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ayroralgod -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 2:46:35 AM)

For me its second nature to bring a woman to multiple orgasm level.
obv some woman take more work than others but thats all the more fun as i love giving oral for hours :)




xssve -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 6:58:15 AM)

Across the mammalian spectrum, the norm is that the female chooses her partner, and the majority of mammals are not strictly monogamous, humans have adapted to monogamous pair bonding for a number of good utilitarian reasons mostly having to do with tracking paternity and childrearing in a semi-competitive political economy, but at the same time, it's anything but universal.

The trend in terms of social constructs however, leans distinctly towards monogamy, the exceptions being mostly related to class bias's - a man can go among lower socio-economic classes and breed indiscriminately (hypothetically), it takes, sometimes literally, a matter of seconds, whereas it takes a bare minimum of 9 months for a woman to reproduce, thus there is a sort of built in biological class bias towards female promiscuity, given that reliable methods of pregnancy prevention are less than a century old.

The fact that it's at least theoretically, among a given healthy population of mammals (or most other species for that matter) the females choice, means that in our more abstract culture most of the social controls concerning sexuality tend to be focused on the women, rather than the men, for the reasons described above.

That's why it's all Eve's fault, lol.

OF course a little understood corollary of this is that sexual activity between women is virtually transparent in all of this, there being no danger of reproduction occurring, and while male homosexuality is subject to powerful, often violent social controls, mostly having to do with the alpha hierarchy in which women are also transparent, female homosexuality is rarely even mentioned.

So that's one option, albeit, somebody too uptight to orgasm due to overriding social controls being instilled (i.e., anorgasmic due to organic issues), is also unlikely to engage in same-sex sexual activity I would imagine, since many of these social controls entail instilling a lot of specific anxiety, but at the same time usually instill as much if not more non-specific anxiety about their sexuality in general.




GotSteel -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 11:04:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovethyself
I have what might prove to be a foolish question. How can you tell if what you are having is one long, roling orgasm, and not many orgasms too close together to tell them apart? I don't come right down after I orgasm, so it's really easy to get a second, third, etc. If the stimulation stays, so does the orgasm.


If you can't distinguish it counts as a continuous orgasm, what's been called a rolling orgasm here.




Ravensnake -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 11:18:22 AM)

I can cum from having my nipples pinched and twisted, especially during sex or when I'm deep throating a guy.
Partly a mental thing as having my very sensitive nipples twisted also makes me very submissive.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 11:29:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ayroralgod

For me its second nature to bring a woman to multiple orgasm level.
obv some woman take more work than others but thats all the more fun as i love giving oral for hours :)


What's the game plan for women who don't like to receive oral?

I think the longer you went down on me the less success you would have.




noteasy1 -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 12:11:27 PM)

i feel extremely sorry for women that either cant/wont/dont have orgasms....about 6 months ago i met a woman that had been divorced for over 5 years. no orgasms in that period of time. and the more we talked about it she admitted that she had NEVER cum more than once while with anyone. well, the first time that we spent time in bed she DID cum 3 times. everytime we got together after that she came more and more. now its to the point that when we talk online
(she lives in oregon and i live in washington) all i have to do is say the right things to her and she can cum several times in a matter of an hour. we only get together physically once or twice a month....im totally retired and , she still works fulltime and very long hours. we are SERIOUSLY looking for another female sub to join us now.
we are both probably older ( me 72 and her 63) .............so, ladys...DONT GIVE UP..ITS NEVER TO LATE TO LEARN !
PS: she had never been a SUB to anyone before in her life ! its all in the way a woman thinks and reacts ...
good luck to each and everyone of you !
ANY questions........dont be shy , contact us.




xssve -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (2/27/2013 12:13:26 PM)

Maybe his tongue is 8 inches long and bifurcated.




Extravagasm -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/2/2013 2:50:56 PM)

quote:

lovethyself: How can you tell if what you are having is one long, rolling orgasm, and not many orgasms too close together to tell them apart? I don't come right down after I orgasm, so it's really easy to get a second, third, etc. If the stimulation stays, so does the orgasm.
GotSteel: If you can't distinguish it counts as a continuous orgasm, what's been called a rolling orgasm here.

