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Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 11:43:55 AM

EsotericLady

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Hello everyone! : )

First of all, I'd like anyone reading this to know that I'm TRULY not being ridiculous in presenting this question for discussion...nor attempting to appear rude, sarcastic, nor singling anyone out in ANY way!!!

I've honestly and sincerely wondered about something for quite some time now...and that is how people who are into corporal punishment, stapling, body lacings, brandings, and various forms of physical alterations handle exposing these things to the medical profession. Do you warn the nurse or physician ahead of time? Do you carry some kind of note with you that says the alterations are not due to any nonconsensual abuse, should you arrive somewhere unconscious?

I've seen some intriguing things people have been into... for instance, body lacing (lacing ribbon through embedded metal clasps in the skin.) I wonder how this is handled in emergency situations such as heart attacks or in surgeries.

I would be especially interested in hearing experiences from people who have found themselves in these situations.

(Thank you for your input!)
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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 11:57:55 AM

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Contrary to popular opinion, you are not, in fact, a special snowflake, and they have seen it before.

Just explain items of concern as they pop up, and no one will care.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 11:57:55 AM

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My primary care doctor is actually lifestyle friendly.
So was my therapist.

At one point I wanted to get a brand.
I actually spoke with my doctor about it before hand.

I have a close friend who wears a thick metal collar with a lock.
She actually wears a copy of the key on a long chain around her neck as well. The key dangles between her breast. Rather sexy IMO.
Her owner also has a copy of the key so does her sister who is her second ER contact.

I know a guy who had 5 PA piercings.
He ended up on the ER one night.
He needed surgery, the nurses had a heck of a time removing them.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 12:21:26 PM

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~FR~

To be honest, in a serious emergency situation, the last thing a medical professional is concerned with is that funny piercing. Unless it directly interferes with what they need to do to save your life, then they won't be worried about it at that point in time. The main things in emergency situations that could cause immediate issue - that I can think of off the top of my head - are collars (may cause airway restriction) and metal piercings (interfere in radiographs and MRI scans). Those, like anything else I've missed, will be assessed and worked around, or removed if required.

If it's for planned or minor surgeries and tests, the medical professional will likely give you instructions ahead of time which will allow you to remove your various decorations or warn them of any body modifications, if that is what's required. For example, people going for dental OPT radiographs are asked beforehand to remove tongue piercings, earrings, necklaces, metal dentures and any other metalwork worn above the collarbone, as these could be caught on the radiograph and cause a "starburst" effect, rendering it useless. So, in that case, if you have, for example, a locked metal collar on, you can make sure to have it removed before attending for the radiograph.

Sure, a medical professional may be concerned if you're repeatedly turning up with marks that they would see as "traditional signs of abuse" but, as we're all adults, your explanation will go a long way towards putting their mind at ease if they ask about them. It would be different if you were a child turning up with similar cuts, bruises or weals, sure... but pretty much anything goes as an adult; they're not there to judge.

So would I inform my GP, or carry a bit of paper on me in order to inform the ER staff should something dire happen to me? Nope. If they need to they'll deal with it at the time, and any explanations required can be given later, once they've stopped me from dying.

And anyway, they've probably seen it all before!

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 4:11:11 PM

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Some pretty good responses here already, Not a lot I can add that hasn't already been said.

Apart from the old joke about the man taken to A/E with 6 plastic toy horses lodged in his rectum....Dr's described his condition as stable.

Sorry, couldn't resist lol.

**Edit to add.....I was not the aforementioned man**

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 4:40:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TenderTorment

**Edit to add.....I was not the aforementioned man**

Uh huh I am not buying that!

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 4:46:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

quote:

ORIGINAL: TenderTorment

**Edit to add.....I was not the aforementioned man**

Uh huh I am not buying that!

lol...damn it....caught out again

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 5:24:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz
Contrary to popular opinion, you are not, in fact, a special snowflake, and they have seen it before.

LOL... yeah that. I pretty much figure that anything I can even conceive of is boring crap to a medical worker.

