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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 3:00:53 PM   
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It's exactly what those idiots want. They want to be attacked so they can get all whiny and act like victims.


Seriously, I can't grasp this. How is possible to whimper about being oppressed, while at the same time make loud noises about being so frigging mighty, powerful and racially supreme, and stuff? Do these people have some kind of schizoid impairment?



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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 4:17:25 PM   
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They are marching to call attention to themselves. The best way to deal with groups like this is to ignore them. No counter protests, no press reports, no tv coverage. Just ignore them completely..

I've always thought this exactly. You took the words right out of my keyboard though I would love to sneak around finding positions to launch some soft or rotten tomatoes. Nothing hard that would hurt anyone and totally unseen. It could be an organized effort even. Can you imagine, these guys marching, being totally ignored other than getting pelted with tomatoes or pink flour bombs coming out of secret locations along the route ?


So the correct way to deal with these asshats is to assault them, guerilla-style?




Tit for tat, well not quite actually, its not quite the same as whippings, beatings, hangings, blowing people up, murder and all the rest of it. I mean what could be the worst that would happen if you got caught. A slap on the wrist. It would be too much fun to resist.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 5:28:26 PM   
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Nods....it`s pretty revolting.


Ridicule is a great response


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2Mk5gRcTA



Bravo!!! The clowns did the same thing 2 years or so ago in Knoxville. I tried to post the written article but it was finally taken down But I did find the protest on youtube. It just isn't near as funny as the written article was.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 5:43:05 PM   
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Depends, whos calling it?   Black Cops in Memphis? 'Republican' judges in abortion clinic vandalism cases?  Cops unilaterally attacking OWSers?


It does not depend on who's calling it. You want to assault people because some asswipes (it's catchy and is a bit more descriptive than asshat) broke the law against others?!? WTF? How does that make any sense at all?

I know, next time some politician in DC lies (next time one opens his/her mouth), how about you go punch your neighbor? They lied. You assault someone else. Great idea, right?

What you do, MN, is stop worrying about stupid shit that happened (how many years ago?) in Minnesota airport restrooms and deal with the shit that's going on now. You can stick to your guns - sorry - your principles - sorry, again - your delusions of all the stupid shit that happened in the past actually mattering now, or you can stand up for what is right, right now.

Where the fuck does it end? The next guy is going to say, "look. They threw rotten tomatoes because they disagreed with the KKK. Fuck. I don't agree with the KKK, but let's throw rotten cabbage at people who do the Harlem Shake!"


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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 5:44:31 PM   
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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.

How about the equally racist Black Panthers/Muslim Brotherhood being allowed to march in public on the National Mall?



Same response, shame.

My gut response has nothing to do with rights, sure I know all kinda fringe groups have their rights. But that our nation is so far behind what I think that this is even possible is shameful to me.

That we still harbor people that think this kind of display means a thing is horrid and shameful. As in, I'm personally embarrassed for what they don't understand.

The current state of things, of course, many groups I can never approve get to march. But if you ask me what I think, what I think is, DANG, how embarrassing that at this point in time there are humans of such limited capacity.





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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 6:49:27 PM   
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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.



So renounce your citizenship, and get the fuck out. Need bus fare to the airport?

I always say that the answer to free speech used badly, which pretty much covers anything that might come from such a collection of fucktards as the KKK, is more speech. In this case, I'd say rain dances, and prayer circles for thunderstorms, as well as every counter protest that can be mustered.

If we don't support free speech that we despise, we don't support free speech at all. Plus, it makes it much easier to spot the shitheads.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 7:18:23 PM   
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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.



I thought the right to speech was protected why would you be ashamed because you do not like their speech?

There is an incredible amount of speech out here on this board that I think it detestable but I respect everyones right to say it.

Is that not what this country is supposed to be about?

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 7:22:38 PM   
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Nods....it`s pretty revolting.


Ridicule is a great response


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2Mk5gRcTA



Bravo!!! The clowns did the same thing 2 years or so ago in Knoxville. I tried to post the written article but it was finally taken down But I did find the protest on youtube. It just isn't near as funny as the written article was.

