That is K-L-I-N-G-O-N...and your wrong

It's not klingon, it's a made up language that is used by people who have no balls or maturity so they can toss an insult at someone without being flayed or banned by the mods.

How close am I?

The snow storm on East Coast is warmer then you.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_Language_Institute

First you say it isn't klingon and then you post a link to a bunch of people who are such losers decided that klingon should be a language.

Make up your mind will you? You've told so many untruths that you forgot who you told what to.

You claim to be Gorean. I thought that was all about honor. What does pathologically lying and dressing up like "Hagar the obese" have to do with honor?

Exactly what I expected. Jr High behavior.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 10:58:01 AM

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"Exactly what I expected. Jr High behavior."

Translaton: "I don't have any idea of what is going on"

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 11:23:45 AM

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The British Isles are made up of 4 soverign nations - England, Ireland, Scotland & Wales. But they're not separate on all things - like sport, such as when the British Lions (rugby) tour Oz - a composite team chosen from the best of all 4 countries.

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Now for a Brit to score me outa 10....

I'd say eight out of ten, Focus, and a merit badge! Some shakiness only on Ireland versus Northern Ireland.

Here is a brief summation which may help all who are having trouble with the various terms. Sent, ironically, by an Aussie friend who found it funny (as did I):

http://geekyjessica.tumblr.com/post/42305874651/riverasongx-notesofgratitude

If you can't remember all that, just remember that 'British' doesn't mean just 'English'. That's the bare minimum to get by.

That is what you get for changing what you call yourselves every hundred years. You are los ingleses (The English) to us, and have been for 500 years.

And even the people in the UK cannot decide among themselves what to name each other - Rules, Britannia - Step warily: it’s a linguistic morass.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 1:28:02 PM

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The suicide rates for the U.S. are slightly higher than Australia so it seems having guns does not make those totals change very much...in your willingness to try to impose your feelings against guns you are not seeing that someone that wants to take their live will do so,gun or no gun.So quit trying to blame the instrument used in a suicide instead of blaming poor mental help in both our countries.

Geeezus, what are you, like 8 yrs old????

You do understand the concept of having a discussion, right? Cos I'm really not preparing to storm your borders no matter how defensive you're determined to act! And I've already expressed my views on suicide TO *YOU*, personally and pre-emptively. And I quote, "Yes, I do agree that suicide is not about the means used." Then discussed "means & opportunity" - the prevalence and availability of guns....

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You also seem to ignore the fact that most of the other gun deaths in the U.S. are criminals killing other criminals,usually over drugs or gang related.Yes,the U.S. has a drug problem but it looks like outlawing drugs hasn't stopped them from importing/making drugs so what makes you think outlawing guns will work? Since you seem to know how to do everything right,how about we do like the U.K. did a while back and send our criminals to Australia...let's see how well you can handle thousands of Crips,Bloods and hundreds of other street gangs.After the verdict in the Rodney King beating trial,numerous of Califorians rushed to buy guns to defend themselves only to find out there was a waiting period and they weren't happy to find out the laws applied to them as well.Somehow I think Australians might feel the same way if the same situation happened in a major city there.

Crims killing other crims? This is like Nature's balance so doesn't count? And the US has a drug problem? I'd venture every country on the entire planet has a drug problem...! But of the western nations, only the US provides the means & opportunity for gangs to equip themselves with the heavy firepower that enables and escalates the violence and thus, gun death rate. And when crims shoot it out with each other (you know, Nature's way), you don't think there are times when innocents get caught in the crossfire? It's that little nasty they sanitise with the term "collateral damage"....

Pretty much the rest of this tosh is old hat...! Your answer to the US gun problem, the same as most American gun-humpers, is to throw more guns at it. How's that workin' out to date?

Okay, just peachy - IF your business is making or selling guns & ammo....

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Since you seem so bent on saving each person from themselves,how about you start lobbying the Australian government to ban tobacco and alcohol? Smoking-related diseases killed 14,900 Australians in 2004-05. This means there were 40 preventable deaths every day .In Australia:Alcohol is second only to tobacco as a preventable cause of drug-related death and hospitalisation
between 1992 and 2001, more than 31,000 deaths were attributed to risky or high-risk alcohol consumption
in the eight years between 1993–94 and 2000–01, over half a million completed hospital episodes were associated with alcohol.Neither of these have any good use besides killing millions worldwide...yet I don't see you wanting to ban them.I guess you are too busy out shooting your neighbors cats with YOUR gun,huh.

Figgers you can't stick to one topic. Anyway, if your point is that the US or any other country doesn't have substance abuse problems, or they do but less so than Oz, where's those stats for comparison?

