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TheBanshee -> Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 8:01:53 AM)
I just read an article about the movie remake of "Death Wish" being put on hold because someone backed out of the deal. That got me to thinking about Bronson in the Magnificent Seven. If they did a remake, who would you cast in M7? (yes, those purists would say you should never remake that movie but remember it was already a remake in its own day) What movie do you think would be interesting to have a remake done? I was thinking Westworld - awesome thriller (cheesy as it was)

Duskypearls -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 8:30:15 AM)
Oh Lawd, I remember Westworld....where nothing can go wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.... That was wierd!

Level -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 8:38:38 AM)
There's been talk of redoing WestWorld, Schwarzenegger was attached to it, once upon a time. I'd like to see a new Mag7, as well.

jlf1961 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 9:09:48 AM)
Well on the subject of remakes, the people behind the remake of "True Grit" have a special place in hell reserved for them... You do not remake a John Wayne classic. Then of course you have the remake of "the day the earth stood still." A slow death on spit over a slow fire would not be torture enough for that travesty. Lets not forget the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds. The exercise machines used by the Spanish Inquisition would be perfect for that group to have a spa treatment. The Nightmare on Elm street remakes sucked, as did the Halloween remakes... Basically, anyone that does a remake takes the original script, runs it through a paper shredder a few times, then hires some hack to rewrite the damn thing. You do not remake a classic. If it aint one of the deadly sins, it should be, as well as a capital offense under federal law, and a crime against humanity. If you want a remake done, at least have the decency to allow the generations that saw the original to die off first so we do not have to see tv ads detailing how bad a butcher job was done on a movie they actually enjoyed. Besides, honestly, who could replace Yul Brenner, Charles Bronson, John Wayne, Bogart, Bacall, and all those actual movie stars and do the original justice? Thus speaketh the Grouchy old movie fan with over a thousand classic movies on his hard drives.

TheBanshee -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 9:31:52 AM)
On some levels I do agree with you jlf. Does anyone ever want to see the David Soul Version of Casablanca??? (yes, look it up). The Magnificent Seven itself was a remake of the Seven Samurai - however it was revamped to the old west. No one - NO ONE could replace Yul Brynner and Charles Bronson and company - but a good actor could show another version of a character and make it his own if it is done well. That being said - these are some great movies that you can reintroduce to a younger generation. With new technology the producers aren't quite as limited in what they can offer as far as special effects. It hurts when they do a terrible remake though - and I've also hated some remakes (The Stepford Wives comes to mind - which they remade into a stupid comedy when the 70's version was quite chilling and a real comment on society).

LafayetteLady -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 9:45:37 AM)
I don't think the Jaden Smith remake of Karate Kid was a massacre. I think they kept the premise, and definitely payed homage to the original, but made their own mark. I liked the remake of A Star is Born with Barbra Streisand better than the original with Judy Garland. I will never like the remake of Willy Wonka. Different name or not, it was a remake. Gene Wilder was eclectic. Johnny Depp was psychotic. I can't even think of other remakes I know, or ones I would want made...

TheHeretic -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 10:09:27 AM)
They can keep remaking the superhero action flicks all they like. That whole second trilogy of Star Wars? Oh HELL yes, and please don't fuck it up this time. I'd love to see a remake of Goldfinger, with the new Bond, and modern effects technology. The Magnificent 7? Why not? Just make sure they start with a clear vision of the story to be told, rather than the producers pulling in an A-list cast, and then assigning a committee to write the script. Set it in a small ethnic enclave, inside an entirely urban environment.

johnsmith13 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 10:31:53 AM)
a remake of the magnificent seven? no way, the seven cast members would draw at least 60 million in salary. no way it will make its cost back.

Level -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 10:33:05 AM)
I'd like to see Daredevil done right; the entire Frank Miller run needs a David Fincher to bring it to life. It'd make the Dark Knight trilogy pale in comparison.

DarkSteven -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 11:16:45 AM)
Some (very few) remakes I liked Little Shop of Horrors, from the Jack Nicholson to the Rick Moranis/Bill Murray/Steve Martin one. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, from the David Niven/Marlo Brando one to the Steve Martin/Michael Caine one. Sabrina, largely due to Greg Kinnear. Pygmalion to My Fair Lady Romeo and Juliet to West Side Story