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well if you wanna have fun with the kkk members remind them that everyone on the planet originates from a blck tribe in central africa.

some things in life are fucking hilarious.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 7:42:10 PM   
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What's a shame is that most people associate the KKK with ignorant morons. And while I agree, the truth of the matter is that they now have people of power amongst their ranks. For instance judges, attorneys, etc. While there are still toothless, three haired cousin fuckers living on compounds, I'm thinking some of the people planning on coming are the higher powered members. But I do agree, ignoring these people completely and holding them accountable for the cost of extra police, is a great idea. I have been told by a few Memphis friends that there are talks of a large number of black people planning on attending the festivities. Not to cause trouble but just to show a presence.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 7:42:13 PM   
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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.


I completely agree with your distaste of the KKK's beliefs. I completely disagree that they should not be allowed free speech.

What I am more ashamed of, is that there are still people so stupid as to think skin color makes a difference; that we, as the human race, haven't figured out that skin color is not a determining factor in personality.

Everybody has the right to be wrong. Some people abuse that right. The KKK and the Neo-Nazi's, IMO, abuse that right.



What I wonder is why is it always simplified into a "skin color" issue? Other people who have opinions have their reasons. And it seems the most "tolerant" people are the ones who create such an issue as well. The biggest reaction and the largest hypocrisy. If hate is apparently the worst thing there is, why is that all I hear coming from the mouths of the people who think everyone has the right to think and speak how they please? Who knows, maybe it's just a distraction that they know for damn sure will work...

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 9:07:01 PM   
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All around the world are places that harbor the same or worse.

By letting them be seen for what they are, their numbers and their appeal are kept at a ridiculously low level.

If you are ashamed that we haven't driven them underground, and given them a solid raison d'etre, that we haven't martyred them so that they can boost their membership and their violence, your shame is misplaced.


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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.

How about the equally racist Black Panthers/Muslim Brotherhood being allowed to march in public on the National Mall?



Same response, shame.

My gut response has nothing to do with rights, sure I know all kinda fringe groups have their rights. But that our nation is so far behind what I think that this is even possible is shameful to me.

That we still harbor people that think this kind of display means a thing is horrid and shameful. As in, I'm personally embarrassed for what they don't understand.

The current state of things, of course, many groups I can never approve get to march. But if you ask me what I think, what I think is, DANG, how embarrassing that at this point in time there are humans of such limited capacity.







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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 9:10:45 PM   
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No, the actual Klan is pretty much relegated to the Jerry Springer guest list these days.
The more educated, and better connected racists/supremacists have moved on into other venues like StormFront, and W.A.R. etc.


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What's a shame is that most people associate the KKK with ignorant morons. And while I agree, the truth of the matter is that they now have people of power amongst their ranks. For instance judges, attorneys, etc. While there are still toothless, three haired cousin fuckers living on compounds, I'm thinking some of the people planning on coming are the higher powered members. But I do agree, ignoring these people completely and holding them accountable for the cost of extra police, is a great idea. I have been told by a few Memphis friends that there are talks of a large number of black people planning on attending the festivities. Not to cause trouble but just to show a presence.



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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 9:27:29 PM   
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That the KKK are allowed to march in public makes me ashamed to be a human being an an American citizen.


I completely agree with your distaste of the KKK's beliefs. I completely disagree that they should not be allowed free speech.

What I am more ashamed of, is that there are still people so stupid as to think skin color makes a difference; that we, as the human race, haven't figured out that skin color is not a determining factor in personality.

Everybody has the right to be wrong. Some people abuse that right. The KKK and the Neo-Nazi's, IMO, abuse that right.



What I wonder is why is it always simplified into a "skin color" issue? Other people who have opinions have their reasons. And it seems the most "tolerant" people are the ones who create such an issue as well. The biggest reaction and the largest hypocrisy. If hate is apparently the worst thing there is, why is that all I hear coming from the mouths of the people who think everyone has the right to think and speak how they please? Who knows, maybe it's just a distraction that they know for damn sure will work...


Umm, huh? It seems like you want to say something, but you're being a bit vague. Besides, "why is it always simplified into a "skin color" issue" is a question for the KKK, not the rest of us.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 9:31:02 PM   
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The more eductated, and better connected racists/supremacists have moved on into other venues like StormFront, and W.A.R. etc.



Yep. Stormfront. W.A.R., or in one case; the DNP How Far The "Mighty" Have Fallen

Poor Alec, once the poster child for progressive(ism) and hatred of the right is now just another member of the "Lunatic Left". I feel bad.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 9:44:04 PM   
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The more eductated, and better connected racists/supremacists have moved on into other venues like StormFront, and W.A.R. etc.