Otherwise, this is just a transparent diversion for you to duck reality and the hard questions. ie, you're rattled, and I'm enjoying it...!

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 1:52:31 PM

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I'd say eight out of ten, Focus, and a merit badge! Some shakiness only on Ireland versus Northern Ireland.

Okay, I didn't know Ireland and Northern Ireland were actually separate countries. Figured that was just a line on a map (or "in the sand") for expressing mutual niceties.

And I guess they don't play international rugby up north...?

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 2:04:39 PM

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I'd say eight out of ten, Focus, and a merit badge! Some shakiness only on Ireland versus Northern Ireland.

Okay, I didn't know Ireland and Northern Ireland were actually separate countries. Figured that was just a line on a map (or "in the sand") for expressing mutual niceties.

And I guess they don't play international rugby up north...?

Focus.

England "gave" (kinda like they "gave" us independence) the Irish Repubic independence. Thought it would get rid of all the Catholic "trouble makers" and we all know were that led.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 3:21:44 PM

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Lying Gorean
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Is still a liar

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 3:37:03 PM

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Lying Gorean
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Well Hillwilliam if you wanted another picture of me all you had to do was ask nicely.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 3:47:57 PM

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Lying Gorean
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Well Hillwilliam if you wanted another picture of me all you had to do was ask nicely.

No, I didn't. That just shows your abilities of comprehension.

ETA. Why did you assume "Lying Gorean" meant you?

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 5:22:56 PM

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And I quote, "Yes, I do agree that suicide is not about the means used."

Then what are you...5? If you agree suicide is not about the means used then why do you keep trying to add them in with intentional gun deaths?

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And when crims shoot it out with each other (you know, Nature's way), you don't think there are times when innocents get caught in the crossfire?

Of course there are times innocents are killed,never denied it either.But instead of taking away a law abiding citizen's Second Amendment right,how about locking criminals in prison for their full sentenses instead of slapping them on the wrist and telling them to go forth and sin no more.From your thoughts,you want to punish the vast majority of law abiding gun owners by taking away their guns or turning them into criminals if they keep them.Answer me this..we have laws on the books right now in every state that increase prison terms if a gun is used in a crime.Do you actually think by outlawing guns,a criminal will suddenly get religion and willingly stop using a gun in commision of a crime and turn their's in?

And please show me where I have said to throw more guns into the mix...all I have said is banning guns will not help.

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Otherwise, this is just a transparent diversion for you to duck reality and the hard questions. ie, you're rattled, and I'm enjoying it...!

Let's see who is ducking questions here.You seem to be so concerned for your fellow man,how about outlawing tobacco and alcohol.They both kill more world wide than guns[excluding war deaths] so where's your compassion now? I don't drink or smoke but I believe each person has their own choice to make.So if you want to take away everyone's guns,why not take away tobacco and alcohol as well since they are killers too? Speaking of ducking questions,you keep ignoring me asking why it is ok for you to have a gun to kill your neighbors cats with.Why not go turn it in and live gun free?

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 5:29:02 PM

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"Hagar the obese"...heh....love it!

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You claim to be Gorean. I thought that was all about honor. What does pathologically lying and dressing up like "Hagar the obese" have to do with honor?

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 7:09:33 PM

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If you agree suicide is not about the means used then why do you keep trying to add them in with intentional gun deaths?

Ok, since you're not even able to grasp that I'm not the one who compiles gun stats or that the same method applies uniformly to every country, I can only conclude you're an overtly defensive, paranoid nitwit and I'm pretty much done trying to reason with you.

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Of course there are times innocents are killed,never denied it either.But instead of taking away a law abiding citizen's Second Amendment right,how about locking criminals in prison for their full sentenses instead of slapping them on the wrist and telling them to go forth and sin no more.From your thoughts,you want to punish the vast majority of law abiding gun owners by taking away their guns or turning them into criminals if they keep them.Answer me this..we have laws on the books right now in every state that increase prison terms if a gun is used in a crime.Do you actually think by outlawing guns,a criminal will suddenly get religion and willingly stop using a gun in commision of a crime and turn their's in? And please show me where I have said to throw more guns into the mix...all I have said is banning guns will not help.

This is all covered in the 2 recent gun threads. You said you participated there, and I'm sure as hell not repainting the same wall just to accommodate a blockhead like you. This is NOT a gun topic. If you really wanna talk guns, I've got about 50 posts in Level's thread entitled "Guns" in this same Forum. Go read them and post *there* and I'll see what you've got - though I'm mighty sure I've already got the gist.

