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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 4:23:36 AM   
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Well I have to say thank you for all of your criticism that was really helpful since you never advised me on TPE anyway? So I don't know why you even bothered to write in the first place for. Well I have to say about what I was trained in by a Mistress and Master and he started in BDSM before you was born, unless you was 20yo in 1950 or so. I would say he had a lot of training and experience, don't you. I probably know as much as you or maybe more in training and experience, and it didn't come from a book it came from real life okay.
I went back and skimmed through the thread. You didn't ask a question about TPE (Total Power Exchange) that I saw. You asked why somebody was no longer interested in engaging in a TPE with you when you lacked prior experience in having one. When a person is looking at somebody to turn all of the authority in their life over to somebody else, you can't blame a person for not wanting to engage in that kind of lifestyle with somebody who has never had a long term dynamic as being the person in charge before.

The reason that people are confusing you with a male submissive is because you keep extolling this bit about how you were trained by a Master and Mistress. Since you have these basic, elementary type questions, yet supposedly have all of this training and experience, it doesn't really add up. Also, your time frames are totally wonky. These people had all of this experience but didn't teach you common definitions? Exactly what did they teach you? They obviously didn't teach you about you being in charge in a relationship with another human being because you've got no record of that, either. A few play techniques that you did decades ago with various play partners (because that's all it is sounding like it really is) doesn't say that you have ever Mastered anybody.

Sorry, but the person/people who trained you may have tons of experience. You don't get to piggyback it and call it your own. I'd lay odds that the gal that I've been mentoring for less than the past year is probably more knowledgeable than you. She doesn't claim to have started in the late nineties just because I did.

A person can puff their chest out and go on about how they are 'living it' as opposed to discussing reading books. Here's a newsflash. Those who have read books can easily tell you that there is a glossary in the back of each and every non fiction book about kink out there and the simplistic terms that you're asking about here are included. I don't have any shame in saying I've got a couple of dozen non fiction BDSM books on My shelf. Sure, some of them are so old that the pages have yellowed with age along the edges but I'd still recommend them to anybody who was first starting out. In fact, the one that was recommended to Me when I went to My first munch is still in My bookcase.

Frankly, I tend to have sincere doubts about anybody who wants to go on about how they have lived the lifestyle years ago and in the same breath bitches about not being able to find people on the net to engage in it with them. I guess you weren't taught that, either. I collared My first boy before I ever had a screen name and I wouldn't want it any other way.

You can't blame people for finding all of this supposed skill and experience laughable when there is nothing here to show people that you are any different from any other keyboard commando. Since you're a little fuzzy on definitions, a keyboard commando in regards to BDSM is somebody who gets on the net claiming to have done tons of kink, but his only experience in the whole realm of kink is playing in chat rooms and/or message boards.



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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 4:54:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rowdy01

Well I have to say thank you for all of your criticism that was really helpful since you never advised me on TPE anyway? So I don't know why you even bothered to write in the first place for. Well I have to say about what I was trained in by a Mistress and Master and he started in BDSM before you was born, unless you was 20yo in 1950 or so. I would say he had a lot of training and experience, don't you. I probably know as much as you or maybe more in training and experience, and it didn't come from a book it came from real life okay.


Post number 3 and a subsequent post (# 13) tried to explain what TPE is.

With all respect, if you do not know the maximum time you can leave nipple clamps on without the possibility of causing permanent damage or how tightly you can bind them without causing tissue death, then you are not an expert.
The key really is safety.

You are an expert at needle play?
How do you play safely?
Are you well trained in infection control procedures and have had a recent course in blood borne pathogens?

If you haven't used a whip in a number of years, your muscle memory is bound to be rusty, so claiming expert status is a bit dubious.

Being shown how to do something is not proof you know how to do something, and if your trainers had bad habits and passed them on to you, you aren't likely to know that, are you?

Merely having done something 20 years ago does not qualify you as an expert.
Keeping in regular practice and understanding and following all safety protocols is a much better indicator.

From the s-side of the kneel there is no greater danger than someone who thinks he knows everything about a particular activity, when in fact s/he does not.

