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Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:23:11 AM   
naughtygirlWa


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Status: offline 		So I was chatting with a guy the other day and mentioned that I haven't had an orgasm from just vaginal intercourse. He asked me how it's possible that I have a baby then, did I have artificial. I told him no, and asked him what me having an orgasm has to do with getting pregnant. He tells me I must have just released at the right time with my husband. I asked him, "released what exactly? I don't release anything during sex that makes me get pregnant." He said, "you have to have both." Again I was confused and asked him what he meant. He kept insisting that both the man and woman release something upon orgasm that enables the woman to get pregnant. So I explained how human reproduction worked, with the egg and sperm and monthly cycle. His response was "I know." But he obviously didn't know.

So was he just stupid? A troll? Had some weird kink I've never heard of? Or was the sex education he received in school severely lacking?

Or maybe his wife just convinced him that he had to make her come in order for her to get pregnant. I just don't understand how you could get to be 51 and not understand how reproduction works.
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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:31:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe he was all of what you mentioned...however I knew someone who said a baby had been born with breadcrumbs all over her....because the mum had cravings for fishfingers....doh !!

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:35:06 AM   
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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:37:08 AM   
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I'm 47, and my sex education at school was woefully inadequate. It was the bare minimum of the mechanics of procreation but no chance to ask questions. Thankfully my mother was a little more proactive and, although too embarrassed to answer any really detailed questions, she bought a couple of books that delved into the relationship and sexual happiness side of things.

I do recall one of those urban myths that said you couldn't get pregnant if you didn't orgasm, but thankfully that's filed away under 'dumb and wrong' with other myths like not being able to get pregnant if you have sex standing up, or if he withdraws at the last second.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:43:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, I had no idea. I guess I really benefited from an education in the late 90's.

Although the only parts I specifically remember were the day the boys and girls were separated and we felt up fake boobs looking for lumps. And the day we laid out a big blanket and sat down on it one by one so we could see how many people we were potentially sleeping with every time we had sex.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:50:10 AM   
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Wow, I had no idea. I guess I really benefited from an education in the late 90's.

Although the only parts I specifically remember were the day the boys and girls were separated and we felt up fake boobs looking for lumps. And the day we laid out a big blanket and sat down on it one by one so we could see how many people we were potentially sleeping with every time we had sex.


Holy cow, really? That's awesome!

Boy. I went to Catholic school. Um...'nuff said.

(I do, though, have a mother and a sister who made sure I knew what I needed to know. But school? No.)

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:55:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank goodness it's a lot better these days! I teach sex ed to small groups, and we cover absolutely everything, from relationships to masturbation to sexual health to contraception to sexuality to...well, you name it! No genuine question is ignored and students are free to come to me to ask confidential or embarrassing questions.

We'd have a lot more teenage mums and dads if we had to rely on the sex ed I had as a teenager

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 7:56:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like the theory about the wife making him think he has to make her orgasm to get a baby. However, I have a hard time with thinking this is the fault of sex education. If the sex ed teacher even mentioned the concept of female orgasm, then it was probably a fairly progressive and comprehensive program.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 8:05:12 AM   
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I like the theory about the wife making him think he has to make her orgasm to get a baby. However, I have a hard time with thinking this is the fault of sex education. If the sex ed teacher even mentioned the concept of female orgasm, then it was probably a fairly progressive and comprehensive program.


I was thinking the same thing. Even during the education that my fairly progressive mother and sister gave me, I don't remember ever learning about a female orgasm. It was all about the man. LOL. Hmm. That may explain a few things.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 8:05:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		My school didn't even have sex education. Of course I didn't go to school during the 70's, but still. Most every one I know (who I didn't go to high school with) had a sex education course. I don't know if I should feel left out or not. I've heard it was very corny and cheesy.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 8:12:20 AM   
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My school didn't even have sex education. Of course I didn't go to school during the 70's, but still. Most every one I know (who I didn't go to high school with) had a sex education course. I don't know if I should feel left out or not. I've heard it was very corny and cheesy.


I had one course in junior high and one course in high school. Oh, and I think we also watched videos in sixth grade educating us boys and girls about what is going to happen to our bodies as they "come of age."

As I recall, my sex ed classes were good. Somehow, through the combination of all that, as well as several after school specials, plus very special episodes of Diffrent Strokes, Blossom, and all, I learned to always use a condom and birth control. I think that's what they were going for.

