DomKen
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Yes, there is everything wrong with objectivism. It is more simply described as total selfishness. It has led to such absurd notions as getting rid of the social safety net in order to reduce the tax burden. As a mater of fact it is the underlying rot in the conservative movement that has destroyed it as an intellectual force and is what is driving the entire conservative movement out of the political mainstream. In simple terms the most effective weapon ever deployed by the Soviets in their efforts to destroy us as a nation and an ideal is Ayn Rand. It is a matter of interpretation what objectivism means. It has to do with individual vs the state issue. I can understand leftist hate the notion of individual initiative and power. For them somehow collective mind makes things happen. I would argue, for young people coming in touch with today's environment, understanding the reality and their place in it is very important. They should reject the dystopian national security corporate police state that is being built for them. Without support the effort can not succeed. Objectivism encourages the police state not protects from it. It inherently says that might makes right and that leads directly to dictatorship. Selfishness destroys community and community is what has allowed our species to rise to the level it is at now. To destroy our civilization one need but allow selfishness to become the philosophy of the majority. You must not have heard what she said about the use of force. (The only proper purpose of a government is to protect man’s rights, which means: to protect him from physical violence. A proper government is only a policeman, acting as an agent of man’s self-defense, and, as such, may resort to force only against those who start the use of force. The only proper functions of a government are: the police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders; and the courts, to protect your property and contracts from breach or fraud by others, to settle disputes by rational rules, according to objective law. But a government that initiates the employment of force against men who had forced no one, the employment of armed compulsion against disarmed victims, is a nightmare infernal machine designed to annihilate morality: such a government reverses its only moral purpose and switches from the role of protector to the role of man’s deadliest enemy, from the role of policeman to the role of a criminal vested with the right to the wielding of violence against victims deprived of the right of self-defense. Such a government substitutes for morality the following rule of social conduct: you may do whatever you please to your neighbor, provided your gang is bigger than his.) http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/government.html She said a lot of stuff that doesn't match up with her philosophy. Under objectivism the successful should be able to do pretty much anything which includes the use of violence, see the campaign of terrorism implemented by Galt in Atlas Shrugged. Since she is arguing that the successful should be in absolute control that is obviously an argument that the government should use violence and threat of violence to control the mass of society which is a police state.
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