My guess is that LadyPact (who is an expert in many things) knows she doesn't know everything about the things she is an expert in.

Btw: [my] Master loves begging; He just isn't the person doing it.

Your head is too much in the box and that means you run the risk of having big blind spots.




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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:20:10 AM   
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Is there anybody who doesn't love getting a massage?

This may sound impossible and incredulous even to me, but my x-dom hated massage, whether by me or professionals. But his the only person I've ever met in my life who didn't enjoy massage.


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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:23:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The others answered the questions about the definitions that you didn't know. I have to say, if I had "trained" anyone and they didn't know such simple, basic things about BDSM such as CBT and queening, I'd be thoroughly ashamed that, as a female Dominant, I had allowed somebody to remain so uneducated.

You also asked about why nobody answers the messages that you send and/or why people stop conversing when you tell them that you are new. What I might suggest to you is that, from reading this thread, regardless of whatever kind of training you had twenty years ago, the story just doesn't hold water. The part about how you keep calling yourself "master" but need to be told the simplest things, isn't exactly the first candidate that somebody is going to choose when talking about owning another person. From the profile, I see no reference to your prior experience in having a submissive of your own. If you had, that's not exactly why a person would get out of BDSM to have a wife and child.

All of those expert definitions? There's not a thing to verify you've got any more experience in them than hitting that expert button when you filled the profile out. Nothing. Most folks don't walk away from a whip for more than a decade and claim to be an expert at it. I don't care how good you think you once were. If you are out of practice, you're not an expert now and I'd be seriously concerned for anybody who agreed to be on the receiving end of that whip that you may not have picked up for years and years.

Rethink your approach. Be a tad more realistic. I'm sure your results will improve.


As I said some things have changed and I didn't know what CBT was until told, I hate abbreviating words. I've now changed my profile what I was doing was putting in things that I wanted a slave to do and what I wanted to do to her. Can you have a look and see if I may have missed something, I do want to get it right as I've never filled in a profile before, so give me a break okay. I haven't lied about anything, and whips and canes are not something you forget. And I can flay the skin of someones back with a stock whip, I haven't forgotten how too. We didn't use the internet to find slaves back then we were a BDSM community, hell one of my slaves parents were Dominants as well and they had 2 slaves each. There were 30 Masters/Mistresses that I had met at their gatherings. I did have 2 trainers not 1 my second trainer was a Master as he also called himself, and I was also told a Master is someone who has a slave and a Dom is someone who has a Sub. I wonder what people will say now? I only asked something I didn't know about, I don't claim to know everything if I did I wouldn't ask any questions and I still don't know about TPE only what I new before I asked my question. By the way I could also as about your training who trained you then as I know who trained me, my 2 trainers are probably dead from old age as the master was in his middle 50s and the mistress was 42 at the time. If you have another look at my profile now with all the changes can you let me what other areas to change as well thanks. P.S can you send me a message instead as I'm coping enough shit as it is. Thank you for your advise and any help you might give with my profile.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:27:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: rowdy01

Well I have to say thank you for all of your criticism that was really helpful since you never advised me on TPE anyway? So I don't know why you even bothered to write in the first place for. Well I have to say about what I was trained in by a Mistress and Master and he started in BDSM before you was born, unless you was 20yo in 1950 or so. I would say he had a lot of training and experience, don't you. I probably know as much as you or maybe more in training and experience, and it didn't come from a book it came from real life okay.
I went back and skimmed through the thread. You didn't ask a question about TPE (Total Power Exchange) that I saw. You asked why somebody was no longer interested in engaging in a TPE with you when you lacked prior experience in having one. When a person is looking at somebody to turn all of the authority in their life over to somebody else, you can't blame a person for not wanting to engage in that kind of lifestyle with somebody who has never had a long term dynamic as being the person in charge before.

The reason that people are confusing you with a male submissive is because you keep extolling this bit about how you were trained by a Master and Mistress. Since you have these basic, elementary type questions, yet supposedly have all of this training and experience, it doesn't really add up. Also, your time frames are totally wonky. These people had all of this experience but didn't teach you common definitions? Exactly what did they teach you? They obviously didn't teach you about you being in charge in a relationship with another human being because you've got no record of that, either. A few play techniques that you did decades ago with various play partners (because that's all it is sounding like it really is) doesn't say that you have ever Mastered anybody.