It would have been nice if sex ed covered the emotional side of sex. Hopefully that's getting better, in the states that still allow their schools to have such programs.


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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 9:05:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		My schools did not have sex education classes. That was okay because I had my dad's nursing textbooks to learn from.

I also start teach sex ed to my daughter when she was 6. I felt she was mature enough to understand it plus she would enter our bedroom if her father and I were occupied...


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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 9:25:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I remember that there was some sex education in the schools I attended, although it was incorporated into health class, not a separate course by itself. The bulk of our sex education seemed to be about VD, as I recall. They did mention that sex causes pregnancy, but there wasn't really much about birth control discussed. Abstinence was stressed. It wasn't like they taught us that the stork brought babies or anything like that, but many of the nuances weren't really discussed, so some might have thought up novel ways that they could still have sex without a resulting pregnancy.

I don't recall anyone thinking that a woman has to orgasm in order to get pregnant, although it does seem like something a teenage boy from that era might come up with. It sounds like the idea that if the guy pulls out before climaxing, then the woman can't get pregnant. That didn't really work out as planned for some people.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 9:37:37 AM   
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Sex education when I was in school was largely a joke and a complete waste of time. I attended public school myself and the emphasis was always on abstinence and nothing else. Talked about STDs, but didnt discuss ways that you can help to prevent them aside from just not doing anything. Learned that boys had penises and girls have vaginas, but God forbid if we discuss anything else beyond that. And lets not discuss the awkward assembly that only all of us 5th grade girls at the time got summoned to to discuss a certain time of the month.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 9:49:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		We got it through our health class, it was just a section. That term was the systems, skeletal, muscular, etc. and reproductive. It wasn't about "sex" per se, it simply gave the basics; which gender had which parts, what they did, and how conception occurred. We didn't discuss abstinence, oral sex, masturbation or anything like that. We might have touched on birth control, I don't really remember. I do know that we didn't have a lot of girls getting pregnant during high school though, so I really can't jump to the correlation.

I'm not sure I would have wanted a teacher talking to my son about oral sex and the like though. Of course, I am the "go to" person for him, his girlfriend and many of his friends for the sex questions though, so obviously I talk with him myself.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 10:38:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL... I'd file him with that senator from MO.

Though the sex education provided wasn't the greatest in the seventies... um... we explored and found out ourselves. You know that, make love and not war... love the one you're with and no AIDS that we knew of.

I miss the good ol days. And I bet that instructor we had, will never forget some of us!

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 10:53:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I really understand your view LL - I wish all parents were like you!

Many of the children in my school are from families where discussing that sort of thing just doesn't happen. And there are other kids who have questions that they just don't want to talk to their parents about...the embarrassment factor is too high. I'm known as an 'unshockable teacher' lol

I don't discuss techniques, but I do address oral sex as part of a loving relationship which also has its own health and emotional risks. I've answered questions about any and every kind of sex, but within a framework of keeping the youngsters informed so that they make the best decisions for themselves.

My priority is to produce young people who have happy, healthy sexual and emotional relationships when - and only when - they are ready to have them.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 11:01:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		In sixth grade the girls and boys separated, and we watched this animated film....the only thing I remember is that the man and woman were very....hairy, and we giggled when the animated penis got erect lol. In 9th grade we watched that "Miracle of Life" (or whatever it was called), and that was pretty much it. Most of what I learned I got from talking to Mom, an older teenage girl down the street, and looking up "sex" and "reproduction" and other such words in our 1976 set of Encyclopedias. :)

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 11:29:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is one of those cultural differences moments again.

We have sex ed in all schools at grade level 4, 6, and 9, covering just about everything.
It is part of the mandatory biology curriculum for those years.
My catholic elementary school, as well as that of my kids, did just fine with it, as did our public high schools (Gymnasium).

That said, I always feel that if they could teach my boys something we had not already talked about at home, I was not doing my job.

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RE: Was sex education really that bad in the seventies? - 2/9/2013 2:03:44 PM   
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I have to say it, though. I don't think a person can blame a poor education from thirty-five years ago as a reason for ignorance. I can't imagine anyone having so little sexual experience, competence, or desire to learn that they would continue to believe such a thing for a minimum of over three decades.


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