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There's remnants of a few middle eastern and Chinese boats that predate Christ cheerfully rotting away in museums, are there not?

yup but do ya not thunk wooden ships survivin' from 3000 bc are uncommon?

the remains of a 4000 year old ship were found in Egypt with timbers in good shape.

The flood of Noah supposedly took place about 2348 BCE, which means that the Egyptian pyramids and ruins are nothing more than holograms.

sometimes wood survives in particular conditions but the exception rather than da rule. even if it survived it would still need ta be discovered so its absence cant be used against da story. thought the flood is dated between 3,200 an 2,900 BC.

If you take the time when the flood happened, about 1650 years after creation, and figure in the ages of the patriarchs, it ends up being around 2348 BCE.

Even if we take your period, between 3,200 and 2,900 BCE, we have a problem with the ruins of thriving civilizations that were growing since 4000 BCE with no break, add to that the early Egyptian ruins...

Which means that the ruins dated to the time of the flood are nothing but holograms projected by aliens to fool us.

dont buy inta the 6000 yr old earth r strict biblical dating unless we accept noah really was 600 yrs old lol. way i see it is that egyptian history begins after 3000 bc an' a bit earlier wit sumer so some dating clash but not that much. some folks date da great flood ta just before da big cities of sumer & there is arch evidence of a flood dat may tie in wit noah.

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It is a waste of time, effort and he thinks he is always right anyway.

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Can somebody explain to the guy that

It is a waste of time, effort and he thinks he is always right anyway.

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Please note my comments about various ruins and the pyramids being elaborate alien produced holograms.

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If you take the time when the flood happened, about 1650 years after creation, and figure in the ages of the patriarchs, it ends up being around 2348 BCE.

Even if we take your period, between 3,200 and 2,900 BCE, we have a problem with the ruins of thriving civilizations that were growing since 4000 BCE with no break, add to that the early Egyptian ruins...

Which means that the ruins dated to the time of the flood are nothing but holograms projected by aliens to fool us.

dont buy inta the 6000 yr old earth r strict biblical dating unless we accept noah really was 600 yrs old lol. way i see it is that egyptian history begins after 3000 bc an' a bit earlier wit sumer so some dating clash but not that much. some folks date da great flood ta just before da big cities of sumer & there is arch evidence of a flood dat may tie in wit noah.

Please note my comments about various ruins and the pyramids being elaborate alien produced holograms.

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If you take the time when the flood happened, about 1650 years after creation, and figure in the ages of the patriarchs, it ends up being around 2348 BCE.

Even if we take your period, between 3,200 and 2,900 BCE, we have a problem with the ruins of thriving civilizations that were growing since 4000 BCE with no break, add to that the early Egyptian ruins...

Which means that the ruins dated to the time of the flood are nothing but holograms projected by aliens to fool us.

dont buy inta the 6000 yr old earth r strict biblical dating unless we accept noah really was 600 yrs old lol. way i see it is that egyptian history begins after 3000 bc an' a bit earlier wit sumer so some dating clash but not that much. some folks date da great flood ta just before da big cities of sumer & there is arch evidence of a flood dat may tie in wit noah.

Please note my comments about various ruins and the pyramids being elaborate alien produced holograms.

took yer comment bout holograms as a rebuttal coz ya said civilisation started bout 4000 bc after i said da floods came later. sense of humor fail?

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I am Hugh Hefner's long lost twin grandchild brother.

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Can somebody explain to the guy that

It is a waste of time, effort and he thinks he is always right anyway.

My money is on Kirata.

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You are Immanuel Velikovsky

And you are a Moonhead. [:D]

K.

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I've always believed that evolution was absolutely a fact. I also believe that it's God's way of protecting creatures from the hazards of living.

So, I've always been an Intelligent Evolutionist?



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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I've always believed that evolution was absolutely a fact. I also believe that it's God's way of protecting creatures from the hazards of living.

So, I've always been an Intelligent Evolutionist?



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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I've always believed that evolution was absolutely a fact. I also believe that it's God's way of protecting creatures from the hazards of living.

So, I've always been an Intelligent Evolutionist?



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Some estimate that more than 90% of all species have gone extinct. If that is god's way of protecting against the hazards of life he is sorry-ass inept at his job.

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This is a thread about creationists who have a very literal belief in the factuality of these fictional stories, a position which he acknowledges is really stupid.

Actually, this is a thread about creationists who don't believe in evolution. You'll find the clue to this obscure fact hidden in the OP. I realize, of course, that you'd rather it be about something else, and I'll admit that recent threads haven't provided you with much opportunity to enjoy your favorite pastime of raking the Bible for not being "factual". But life's like that sometimes, and two stupidities aren't better than one.

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This is a thread about creationists who have a very literal belief in the factuality of these fictional stories, a position which he acknowledges is really stupid.

Actually, this is a thread about creationists who don't believe in evolution. You'll find the clue to this obscure fact hidden in the OP. I realize, of course, that you'd rather it be about something else, and I'll admit that recent threads haven't provided you with much opportunity to enjoy your favorite pastime of raking the Bible for not being "factual". But life's like that sometimes, and two stupidities aren't better than one.

The literal reading of the Bible is the wellspring of Creationism. Fundamentalist christians who promote Creationism as an alternative to Evolution have taken exception to any attempt to portray Genesis as myth. Raking the Bible for not being factual is a legitimate counterpoint. To claim otherwise is an obfuscation of the debate. A not very clever attempt to turn the debate onto the motives of the debaters of one side. Attacking the opponent is a certain sign your position in the debate is shallow at best. But then, that's what you do, Kirata. [:-]

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This is a thread about creationists who have a very literal belief in the factuality of these fictional stories, a position which he acknowledges is really stupid.

Actually, this is a thread about creationists who don't believe in evolution. You'll find the clue to this obscure fact hidden in the OP. I realize, of course, that you'd rather it be about something else, and I'll admit that recent threads haven't provided you with much opportunity to enjoy your favorite pastime of raking the Bible for not being "factual". But life's like that sometimes, and two stupidities aren't better than one.

K.