Sorry, but the person/people who trained you may have tons of experience. You don't get to piggyback it and call it your own. I'd lay odds that the gal that I've been mentoring for less than the past year is probably more knowledgeable than you. She doesn't claim to have started in the late nineties just because I did.

A person can puff their chest out and go on about how they are 'living it' as opposed to discussing reading books. Here's a newsflash. Those who have read books can easily tell you that there is a glossary in the back of each and every non fiction book about kink out there and the simplistic terms that you're asking about here are included. I don't have any shame in saying I've got a couple of dozen non fiction BDSM books on My shelf. Sure, some of them are so old that the pages have yellowed with age along the edges but I'd still recommend them to anybody who was first starting out. In fact, the one that was recommended to Me when I went to My first munch is still in My bookcase.

Frankly, I tend to have sincere doubts about anybody who wants to go on about how they have lived the lifestyle years ago and in the same breath bitches about not being able to find people on the net to engage in it with them. I guess you weren't taught that, either. I collared My first boy before I ever had a screen name and I wouldn't want it any other way.

You can't blame people for finding all of this supposed skill and experience laughable when there is nothing here to show people that you are any different from any other keyboard commando. Since you're a little fuzzy on definitions, a keyboard commando in regards to BDSM is somebody who gets on the net claiming to have done tons of kink, but his only experience in the whole realm of kink is playing in chat rooms and/or message boards.



I did ask about TPE that was my first question I asked, I numbered them 1,2,3 I think CBT was my second question

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:37:12 AM   
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Lol, I was just reading all the "expert" stuffs, and I probably got loads of "experts" on everything too.
But because in my context, I thought "expert" was just ranking how much I enjoyed that activity, and not how good I was with it.
Okay...., very slow over here..... me...

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:37:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rowdy01

What are you talking about a male sub, theirs nothing in my profile for you to come up with this crap. Does it make me a sub using a whip on a slave does it make me a sub using a cane on on a slave make me a sub NO I don't think so or we are ALL subs then aren't we. Everything that I rated myself in doing I have done on 12 slaves and I trained only 2 beginners 10 I only part trained only once contract was complete they went back to their master or mistress.


CBT and queening are activities for male subs. Many people have told you what TPE is.

Look, you have a lousy attitude, and I've no doubt that shows through in messages you send. As already mentioned, you want something that you don't know what it is, so it is no wonder the woman stopped talking to you.

Your profile reads as some condescending prick who thinks that tacking, "master" on to himself means anyone who identifies as "sub" should instantly give you some respect you imagine you deserve. We told you that until you are in a relationship, no one owes you respect, a reply or anything else.

Now you come back and say it wasn't just a mistress who "trained" you, but a master as well, yet neither of them were able to teach you how a total power exchange works, so yea, we are going to call you on your bullshit claims. If you don't like it, that isn't our problem either. You asked a question, we answered it. You aren't a master here, you are a person asking questions. Your questions indicate a severe lack of knowledge.

You left the lifestyle to try to find a wife and have a family. That didn't work, so now you figure you will get yourself a slave and order her to have a child for you. You don't indicate that there will be any love in your relationship, so why would someone want to "reproduce" with you? You make comments in your profile that read like you are giving permission for people to write to you, and your profile reads like that of a horny net geek, yet no matter what we tell you, you come back as combative.

As for your pictures, you have excuses why you they aren't recent, but the pictures you do have look like you still live with your mother, with dolls in the background and feminine, flowered furniture. Then you add the response killing comment about "real" slaves.

Dude, you come off as a poser, a horny net geek, who claims experience and expertise in ridiculous things like "blindfolds" and receiving "massages." "True" slaves, which really would simply be women who are serious about this lifestyle who you hope to attract DO notice these things as well as recognizing that they aren't going to kneel before you until you prove yourself worthy of them getting their knees dirty.