Was away for a while. I know GotSteel has real experience in this, and its a good answer he gave. Thanx GS.

lovethyself, sounds like you can just barely distinguish multiples. Of course a distinction that close, nobody's saying it matters much.
Another way to look at it, could be:
Close multiple orgasms -- a continuous graph of sine curves, pushed together.
Rolling elongated orgasm -- an imperfect flat line graph, gradually stretching higher.

In a rare case, one woman would temporarily lose hearing during the higher end. Surprisingly she did not require continuing physical stimulation, but only lover's acceptance. Most people require some time-2-time stimulation, or extinguishing begins.
(It does feel a tad objectifying to delve into these, but heck if can't do on CM, where else?)

lovethyself, your screenname makes me think to ask (if you wanta say) do you consider yourself a natural, or more like it evolved over great lovemaking?

. . .




WolfenNKC -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/3/2013 5:34:10 AM)

I have not always been able to orgasm with a Man. Have been times that I have had to do myself. But can share this with you I was on pain killers and yes they do effect your sex drive, orgasms. I was never able to have an orgasm while on them. After I stopped taking them I found I had more awareness of my sexualty.




LightningVeins -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/3/2013 12:39:08 PM)

I have to agree with what others said about it being an emotional thing. You really have to get out of your head, go outside of yourself, your thoughts, your perceptions and rely on the feeling. You can think you know what an orgasm should feel like, you can anticipate and perceive what it will be like, but until you let go of all that crap, you can't even begin to imagine what happens to you. Screw scientific research, expert analysis and opinion, even friendly advice won't help you. The day I stopped thinking about orgasms as a thing I need to work towards is the day I discovered what the heck I was missing.




TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 4:04:03 PM)

edited to fix links...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
But in conservative relationships, I can imagine it's very difficult for them to talk about these things.


In so many conservative relationships that it makes the headlines, the guy is having sex talks in the men's room with strange men while his wife may be in another state and cannot hear his wisdom. (Sorry, OP, couldn't resist!)

OP - I think factors such as age, culture and health affect sexuality.

An older woman may be in a social circle that became more vocal and perhaps even more orgasmic, in more recent years. For that reason, she may think that women have difficulty with experiencing orgasms. A younger woman more than likely knows a different set of truths. Education and information, for both men and women, have made sexual skill-building a bit easier for anyone to do.

For some historical views on the topic, these studies are considered valid:

Masters & Johnson psychistofwomen.umwblogs.org/sexuality/post-kinsey/masters-and-johnson/

Kinsey www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/ak-data.html

Hite www.hiteresearchfoundation.org/home.aspx





sexyred1 -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 7:38:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


quote:

ORIGINAL: ayroralgod

For me its second nature to bring a woman to multiple orgasm level.
obv some woman take more work than others but thats all the more fun as i love giving oral for hours :)


What's the game plan for women who don't like to receive oral?

I think the longer you went down on me the less success you would have.


Not to mention the fact that for those who love it, we don't need a guy giving oral for HOURS. On Saturday night for example, it took me less than 5 minutes to have a screaming O.

If he tried doing it for HOURS, I would have had to hit him with a bat. :)




littlewonder -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 7:41:21 PM)

go for too long and it just becomes extremely sensitive to the point that you'd be lucky if you didn't get a kick for trying to go for hours.




xssve -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 9:37:21 PM)

I'd have lockjaw.




lovethyself -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 9:47:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

quote:

lovethyself: How can you tell if what you are having is one long, rolling orgasm, and not many orgasms too close together to tell them apart? I don't come right down after I orgasm, so it's really easy to get a second, third, etc. If the stimulation stays, so does the orgasm.
GotSteel: If you can't distinguish it counts as a continuous orgasm, what's been called a rolling orgasm here.

Was away for a while. I know GotSteel has real experience in this, and its a good answer he gave. Thanx GS.

lovethyself, sounds like you can just barely distinguish multiples. Of course a distinction that close, nobody's saying it matters much.
Another way to look at it, could be:
Close multiple orgasms -- a continuous graph of sine curves, pushed together.
Rolling elongated orgasm -- an imperfect flat line graph, gradually stretching higher.

In a rare case, one woman would temporarily lose hearing during the higher end. Surprisingly she did not require continuing physical stimulation, but only lover's acceptance. Most people require some time-2-time stimulation, or extinguishing begins.
(It does feel a tad objectifying to delve into these, but heck if can't do on CM, where else?)

lovethyself, your screenname makes me think to ask (if you wanta say) do you consider yourself a natural, or more like it evolved over great lovemaking?