We don't do any SM but for a while it was something on the agenda. So being the proactive sort, I just went to Carol's doctor with her one time and broached the subject directly.... "We're considering doing kinky shit in the bedroom and it may leave marks. Are you comfortable with that?"

What I got back was a professional "yes" but it was clear that this particular doctor was NOT comfortable. Had we gone forward I'd have gotten a new physician for her. I kind of need my medical professionals to be OK with the human body.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 5:38:25 PM

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I had a GYN exam the day after a very intense scene. While I was still dressed, I disclaimed, "You're going to see bruises. I'm into S&M and they were consensual."

She was fine.

I had a masseuse who saw much lighter, in fact, very faint marks, and was not fine about it.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 6:05:42 PM

HarryVanWinkle

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Q. How many perverts does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A. Only one. But it takes the entire staff of the ER to get it out again.

The stories below are not jokes.

I once had a complete physical at a local hospital the day after getting a very heavy flogging. My back was very bruised. The person who gave me the flogging went with me. I don't know if it was the huge, shit eating grin on our faces or not, but nobody at the hospital said a word about it.

I once got a PA (Prince Albert) piercing during a play party. A couple of weeks later, the area of the piercing was getting very red and sore and I was afraid it was getting infected. Not wanting to take any risks in that area, I went to the VA hospital to get it checked out. The person who checked it out was a very lovely PA (Physicians Assistant.) After telling me that it wasn't infected and looked to be healing fine, she asked me, "Didn't that hurt?"

Something about the way I said, "Yes!" got a good laugh from her.

I once had an appointment with my doctor while I was locked into a CB-2000. While I did have an emergency key, I debated whether I should consider that an emergency. I finally decided not to, as even if my doctor saw it, what was she going to do about it, tell my mommy?

When dealing medical people, honesty really is the best policy. You don't have to say, "So and so did this and I had a great time." If they ask and seem like they might suspect abuse, the answer to give is "Consensual sexual role-play." If the police are called, hold to that line and name no names. They can't arrest you for having BEEN beaten and they can't force you to identify who did it.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 6:07:33 PM

NiceButMeanGirl

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My nurse practitioner is kink-aware and kink-friendly so I have no problems. I used to go to a different professional in the same office and that person was uptight and judgmental so I switched to my present ARNP. No more problems. Plus, I'm the Domme, so I don't have a lot of marks.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:03:04 PM

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about three months ago I had to get some minor surgery done. When I got to the hospital and put my gown on, the nurse came in and noticed my bruises, cuts, etc....

So of course, she started asking me questions and I started laughing hysterically and I couldn't stop laughing. In between laughs I just told her we enjoyed rough, kinky sex. She just kinda rolled her eyes and said, "Well, by law I have to ask ya know, but by the sounds of your laughter, I don't think you're being harmed." hahaha.

I told Master about it afterwards and he just thought it was funny.

I've also been to my gyn and I told her the same thing. The only thing she said to me was "doesn't that hurt???" LOL.

So yeah, I've yet to have any problems with it. It all comes down to how YOU react when asked. If you're relaxed and calm about it and just shrug it off, so will they.

ETA: oh and as for my "collars" aka my bracelets and any body jewelry I may have at the time, I just remove it all and put it with my belongings. No big deal. Like others have said, it's really no big deal.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:40:02 PM

EsotericLady

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WOW! What did I deserve to get THAT remark? LOL

I don't think I am any "special snowflake" when it comes to anything! And the scenario I described is NOT because I have experienced it myself.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Contrary to popular opinion, you are not, in fact, a special snowflake, and they have seen it before.

Just explain items of concern as they pop up, and no one will care.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:43:40 PM

EsotericLady

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OMG, Tender! That was sooooooo bad!!!!! LOL

quote:

ORIGINAL: TenderTorment

Apart from the old joke about the man taken to A/E with 6 plastic toy horses lodged in his rectum....Dr's described his condition as stable.

Sorry, couldn't resist lol.

**Edit to add.....I was not the aforementioned man**

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:45:49 PM

EsotericLady

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That's what I was wondering about, piccante. Things that could get in the way of medical emergency procedures.