So since you obviously think we are all fake people who have nothing to do but pick on you, why don't you contact your previous mistress and master and ask them why you are having trouble finding someone?

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:42:51 AM   
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What are you talking about, some of the things like begging and to serve as a maid are what I want a slave to do not me. So what do you you advise take out what I want a slave to do? And just leave in what I was trained in. I don't have comedian in my profile! And I don't have cartoonist in my profile either. Auto racing is what I like watching on TV, F1,NASCAR, Indy not doing myself.


And yet, you removed those items from your profile. I assume you figured out that some things listed would be what an s-type would do and others are non-specific?

You had you were an expert at Auto Racing. Watching it on TV doesn't make you an expert on anything but watching it and perhaps trivia about it.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:44:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rowdy01


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: rowdy01

Well I have to say thank you for all of your criticism that was really helpful since you never advised me on TPE anyway? So I don't know why you even bothered to write in the first place for. Well I have to say about what I was trained in by a Mistress and Master and he started in BDSM before you was born, unless you was 20yo in 1950 or so. I would say he had a lot of training and experience, don't you. I probably know as much as you or maybe more in training and experience, and it didn't come from a book it came from real life okay.
I went back and skimmed through the thread. You didn't ask a question about TPE (Total Power Exchange) that I saw. You asked why somebody was no longer interested in engaging in a TPE with you when you lacked prior experience in having one. When a person is looking at somebody to turn all of the authority in their life over to somebody else, you can't blame a person for not wanting to engage in that kind of lifestyle with somebody who has never had a long term dynamic as being the person in charge before.

The reason that people are confusing you with a male submissive is because you keep extolling this bit about how you were trained by a Master and Mistress. Since you have these basic, elementary type questions, yet supposedly have all of this training and experience, it doesn't really add up. Also, your time frames are totally wonky. These people had all of this experience but didn't teach you common definitions? Exactly what did they teach you? They obviously didn't teach you about you being in charge in a relationship with another human being because you've got no record of that, either. A few play techniques that you did decades ago with various play partners (because that's all it is sounding like it really is) doesn't say that you have ever Mastered anybody.

Sorry, but the person/people who trained you may have tons of experience. You don't get to piggyback it and call it your own. I'd lay odds that the gal that I've been mentoring for less than the past year is probably more knowledgeable than you. She doesn't claim to have started in the late nineties just because I did.

A person can puff their chest out and go on about how they are 'living it' as opposed to discussing reading books. Here's a newsflash. Those who have read books can easily tell you that there is a glossary in the back of each and every non fiction book about kink out there and the simplistic terms that you're asking about here are included. I don't have any shame in saying I've got a couple of dozen non fiction BDSM books on My shelf. Sure, some of them are so old that the pages have yellowed with age along the edges but I'd still recommend them to anybody who was first starting out. In fact, the one that was recommended to Me when I went to My first munch is still in My bookcase.

Frankly, I tend to have sincere doubts about anybody who wants to go on about how they have lived the lifestyle years ago and in the same breath bitches about not being able to find people on the net to engage in it with them. I guess you weren't taught that, either. I collared My first boy before I ever had a screen name and I wouldn't want it any other way.

You can't blame people for finding all of this supposed skill and experience laughable when there is nothing here to show people that you are any different from any other keyboard commando. Since you're a little fuzzy on definitions, a keyboard commando in regards to BDSM is somebody who gets on the net claiming to have done tons of kink, but his only experience in the whole realm of kink is playing in chat rooms and/or message boards.



I did ask about TPE that was my first question I asked, I numbered them 1,2,3 I think CBT was my second question

What do you mean my time frames are wonky I started when I was 17yo what's wonky about that, It's nearly 31 years ago now when I started out.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:49:39 AM   
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Just quit it. Just quit telling us how much experience and capability you have. You've already contradicted yourself several times. You've shown that you have no clue how protocol works. You've claimed to be trained by truly great people, and then dropped that you've not bothered to keep in touch with them and have no clue if they're still alive. Now you're claiming that you can flay someone's back. This is one of the reasons why bullshitters like you are dangerous - you'd be liable to severely injure someone because you were too dumb to admit that you didn't know what you're doing.