. . .



Thanks for the more detailed breakdown. I've actually been trying to work this out in my head recently, as Sir has asked a couple of times after how many I had, and I couldn't tell how to count them. Well, I didn't know I was supposed to count during, and my attention was elsewhere. [:D]

My screenname is actually a reflection of me finally excepting this side of myself and not living an unfulfilled vanilla life anymore. It's not meant to reference masturbation, though I can see how it might seem that way.

As for your question, both. The mind can be a powerful force, both for good and bad. I had a couple of partners early on that didn't understand, and said some things that made me embarassed and shamed by my responses. It took a long time to learn and accept that they were misinformed idiots, and there wasn't anything wrong with me. During that time, I had difficulty reaching orgasm, because I was scared that they would think me weird or wrong. Now that I've known better for a while, and have been with partners that also have known better, I've had no problem having as many orgasms as my mind can handle.




TAFKAA -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 10:07:41 PM)

When discussions about female orgasm crop up, most of the opinions from men are thinly-veiled and rather pathetic attempts at advertising wherein they assert their exceptional capability at bringing a woman to orgasm.

This kind of behaviour is why I regard many men in here with an amusement bordering on contempt.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 10:17:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: noteasy1

i feel extremely sorry for women that either cant/wont/dont have orgasms....about 6 months ago i met a woman that had been divorced for over 5 years. no orgasms in that period of time. and the more we talked about it she admitted that she had NEVER cum more than once while with anyone. well, the first time that we spent time in bed she DID cum 3 times. everytime we got together after that she came more and more. now its to the point that when we talk online
(she lives in oregon and i live in washington) all i have to do is say the right things to her and she can cum several times in a matter of an hour. we only get together physically once or twice a month....im totally retired and , she still works fulltime and very long hours. we are SERIOUSLY looking for another female sub to join us now.
we are both probably older ( me 72 and her 63) .............so, ladys...DONT GIVE UP..ITS NEVER TO LATE TO LEARN !
PS: she had never been a SUB to anyone before in her life ! its all in the way a woman thinks and reacts ...
good luck to each and everyone of you !
ANY questions........dont be shy , contact us.
]

To me it sounds like she's faking it to get your off her back, because you're pressuring her so much about her orgasms.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/11/2013 10:32:37 PM)

~FR~

Collarchat is awesome!
I had my first vaginal orgasm ever last week, because of some of the stuff I've read on this tread.

Clitorally I can come like mad (in less than 30 seconds, and for hours on end), providing there is either water pressure, or mechanical stimulation (neither manual or oral do anything for me).

I had long since given up trying to achieve orgasm any other way than I'm used to. I didn't really miss anything, and don't mind just getting myself off when I'm in the mood to. But this tread sparked some curiosity, so I set out and tried again. It took me about an hour of experimentation for find sensation, and about another half hour of experimenting before I figured out how to do the stimulation in such a way that it could get me off, but finally it worked. Once I had figured it out, it was much easier to reproduce, to the point that now it only takes me about 10-15 minutes, if I'm in the mood.

So yeah me! [:)]

I must say that in the greater scheme of things, I'm rather unimpressed though. Sure it's a little different than a clitoral orgasm, but it's not THAT much different... and waaaaaaaay more work.
Though the fact that I now know how makes me wonder if I can teach myself to do it during sex... that would be pretty cool.




PeonForHer -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/12/2013 6:59:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
What's the game plan for women who don't like to receive oral?x


It's deeply tragic to me that there are women, apparently, who don't like to receive oral. Feck, it's an offence against nature. I bet God and Darwin would actually be in agreement on this.

You should be locked up, Athena, for being too depressing to be at large in society.

Men can only weep. That is All. [:(]




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: The elusive female orgasm (3/12/2013 7:12:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
What's the game plan for women who don't like to receive oral?x


It's deeply tragic to me that there are women, apparently, who don't like to receive oral. Feck, it's an offence against nature. I bet God and Darwin would actually be in agreement on this.

You should be locked up, Athena, for being too depressing to be at large in society.

Men can only weep. That is All. [:(]


Thank you for not saying 'you've just never had it done right!'

And naw, I'm not depressing. You pretty much only have to look at me the right way and I have an orgasm. If anything, I imagine I'm a pretty big ego-boost.




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