I didn't know about the radiographs. That's interesting! : )

quote:

ORIGINAL: piccante

~FR~

To be honest, in a serious emergency situation, the last thing a medical professional is concerned with is that funny piercing. Unless it directly interferes with what they need to do to save your life, then they won't be worried about it at that point in time. The main things in emergency situations that could cause immediate issue - that I can think of off the top of my head - are collars (may cause airway restriction) and metal piercings (interfere in radiographs and MRI scans). Those, like anything else I've missed, will be assessed and worked around, or removed if required.

If it's for planned or minor surgeries and tests, the medical professional will likely give you instructions ahead of time which will allow you to remove your various decorations or warn them of any body modifications, if that is what's required. For example, people going for dental OPT radiographs are asked beforehand to remove tongue piercings, earrings, necklaces, metal dentures and any other metalwork worn above the collarbone, as these could be caught on the radiograph and cause a "starburst" effect, rendering it useless. So, in that case, if you have, for example, a locked metal collar on, you can make sure to have it removed before attending for the radiograph.

Sure, a medical professional may be concerned if you're repeatedly turning up with marks that they would see as "traditional signs of abuse" but, as we're all adults, your explanation will go a long way towards putting their mind at ease if they ask about them. It would be different if you were a child turning up with similar cuts, bruises or weals, sure... but pretty much anything goes as an adult; they're not there to judge.

So would I inform my GP, or carry a bit of paper on me in order to inform the ER staff should something dire happen to me? Nope. If they need to they'll deal with it at the time, and any explanations required can be given later, once they've stopped me from dying.

And anyway, they've probably seen it all before!

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:50:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

WOW! What did I deserve to get THAT remark? LOL

I don't think I am any "special snowflake" when it comes to anything! And the scenario I described is NOT because I have experienced it myself.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Contrary to popular opinion, you are not, in fact, a special snowflake, and they have seen it before.

Just explain items of concern as they pop up, and no one will care.

EL, I agree that post was uncalled for. Your question is completely valid.

Working in the medical field, I saw a lot of alarming things. If the patient didn't bring my attention to them and clarify beforehand, I would ask "are you OK with these (bruises, cuts, marks, etc...)?" A simple "yes" meant there was no further concern.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 8:53:43 PM

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I didn't see anything wrong with her posting. I thought it was just matter of factly and I tell my daughter the same thing alllll the time...she's not a special snowflake or "you're special.....just like everyone else" lol.

She was just saying that medical care has seen it all so they are not going to see you as something different from what they've seen before. you're just another number in the work of the day.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 9:47:18 PM

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quote:

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I didn't see anything wrong with her posting.

Me either... I interpreted it as "none of us are special snowflakes" rather than being specifically directed at EsotericLady. My agreement with the sentiment was also generic rather than personal.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 9:54:19 PM

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Thank you, MistressDarkArt.

My initial question was based on sincere curiosity, and NOT on stupidity of the "obvious."

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

WOW! What did I deserve to get THAT remark? LOL

I don't think I am any "special snowflake" when it comes to anything! And the scenario I described is NOT because I have experienced it myself.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Contrary to popular opinion, you are not, in fact, a special snowflake, and they have seen it before.

Just explain items of concern as they pop up, and no one will care.

EL, I agree that post was uncalled for. Your question is completely valid.

Working in the medical field, I saw a lot of alarming things. If the patient didn't bring my attention to them and clarify beforehand, I would ask "are you OK with these (bruises, cuts, marks, etc...)?" A simple "yes" meant there was no further concern.

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RE: Managing visits to Medical Facilities - 2/5/2013 9:59:54 PM

EsotericLady

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Although I've never heard the term "snowflake" used to describe a person before, her comment was
"YOU are not a special snowflake" and not "NONE OF US are special snowflakes."
(Just to clarify your comment.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
I didn't see anything wrong with her posting.

Me either... I interpreted it as "none of us are special snowflakes" rather than being specifically directed at EsotericLady. My agreement with the sentiment was also generic rather than personal.

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