Like I said earlier, you're not smart enough to make up stories, so cut it out. Your stories are getting wilder each time, and the chance that they couldn't be verified or disproved empirically is diminishing each time.

"I was also told a Master is someone who has a slave and a Dom is someone who has a Sub. I wonder what people will say now?"

Let me tell you about a local Master. He claims over 37 years of experience with whips. He has given several demos of how to use them. He hosts a monthly get-together for whips enthusiasts. I have seen him whip a woman for an hour. His style was odd, not standing, but crouching and moving around, like he was stalking her. (He has a background in martial arts.) He has critiqued whips for manufacturers. He has advised me on protocol when I've asked him.

He has had injuries that should have plunked him in a wheelchair. But he's completely physically active and has a physical job. No medications - he simply refuses to give in.

There are over 100 local people who could testify as to his ability, and his attitude.

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ORIGINAL: rowdy01

What do you mean my time frames are wonky I started when I was 17yo what's wonky about that, It's nearly 31 years ago now when I started out.


You claim that you were trained 30 years ago. Then you claim that you have eleven or so years experience in certain practices that you claim expertise in. That implies that you were trained 30 years ago, fell into a coma for almost 20 years, and then reemerged.

Like I said, you're not up to making stuff up.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 5:54:21 AM   
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~Fast Reply~

Has anyone else noticed that the OP responds in a completely different manner to someone who is a dominant as opposed to those who are subs? With the exception of BTF.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:06:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


quote:

ORIGINAL: rowdy01

What are you talking about a male sub, theirs nothing in my profile for you to come up with this crap. Does it make me a sub using a whip on a slave does it make me a sub using a cane on on a slave make me a sub NO I don't think so or we are ALL subs then aren't we. Everything that I rated myself in doing I have done on 12 slaves and I trained only 2 beginners 10 I only part trained only once contract was complete they went back to their master or mistress.


CBT and queening are activities for male subs. Many people have told you what TPE is.

Look, you have a lousy attitude, and I've no doubt that shows through in messages you send. As already mentioned, you want something that you don't know what it is, so it is no wonder the woman stopped talking to you.

Your profile reads as some condescending prick who thinks that tacking, "master" on to himself means anyone who identifies as "sub" should instantly give you some respect you imagine you deserve. We told you that until you are in a relationship, no one owes you respect, a reply or anything else.

Now you come back and say it wasn't just a mistress who "trained" you, but a master as well, yet neither of them were able to teach you how a total power exchange works, so yea, we are going to call you on your bullshit claims. If you don't like it, that isn't our problem either. You asked a question, we answered it. You aren't a master here, you are a person asking questions. Your questions indicate a severe lack of knowledge.

You left the lifestyle to try to find a wife and have a family. That didn't work, so now you figure you will get yourself a slave and order her to have a child for you. You don't indicate that there will be any love in your relationship, so why would someone want to "reproduce" with you? You make comments in your profile that read like you are giving permission for people to write to you, and your profile reads like that of a horny net geek, yet no matter what we tell you, you come back as combative.

As for your pictures, you have excuses why you they aren't recent, but the pictures you do have look like you still live with your mother, with dolls in the background and feminine, flowered furniture. Then you add the response killing comment about "real" slaves.

Dude, you come off as a poser, a horny net geek, who claims experience and expertise in ridiculous things like "blindfolds" and receiving "massages." "True" slaves, which really would simply be women who are serious about this lifestyle who you hope to attract DO notice these things as well as recognizing that they aren't going to kneel before you until you prove yourself worthy of them getting their knees dirty.

So since you obviously think we are all fake people who have nothing to do but pick on you, why don't you contact your previous mistress and master and ask them why you are having trouble finding someone?

Bit hard to contact someone unless you wish to have a seance

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:14:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rowdy01
HELLO EVERYONE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK.

( 1 ) WHAT IS CBT?

( 2 ) WHAT IS QUEENING?

