RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (Full Version)

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Baroana -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 6:51:38 PM)

I can't speak for others, but for me, yes.



ResidentSadist -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 6:59:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thracia

It's no fun dominating an idiot with the IQ of a fuck doll.


To each their own. I know some guys that collect dumbass bimbos . . . you do not have to be a genius to have feminine charms or to know how to please a man. Despite the claims of many frustrated, inept, web bound snerts that don't get out of the house or have social skills, who say relationships are hard, they aren't.

I wouldn't want a dipshit as a partner but hey, in a nice poly, there is a little room for latitude and not everyone has to be an Einstein.



LadyPact -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 7:10:33 PM)

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I couldn't deal with somebody who didn't have a brain in their head. Plenty of you folks have seen that I can get snippy when somebody isn't the sharpest crayon in the box. Can you just imagine what I'd be like in person if I thought someone was an utter twit?

Thankfully, that doesn't happen often because we all have strengths and weaknesses. I also believe that intelligence has different manifestations. Book smart, common sense, problem solving, mechanical aptitude, etc, etc.

For a couple of years, I was like a magnet for engineers. I never understood that.



DarkSteven -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 7:13:45 PM)

As a Dom, I'm responsible for my sub. I don't want to have to spend tremendous effort fixing all the dumbshit things she does.



MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 7:38:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I couldn't deal with somebody who didn't have a brain in their head. Plenty of you folks have seen that I can get snippy when somebody isn't the sharpest crayon in the box. Can you just imagine what I'd be like in person if I thought someone was an utter twit?

Thankfully, that doesn't happen often because we all have strengths and weaknesses. I also believe that intelligence has different manifestations. Book smart, common sense, problem solving, mechanical aptitude, etc, etc.

For a couple of years, I was like a magnet for engineers. I never understood that.


Well said! And at least in MY experience many male subs tend to be business owners, executives, or others in high-stress situations, usually very well educated or at least highly skilled in something.

--MM



DesFIP -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 7:54:40 PM)

Just because they're kinky doesn't mean they have good communication skills. In fact, there's a sizable number who don't and want to be in charge in order not to have to do so. They aren't capable of explaining themselves nor of listening to the other person's point of view. So they want someone to submit so they don't have to deal with the other person being unhappy.



TAFKAA -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 10:04:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Etruscano

Is a blowjob from a fuck doll any less satisfying than from a Nobel laureate?
Yes. The fuckslut lacks options. It's about as satisfying as conquering breakfast.



MusicInstr78 -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 10:16:36 PM)

Of course they do or at least I hope they do...I can only speak for myself though



AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 11:00:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Here's the thing. Those Doms/Dommes who want a RELATIONSHIP want someone who is intelligent.

Those Doms/Dommes just looking to get laid and nothing else at all don't want someone intelligent. The dumber the better.

That's always been my experience at least and no not just bdsm wise but people in general. It's always been this way and always will.



Pretty much this with a caveat:

Very few people will admit to wanting a stupid partner. More or less everyone will say they want someone intelligent. It wouldn't reflect so well on them if they said they like a person without a brain. It might suggest that they are looking for just an easy lay, or that they can't hold a conversation with a smart person, or they want someone they can manipulate and feel superior to.

Also, like sense of humour, intelligence is somewhat subjective. Other than the really exceptional people on either end of the scale, most people will be smart in one respect and not in another. My mother is fantastic with technology and numbers, but she frequently muddles up her words when speaking which might make people think she's stupid. My dad is a businessman and very verbally articulate but dyslexic, so if you only saw his writing you might think otherwise. I've met people who seem very worldly-wise and then parrot back whatever biased crap they read in the tabloids this morning. So if you're rating people via IQ, some of us here must have partners at the lower end of the scale, but that doesn't mean they aren't intelligent in a different way.

Perhaps I will undermine my previous point with this - when an intelligent person says 'intelligent' they are meaning someone who will challenge them intellectually, hold a debate, and be open to new learning. When a less intelligent person says it, they generally mean 'someone who thinks like me'. I've certainly met people who will call anyone who disagrees with them stupid, even when they can't defend their own side of the argument.

It's just another way of looking at compatibility.



seekingreality -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/1/2013 11:05:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

I would think that any Dom or Domme or Master or Mistress would want their sub / slave to be intelligent
and articulate, and yes a good communicator.