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Let's see who is ducking questions here.You seem to be so concerned for your fellow man,how about outlawing tobacco and alcohol.They both kill more world wide than guns[excluding war deaths] so where's your compassion now? I don't drink or smoke but I believe each person has their own choice to make.So if you want to take away everyone's guns,why not take away tobacco and alcohol as well since they are killers too? Speaking of ducking questions,you keep ignoring me asking why it is ok for you to have a gun to kill your neighbors cats with.Why not go turn it in and live gun free?

And on, and on, and onnnn....! Don't know anything about killing a neighbour's cat, I'm not anti-gun, I'm not especially concerned with my fellow man and you still haven't provided your US per-capita stats for comparison with the Oz stats on alcohol & tobacco. One thing though, we don't have or need a law enforcement agency that specifically targets Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms - ATF.

Now I'm done doing the heavy lifting while you just make shit up as you go along. You're all talk and no substance - time to ante up or shut tha fuck up! Blow-hards always choose option 3 - neither.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 9:52:28 PM

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"Hagar the obese"...heh....love it!

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You claim to be Gorean. I thought that was all about honor. What does pathologically lying and dressing up like "Hagar the obese" have to do with honor?

And I thought you were not going to talk to me ....admit it you miss me.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/9/2013 11:38:36 PM

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And when crims shoot it out with each other (you know, Nature's way), you don't think there are times when innocents get caught in the crossfire? [/quote]
Of course there are times innocents are killed,never denied it either.But instead of taking away a law abiding citizen's Second Amendment right,how about locking criminals in prison for their full sentenses instead of slapping them on the wrist and telling them to go forth and sin no more.From your thoughts,you want to punish the vast majority of law abiding gun owners by taking away their guns or turning them into criminals if they keep them.Answer me this..we have laws on the books right now in every state that increase prison terms if a gun is used in a crime.Do you actually think by how about outlawing tobacco and alcohol.They both kill more world wide than guns

It true for now that alcohol and tobacco related deaths are higher but I have never heard of anyone being forced to take them. Criminals shooting each other is "Nature's Way" now that is a far strech. It is interesting that a report states that by 2015 gun death will out number the number of traffic deaths:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.htm

If this happens, I think in time unless changes are made gun deaths will surpass alcohol and tobacco as well.

Now as to your claim about prision...the US has 2.3 million people incarcerated, that is the highest world wide. So you claim of slapping criminal on the wrist is just your opinion. Oh another thing to consider on prisons, they are not over crowed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Finally all those law bidding citizen's Second Admendment rights and all, Raul Rodriguez, Donald Montanez, James Patrick Wonder, and Micheal Dunn, I could go on, all members of the law bidding citizen's you and other speak so highly, all convicted of murder (except Micheal Dunn his 1st Degree Murder trial has not began) while they excerised they 2nd Admendment rights...none had a criminal past nor history of mental illness.....so much for law bidding gun owners.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/10/2013 12:31:51 AM

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After the verdict in the Rodney King beating trial,numerous of Califorians rushed to buy guns to defend themselves only to find out there was a waiting period and they weren't happy to find out the laws applied to them as well.

Having lived through the riots where do you get your information I don't recall any body rushing to the gun stores. The riots started on April 29, 1992, the same day just hours after the jury found the officer not guilty. Where was the time to go to the gun store? The 10 day waiting period was ineffect a year before the riot and everyone knew about it. You seem to do alot of exaggerating.

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/10/2013 10:00:23 AM

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And I guess they don't play international rugby up north...?

Apparently, NI and SI field a joint team. Well, I never knew that before!

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/10/2013 11:32:54 AM

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And I guess they don't play international rugby up north...?

Apparently, NI and SI field a joint team. Well, I never knew that before!

Lol, so they CAN get along (at least on the sporting field)...! Actually, more than "get along" as they're arguably the best of the Brit nations. Seem to recall something about a stunning upset in the last World Cup, too, but the finer details (and opposition) are too distant a memory.... <ahem>

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/10/2013 11:36:59 AM

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Esperanto and Volupak are also made up languages, but people actually speak Klingon.
(IIRC, there are more Klingon speakers worldwide than people who speak Gaelic or Finnish. Certainly the language was designed by a linguist and has been used in experiments to investigate the development of language skills.)

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RE: In an effort to find some common ground. - 2/10/2013 11:40:47 AM

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Lol, so they CAN get along (at least on the sporting field)...! Actually, more than "get along" as they're arguably the best of the Brit nations. Seem to recall something about a stunning upset in the last World Cup, too, but the finer details (and opposition) are too distant a memory.... <ahem>

I wouldn't know about football - I barely follow that at all. Never played it at school. As for rugby - that has a completely different atmosphere surrounding it over here. Supporters of all teams have more of 'friendly rivalry' thing going on. English supporters will sit in pubs boozing with people from whichever nation whose rugby team is playing - and they'll just joke at at each other. It's a lot of fun, really.

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