(3 ) I KNOW THE MEANING OF TPE BUT WHAT IS IT EXACTLY, DOES A DOM/DOMME HAVE TO BE TRAINED IN THIS OR CAN YOU TEACH YOURSELF.


Rowdy01,
I don't mean to pile on, so I'll try to keep this as constructive as possible.

By now, you probably understand why you're not getting the type of response that you desire. You say that you're a "Dom" and a "Master", yet everything that you've said thus far shows otherwise. Most of the people on here know enough to recognize the real thing when they see it. And you're not passing the test so far.

While you may have been proficient 20 years ago, it's clear that you aren't anymore. You didn't even know the most basic terminology. So you may want to get involved with your local BDSM group and attend a few play parties to brush up on your skills. I don't know about you, but my skill at tying knots drops drastically when I don't practice on a regular basis. After 20 years of inactivity, I doubt that I'd remember how to tie even the most basic knots.

You list yourself as an expert at a lot of things, but that's not likely after such a long layoff. It would be like a surgeon trying to step into the operating room after a 20 year sabbatical. Nobody would allow him to do so for fear that he might kill someone. Well, after a 20 year layoff from BDSM, most people probably wouldn't feel comfortable letting you play with ropes (particularly suspension play), knives, fire, needles, or whips, without going through a lot of practice and retraining.

Hopefully, you understand this, and don't view it as an insult to your domliness. Rather, it's just a precaution to keep your subs/slaves safe.

Hopefully, you'll take my suggestion and get involved with your local BDSM group. Regardless of what you may have known in the past, it's always wise to practice a bit after such a long layoff.

BTW, when you said that you were trained by a "Mistress", I assumed that meant that you were a male sub. Others may be interpreting your statement that way as well. It's probably just a jargon difference because you're from Australia, but here in the U.S., a Dom (like yourself) would probably say that he was "taught" or "mentored" by an experienced Dom or Domme. When you say you were "trained", that's a term that usually describes what a Dom/Domme does to their sub/slave. Also, if the person who taught you was a female, it might be better to call her a Domme. When you call her a "Mistress" it makes it sound like you are her sub (unless she uses Mistress XXX as her official title). These may seem like small things, but collectively, they serve as yellow flags to anyone who reads what you've written.

There are more things in your profile that are problematic. But I won't waste time mentioning those. Just suffice it to say that after reading your profile, it became obvious why you're not getting a positive response. Your profile screams "newbie", yet you claim to be an experienced Master. Most subs/slaves would be very leery of that.

I'm sure that once you get active in your local BDSM community, you'll start to remember all of the things that you seem to have forgotten.

Good luck to you.
-Roch

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:15:27 AM   
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What are you talking about a male sub, theirs nothing in my profile for you to come up with this crap. Does it make me a sub using a whip on a slave does it make me a sub using a cane on on a slave make me a sub NO I don't think so or we are ALL subs then aren't we. Everything that I rated myself in doing I have done on 12 slaves and I trained only 2 beginners 10 I only part trained only once contract was complete they went back to their master or mistress.


CBT and queening are activities for male subs. Many people have told you what TPE is.

Look, you have a lousy attitude, and I've no doubt that shows through in messages you send. As already mentioned, you want something that you don't know what it is, so it is no wonder the woman stopped talking to you.

Your profile reads as some condescending prick who thinks that tacking, "master" on to himself means anyone who identifies as "sub" should instantly give you some respect you imagine you deserve. We told you that until you are in a relationship, no one owes you respect, a reply or anything else.

Now you come back and say it wasn't just a mistress who "trained" you, but a master as well, yet neither of them were able to teach you how a total power exchange works, so yea, we are going to call you on your bullshit claims. If you don't like it, that isn't our problem either. You asked a question, we answered it. You aren't a master here, you are a person asking questions. Your questions indicate a severe lack of knowledge.

You left the lifestyle to try to find a wife and have a family. That didn't work, so now you figure you will get yourself a slave and order her to have a child for you. You don't indicate that there will be any love in your relationship, so why would someone want to "reproduce" with you? You make comments in your profile that read like you are giving permission for people to write to you, and your profile reads like that of a horny net geek, yet no matter what we tell you, you come back as combative.