Yep. Stormfront. W.A.R., or in one case; the DNP How Far The "Mighty" Have Fallen

Poor Alec, once the poster child for hatred of the right and progressive(ism) is now just another member of the "Lunatic Left". I feel bad.

Tear.



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Add to that breitbart,foxnoise,world net daily,rush and other rightist media,who spew bigot-code-messaging and dirt-bag race baiting....in clear text.......... hundreds of times a day........... to millions of punks.




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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/20/2013 10:09:00 PM   
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In response to Owner, Daddysatyr, and Powergamez-

Thanks, didn't know the name for the organizations. Still idiotic IMO.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/21/2013 2:16:52 AM   
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If we don't support free speech that we despise, we don't support free speech at all. Plus, it makes it much easier to spot the shitheads.


How is it that people don't recognize this truth?


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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/21/2013 2:35:50 AM   
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This isn't off topic, and I don't want to derail the thread with any atheist bullshit.

The church that I used to attend had members that would regularly talk about "evils" in things that made no sense. I would get so angry (angry enough that I no longer attend that church), and I would ask my friend, "how can that not bother you? They are so wrong!" He would agree that they were wrong, but said that he just figured that they didn't know any better. That viewpoint has helped him to continue attending.

What's my point?

I look at these organizations and my friends words about people not knowing any better bounces around in my head. These groups have these beliefs because of ignorance. They really just don't know better. Now I'm not saying they deserve a pass because of ignorance, but if they weren't ignorant, they would know better. Of course, the other option if they aren't ignorant, they are simply hateful human beings.

The worst part about them is that they instill hate in others, in US. Their ignorance, their hatred, gets us so angry that we become filled with hate for them. Now I know many people will deny this, others will embrace the idea. Either way you go, deep down, you know it is true. We hate them. When they start talking about their "beliefs," spewing their rhetoric, we hate them. We want to beat them in the head with a baseball bat in the hope of knocking some sense into their thick skulls.

Isn't that the true evil in the world? That these groups can make people who are otherwise loving, compassionate, empathetic, intelligent, educated, etc. feel such hate, and want to eradicate them from our world. Their goal is to spread hate, to make us believe as they do. They do spread hate, but they spread it to the rest of the world who really don't want to feel that way.

As vincent said, they have the right to march, and charging them more for a permit would create a situation where the price of permits could become prohibitive for any group that someone in charge didn't like. That would not be a good thing.

However, making them pay for the massive amounts of extra security would not be setting the same type of precedent. After all, realistically ANY group that wants to assemble that would require such enormous amounts of security should be responsible for those extra costs. As long as the municipalities show itemized lists of those expenses, they should be paid.

Now, I really like the whole clown thing. I think having some type of circus assembly at the same time could be interesting. Every time one of these idiots opened their mouth to spew more hate, an orchestra could start playing that circus song. In my mind, it shows how much of a joke they are.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/21/2013 4:30:22 AM   
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I don't want to push any group underground, and I support any group's right to free speech. My post was not about that, my response was that on a gut level, I'm shamed that human beings have not evolved further at this point in time.

And I don't just have shame about racial bias, war, famine, immigrants who pay to get to the US so they can be used as sex workers, all that shames me.

I understand that as a race, humans are where they are. But we are constantly changing and evolving, and I like to think for the better. And I can admit that, despite how wonderful we humans are in some ways, socially (and as a group) I wish we could evolve a bit faster.

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RE: KKK marching in Memphis - 2/21/2013 6:56:54 AM   
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What's a shame is that most people associate the KKK with ignorant morons. And while I agree, the truth of the matter is that they now have people of power amongst their ranks. For instance judges, attorneys, etc. While there are still toothless, three haired cousin fuckers living on compounds, I'm thinking some of the people planning on coming are the higher powered members. But I do agree, ignoring these people completely and holding them accountable for the cost of extra police, is a great idea. I have been told by a few Memphis friends that there are talks of a large number of black people planning on attending the festivities. Not to cause trouble but just to show a presence.

Yanno, DommeK, I sympathize with your concern. They are a despicable organization with a murderous history. But they are only a shadow of what they once were as late as the early part of the 20th C.

Here is a list of Presidents and other notables who were members of the Klan. (Disclaimer: this is internet info)

Here is a photo of the clan marching with 35000 members in Washington, D.C. 1925.






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