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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Manifesto.


HERE is my problem. The cops were looking for a dark colored pickup with a black man inside. THIS bright blue thing had two fucking women in it. THEN, the cops went and shot up another unrelated vehicle for the same reason. What the hell?

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

And no one here is upset that the cops think it is prudent to just go shooting at every pickup truck they see??

They've fired shots into TWO vehicles without even confirming who was even in them... That's not "on edge".

FFS, my buddy in LA says that the local news is warning people to be extra cautious, lest the cops get itchy and start shooting again.

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Does the fact that he has gone off the deep end NOW, mean that his original allegations were not founded?

Perhaps after you read the entire document you might need to redefine "going of the deep end". consider for a moment what george III and parliment thought when they found out about one of their govornors being murdered and his home burned to the ground by a bunch of "wakkos" I can even imagine some of them saying something like "I really don't give a shit how this idiot is justifying his rage. "

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Our society is in thrall to the idea of revenge. It is the central plot device in so much of what we consider to be entertainment. How many movies feature a hero striking back at those who wronged him? Over and over, our children and teenagers sit beside us and thrill to the story of a man with a gun who finds a way to exact retribution...the obtaining of revenge has value to us, and gives us meaning. The glorification of killing in the service of personal retribution is a deeply held public value.

What is the cost of celebrating this value over and over and over? What might be the effect of declaring that retribution is a high virtue - of teaching exactly that to the weak and the strong, the young and the old, the mentally able and those who are infirm in thought and emotion? What do we think might happen when a person is taught that a man's highest and best use can be shooting down those who have wronged us?

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IMO, it says a lot about the mental state of this former LAPD officer that the first person he chose to murder was the daughter of the police officer who unsuccessfuly defended him at his hearing. it seems that Mark Ostler, Professor of Law, University of St. Thomas might be correct:

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Our society is in thrall to the idea of revenge. It is the central plot device in so much of what we consider to be entertainment. How many movies feature a hero striking back at those who wronged him? Over and over, our children and teenagers sit beside us and thrill to the story of a man with a gun who finds a way to exact retribution...the obtaining of revenge has value to us, and gives us meaning. The glorification of killing in the service of personal retribution is a deeply held public value.

What is the cost of celebrating this value over and over and over? What might be the effect of declaring that retribution is a high virtue - of teaching exactly that to the weak and the strong, the young and the old, the mentally able and those who are infirm in thought and emotion? What do we think might happen when a person is taught that a man's highest and best use can be shooting down those who have wronged us?

IMO, this former LAPD officer believes he was wronged, and society has taught him and trained him that the correct and honorable thing for him to do is to revenge himself against those who wronged him (and, by extention, their families).

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You are not saying it's society's fault are you?

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I see you have taken objection to my characterization of this guy as an 'idiot".
Real sorry about that but here's the deal.....I don't have time to read the ramblings of the clearly demented.
I choose to spend my time on other endeavors,should there be time later I will return to William Manchester's excellent biography of Winston Churchill rather than the musings of this idiot.
Ooop's there I go again calling this poor fool an idiot ....well I guess I will just have to take the risk....I sure hope he doesn't wind up establishing a Republic or something equally as momentous......would't I feel like a fool if that happens.

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As to some of the allegations, it appears that there were witness at the hearing, that did not support Dorner allegation. Also it appears the incident happen some time before Dorner reported it, a violation of LAPD Policy. Dorner may have been trying to retailiate on his Training Officer.

On Aug. 4, 2007, Evans warned Dorner that she would give him an unsatisfactory rating and request that he be removed from the field unless he improved.

Six days later, Dorner reported to internal affairs that in the course of an arrest Evans had kicked a severely mentally ill man in the chest and left cheek. His report came two weeks after the arrest, police and court records allege.

Three civilian witnesses and a harbor policeman all said they didn't see Evans kick the man, who had a quarter-inch scratch on his cheek consistent with his fall into a bush. The police review board ruled against Dorner, leading to his dismissal.