As for your pictures, you have excuses why you they aren't recent, but the pictures you do have look like you still live with your mother, with dolls in the background and feminine, flowered furniture. Then you add the response killing comment about "real" slaves.

Dude, you come off as a poser, a horny net geek, who claims experience and expertise in ridiculous things like "blindfolds" and receiving "massages." "True" slaves, which really would simply be women who are serious about this lifestyle who you hope to attract DO notice these things as well as recognizing that they aren't going to kneel before you until you prove yourself worthy of them getting their knees dirty.

So since you obviously think we are all fake people who have nothing to do but pick on you, why don't you contact your previous mistress and master and ask them why you are having trouble finding someone?

Bit hard to contact someone unless you wish to have a seance

So someone who does queening is a sub then, anyone can squat on someones face, or is that to hard for you to do. I used to squat on a slaves face and shove my cock in her mouth, does that make me a sub then. When you click on queening it says that's what a Domme does, so is a Domme also a sub, is this what you are saying because it sounds like it.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:16:33 AM   
rowdy01


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ORIGINAL: rowdy01


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ORIGINAL: rowdy01


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: rowdy01

What are you talking about a male sub, theirs nothing in my profile for you to come up with this crap. Does it make me a sub using a whip on a slave does it make me a sub using a cane on on a slave make me a sub NO I don't think so or we are ALL subs then aren't we. Everything that I rated myself in doing I have done on 12 slaves and I trained only 2 beginners 10 I only part trained only once contract was complete they went back to their master or mistress.


CBT and queening are activities for male subs. Many people have told you what TPE is.

Look, you have a lousy attitude, and I've no doubt that shows through in messages you send. As already mentioned, you want something that you don't know what it is, so it is no wonder the woman stopped talking to you.

Your profile reads as some condescending prick who thinks that tacking, "master" on to himself means anyone who identifies as "sub" should instantly give you some respect you imagine you deserve. We told you that until you are in a relationship, no one owes you respect, a reply or anything else.

Now you come back and say it wasn't just a mistress who "trained" you, but a master as well, yet neither of them were able to teach you how a total power exchange works, so yea, we are going to call you on your bullshit claims. If you don't like it, that isn't our problem either. You asked a question, we answered it. You aren't a master here, you are a person asking questions. Your questions indicate a severe lack of knowledge.

You left the lifestyle to try to find a wife and have a family. That didn't work, so now you figure you will get yourself a slave and order her to have a child for you. You don't indicate that there will be any love in your relationship, so why would someone want to "reproduce" with you? You make comments in your profile that read like you are giving permission for people to write to you, and your profile reads like that of a horny net geek, yet no matter what we tell you, you come back as combative.

As for your pictures, you have excuses why you they aren't recent, but the pictures you do have look like you still live with your mother, with dolls in the background and feminine, flowered furniture. Then you add the response killing comment about "real" slaves.

Dude, you come off as a poser, a horny net geek, who claims experience and expertise in ridiculous things like "blindfolds" and receiving "massages." "True" slaves, which really would simply be women who are serious about this lifestyle who you hope to attract DO notice these things as well as recognizing that they aren't going to kneel before you until you prove yourself worthy of them getting their knees dirty.

So since you obviously think we are all fake people who have nothing to do but pick on you, why don't you contact your previous mistress and master and ask them why you are having trouble finding someone?

Bit hard to contact someone unless you wish to have a seance

So someone who does queening is a sub then, anyone can squat on someones face, or is that to hard for you to do. I used to squat on a slaves face and shove my cock in her mouth, does that make me a sub then. When you click on queening it says that's what a Domme does, so is a Domme also a sub, is this what you are saying because it sounds like it.