Doms and dommes are no different than any other people. Some are smart, some are idiots. Some are fit, some are not. Some are good conversationalists, some are not. They cross the spectrum. I don't know why you would assume dom/mes would have a uniform view on anything, let anyone what they want from a partner. In fact, I don't even get what point you are trying to make with this thread.



EsotericLady -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 6:50:51 AM)

I perfectly understand where the OP is coming from and why he is asking what he is.

And yes, one of my "requirements" for being attracted to a particular submission is that he be intelligent....

as in can hold a conversation of some importance (beyond discussing the latest bachelorette or who got voted off some island), is aware of what is going on in the world, has various interests that require some knowledge and study, is able to form complete and understandable sentences, can point out South America on a map, is able to calculate 10% without a calculator, can READ, etc.



Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 7:44:08 AM)

I know a few people that have very high IQ's. I can barely hold a conversation with them because they do too much technical talk. Funny thing is I find that most of them have very little common sense.

My mother while she does not have a genius IQ she is very smart, but so many times I shake my head and wonder how the hell she manages to live on her own without help. She can get through college and continue her education with awesome grades but it feels like she is clueless on some of the more simple things that are more common sense. I threatened to take her computer away from her when she was talking to some guy online and falling for everything he told her. Then she nearly sent him money when he asked for a few hundred. My lands.



MissBlueangel -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 8:01:48 AM)

Well judging by the messages I get from "Doms" on the 'other side'...they would shit themselves if a sub was intelligent.
* ah well a single life for me *[;)]



TenderTorment -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 8:14:26 AM)

I find intelligence attractive, but only when coupled with common sense, I've met people who could tell me the square root of a can of soup but who would then struggle to open it!! It's all about balance for me.



TopToBottom13 -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 10:26:07 AM)

If I am looking for a meaningful relationship in any venue, intelligence is a must. Through my life, men have been intimidated by my intelligence. If a person can't go toe to toe with me in an intellectual capacity, then I won't play with them as a top or bottom. Simple as that!

If I'm looking for no strings rough sex, dumb is ok!



JeffBC -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 11:30:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77
I would think that any Dom or Domme or Master or Mistress would want their sub / slave to be intelligent and articulate, and yes a good communicator.

Oddly, none of those things were on my list of qualifiers when I met Carol. Nor was "big boobies" or "able to hoover a cock". I'm was -- and am -- more interested in matters of character.



sexyred1 -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 11:34:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

It's been my experience that most appreciate intelligence. Some are threatened by a submissive that is more intelligent than they are and a select few are threatened when any intelligence is displayed.


Totally agree. I think it is the PC thing to say you want an intelligent partner, but when faced with the reality, it is a different story.



MistressDarkArt -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 5:33:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TenderTorment

I find intelligence attractive, but only when coupled with common sense, I've met people who could tell me the square root of a can of soup but who would then struggle to open it!! It's all about balance for me.


Me too ^^^^



littlewonder -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 5:46:50 PM)

When I say I am attracted to someone who is intelligent, I don't mean someone who will challenge or debate with me. I mean someone that can add to the conversation, who has information to bring to the topic that we can bounce off of each other. I have a daughter who only ever wants to challenge and debate me and imo, that's exhausting and annoying. After awhile I just shut down and stop talking. My last sentence is usually "Ok, whatever" and walk away.




theRose4U -> RE: Do Dom's, Dommes' , Masters, Mistresses want their Sub Slave to be Intelligent? (2/2/2013 7:31:36 PM)

I don't know that many subs are this way, but the ones I'm interested in certainly are
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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I couldn't deal with somebody who didn't have a brain in their head. Plenty of you folks have seen that I can get snippy when somebody isn't the sharpest crayon in the box. Can you just imagine what I'd be like in person if I thought someone was an utter twit?

Thankfully, that doesn't happen often because we all have strengths and weaknesses. I also believe that intelligence has different manifestations. Book smart, common sense, problem solving, mechanical aptitude, etc, etc.

For a couple of years, I was like a magnet for engineers. I never understood that.


Well said! And at least in MY experience many male subs tend to be business owners, executives, or others in high-stress situations, usually very well educated or at least highly skilled in something.

--MM




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