"The delay in reporting the alleged misconduct, coupled with the witnesses' statements, irreparably destroy Dorner's credibility and bring into question his suitability for continued employment as a police officer," the file reads.

As to Dorner mental state I leave that up to the Doctors.

http://news.yahoo.com/career-woes-perceived-racism-fuel-ex-cops-anger-000024963.html

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Cops don't typically tell on other cops. They either back them or conveniently don't remember seeing anything.

A cop that snitches on other cops might call for backup in a gun battle to have nobody show up to help him.

I am only posting new articles...I am not the author and you are making alot of assumptions with no facts to base it upon.

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Does the fact that he has gone off the deep end NOW, mean that his original allegations were not founded?

Perhaps after you read the entire document you might need to redefine "going of the deep end". consider for a moment what george III and parliment thought when they found out about one of their govornors being murdered and his home burned to the ground by a bunch of "wakkos" I can even imagine some of them saying something like "I really don't give a shit how this idiot is justifying his rage. "

Well,well,well...he's back.
How ya'doing Thompson.
I see you have taken objection to my characterization of this guy as an 'idiot".
Real sorry about that but here's the deal.....I don't have time to read the ramblings of the clearly demented.
I choose to spend my time on other endeavors,should there be time later I will return to William Manchester's excellent biography of Winston Churchill rather than the musings of this idiot.
Ooop's there I go again calling this poor fool an idiot ....well I guess I will just have to take the risk....I sure hope he doesn't wind up establishing a Republic or something equally as momentous......would't I feel like a fool if that happens.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u



I see you have taken objection to my characterization of this guy as an 'idiot".
Real sorry about that but here's the deal.....I don't have time to read the ramblings of the clearly demented.
I choose to spend my time on other endeavors,should there be time later I will return to William Manchester's excellent biography of Winston Churchill rather than the musings of this idiot.
Ooop's there I go again calling this poor fool an idiot ....well I guess I will just have to take the risk....I sure hope he doesn't wind up establishing a Republic or something equally as momentous......would't I feel like a fool if that happens.

If you aren't going to take the time to learn about someone/something, then you really are in no place to pass judgement.

What's up with the charade of pretentiousness?

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~ FR ~

If you've been watching CNN, you've realized that this is being ginned up into a major media event featuring Christopher Dorner. The "news" anchors are practically salivating. "Seventeen million people terrorized in California!"
K.

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Cops don't typically tell on other cops. They either back them or conveniently don't remember seeing anything.

A cop that snitches on other cops might call for backup in a gun battle to have nobody show up to help him.

I am only posting new articles...I am not the author and you are making alot of assumptions with no facts to base it upon.

What exactly do you have issue with? You don't think cops hang other cops out to dry? A cop branded as a snitch calls for help and a car 15 minutes away takes 40 minutes to get there. Yeah that never happens.

And soldiers also don't frag other soldiers.

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Is it possible that all the news attention is part of Dorner design?

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Does anyone think that more gun laws would have stopped what this guy did ?

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It sounds like he should never have been commissioned.

That's what I thought. Both the Navy and the LAPD should have firm criteria for mental health for admission. I can't believe that they took him in, and trained him in how to kill.

Both the navy and the lapd have firm criteria for mental health for admission...how do you think he got in?

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It sounds like he should never have been commissioned.

That's what I thought. Both the Navy and the LAPD should have firm criteria for mental health for admission. I can't believe that they took him in, and trained him in how to kill.

Both the navy and the lapd have firm criteria for mental health for admission...how do you think he got in?

The Navy does not have any psychological testing going in unless they changed it in since I was in. They don't even ask if you have been to a shrink. It's all on the honor system. PD does though...sometimes it takes an "event" for the person to show symptoms. The structure of the military and PD often keep the person from breaking.

I don't believe they will catch him until he wants to be caught he has obviously planned every bit this. Locking my doors and sleeping with one eye open for a while.