FUCK OFF THE LOT OF YOU THEN

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:22:05 AM   
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As I said some things have changed and I didn't know what CBT was until told, I hate abbreviating words. I've now changed my profile what I was doing was putting in things that I wanted a slave to do and what I wanted to do to her. Can you have a look and see if I may have missed something, I do want to get it right as I've never filled in a profile before, so give me a break okay. I haven't lied about anything, and whips and canes are not something you forget. And I can flay the skin of someones back with a stock whip, I haven't forgotten how too. We didn't use the internet to find slaves back then we were a BDSM community, hell one of my slaves parents were Dominants as well and they had 2 slaves each. There were 30 Masters/Mistresses that I had met at their gatherings. I did have 2 trainers not 1 my second trainer was a Master as he also called himself, and I was also told a Master is someone who has a slave and a Dom is someone who has a Sub. I wonder what people will say now? I only asked something I didn't know about, I don't claim to know everything if I did I wouldn't ask any questions and I still don't know about TPE only what I new before I asked my question. By the way I could also as about your training who trained you then as I know who trained me, my 2 trainers are probably dead from old age as the master was in his middle 50s and the mistress was 42 at the time. If you have another look at my profile now with all the changes can you let me what other areas to change as well thanks. P.S can you send me a message instead as I'm coping enough shit as it is. Thank you for your advise and any help you might give with my profile.
I want you to recognize that I am trying to help you and am doing My best to be patient. The latter isn't always My strong suit.

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree in at least a few areas. This song and dance that you are trying to pass off about this extensive knowledge that was given to you by your "trainers" just isn't all that up to snuff. The stuff you are asking about isn't "new". Personally, I'd stop training people if all I could give them is what you seem to have come away with. It's not about knowing everything, but it is about knowing some very common basics.

Whips absolutely are something you forget. You may have been great at it in the past, but if you aren't current, you don't have the same skill. There is no other skill that is associated with marksmanship that you can walk away from and still be just as proficient ten years later. Yeah, I'm sure you can rip someone's back open and THAT is exactly where the problem lies. If that's your idea of skill, you need to rethink your assessments. Too many (excuse the term) dumb fucks think that they can stick a whip in their hand and put themselves in front of a human target and as long as they hit the PERSON, everything is kosher. It's not. Anybody who thinks it is should be considered dangerous.

Here's a question for you. How many whips do you own today? What kind of leather are they? How many plaits? When was the last time you changed the cracker or gave them oil? What day in this past week was it in your hand? If you have to go check google or another net source to answer those, you do the honorable thing and take that ridiculous expert designation off of there right now before somebody is dumb enough to trust you.

I've got no problem telling anyone who trained Me in anything. Some of them used to be posters here. They are all alive and well and I speak to most of them regularly. They taught Me well, unlike what it appears those who trained you did. I would never disgrace them by showing such ignorance in some of what has transpired on this thread. The five most prominent that trained Me in various skills are still active in the scene and three of whom have presented on a national level in the past year.

No, in this case, I'm not willing to help you with your profile. There is something about you that gives Me the idea that you would make such improvements in order to hoodwink the unsuspecting and I'd rather not be a part of that.



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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:30:56 AM   
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FUCK OFF THE LOT OF YOU THEN


I have to admit that, despite the fact that you've shown no ability in anything else, that wasn't a bad flounce at all.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:34:21 AM   
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FUCK OFF THE LOT OF YOU THEN

Sounds like OP is more than slightly miffed at being told his "skills" aren't what he thinks they are.

I have only one bit of advice for OP -
Rusty skills are not deemed as making you an 'expert'.
The people making comments about your profile and attitude are real experts that are living this life for real, with real slaves/subs as part of their everyday life.

If you want to get anywhere on CM, take their advice.

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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:38:21 AM   
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Previous post changed because it wasn't going to help anything.

OP has shown that he's not open to any serious changes. Move on folks, nothing to see here.

< Message edited by DarkSteven -- 2/18/2013 6:40:20 AM >


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RE: Something new?? - 2/18/2013 6:53:22 AM   
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FUCK OFF THE LOT OF YOU THEN
Such a display of Mastery!

OP, don't send Me anymore emails. I'll happily verify, demonstrate, or reference My areas of proficiency to anyone on this board. (Hey Roch, c'mere.) I'll be glad to do so when you are willing to do the same to a reasonable standard. Until then, debating such skill on the internet is nothing but a waste of time.



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