Nosathro -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 11:26:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Well on the subject of remakes, the people behind the remake of "True Grit" have a special place in hell reserved for them... You do not remake a John Wayne classic. Then of course you have the remake of "the day the earth stood still." A slow death on spit over a slow fire would not be torture enough for that travesty. Lets not forget the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds. The exercise machines used by the Spanish Inquisition would be perfect for that group to have a spa treatment. The Nightmare on Elm street remakes sucked, as did the Halloween remakes... Basically, anyone that does a remake takes the original script, runs it through a paper shredder a few times, then hires some hack to rewrite the damn thing. You do not remake a classic. If it aint one of the deadly sins, it should be, as well as a capital offense under federal law, and a crime against humanity. If you want a remake done, at least have the decency to allow the generations that saw the original to die off first so we do not have to see tv ads detailing how bad a butcher job was done on a movie they actually enjoyed. Besides, honestly, who could replace Yul Brenner, Charles Bronson, John Wayne, Bogart, Bacall, and all those actual movie stars and do the original justice? Thus speaketh the Grouchy old movie fan with over a thousand classic movies on his hard drives. Believe it or not I was an extra in the Tom Cruise War of the Worlds, however I and about every other extra walked off when we got hot mud poured on us, we were not told this was going to happen. My agent apologized and so did the studio but none of us returned. Also as to remakes, There is Total Recall. Now if you really want to talk about bad remakes, how about this one kinda sorts of. They are making a sequel to the 1959 movie "The Killer Shrews. John Best is the only actor left alive to be in it. However John Schneider and Bruse Davison are in this one called "The Return of the Killer Shrews" Remember the first movie was produced and stared Ken Curtis aka "Festus" on Gunsmoke. Both the orginal and sequal were filmed in Dallas Texas.

Focus50 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 1:26:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheBanshee I just read an article about the movie remake of "Death Wish" being put on hold because someone backed out of the deal. That got me to thinking about Bronson in the Magnificent Seven. If they did a remake, who would you cast in M7? (yes, those purists would say you should never remake that movie but remember it was already a remake in its own day) What movie do you think would be interesting to have a remake done? I was thinking Westworld - awesome thriller (cheesy as it was) In this age of special effects (or FX), I'm all for remakes AS LONG AS THEY'RE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL. And I'm seeing a few that just aren't.... Will Smith's remake (even the name escapes me) of Chuck Heston's "Omega Man" was god-awful despite better FX and Jeff Bridges' "Rooster Cogburn" probably and rightly had the "Duke" turning in his grave. Ok, virtually zero FX there - so what was the point? The trouble with too much FX is that the story often gets lost. Brendan Fraser's 3D extravaganza, "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" was just mind-numbingly boring as far as actually telling (or selling....) a tale of adventure.... I like adventure and I personally think "The Phantom" could go again after Billy Zane's somewhat campy portrayal of the legendary comic figure. Mind you, not that it wasn't entertaining - but still.... Focus.

Level -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 1:39:22 PM)
I was disappointed with Bridges True Grit too. It's hard to out-Duke the Duke.

jlf1961 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 1:49:44 PM)
There has been talk of a remake of Rocky Horror with Johnny Depp as Frankenfurter. Also in the rumor category are remakes of Forbidden Planet, Creature From the Black Lagoon and a few others. Now there was a remake of Sahara, a Bogart movie dealing with a tank crew in WWII fighting with the British against the Germans. The did a remake with Jim Belushi that was actually quite good. They just about followed the original scene for scene. The remake of Psycho was not as good as the original, but considering that Hitchcock directed it, I fail to see how any one today can build suspense the way he did. There are two problems today, as I see it, Directors depend on special effects and in your face dialogue and violence. The actors are not given any time to actually develop their idea of the character, or they try to recreate the original work. That and I personally feel that there are few performers in Hollywood that are of the same caliber as the likes of Bogart, Wayne, Bacall, Grant, Claude Rains, Anthony Quinn, Katherine Hepburn, Spencer Tracy and others. And those that are in that league do not seem to want to do a halfassed remake of a classic movie. Of the great directors of today, only a few are actually given a production schedule that would actually give them the chance to do a quality job, and they demand top dollar. And the cost would be considerable. I read once that to do Forbidden Planet would be triple what star wars cost, and that was in the mid 90's.

breagha -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 1:55:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level I'd like to see Daredevil done right; the entire Frank Miller run needs a David Fincher to bring it to life. It'd make the Dark Knight trilogy pale in comparison. you have something against Affleck? i like the Frank Miller idea. Anything he's ever done. Not Miller's work but i would love to see the Preacher series come to life in film.

Level -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 2:10:42 PM)
Nope, I think Affleck is hella talented, but that movie was weak, considering the wealth of material they had to work with. Miller is one of the ones that buried the idea that comics are for kids. Preacher is another freaking gold mine of potential. It's been optioned umpteen times, but no one is doing anything with it. I feel the same way about Sandman. If they can do a decent Watchmen movie, then they can pull that off.

jlf1961 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 2:19:27 PM)
I was not satisfied with the remake of spider man, but hey, I was a little disappointed in the first version... but then I grew up on the spider man comics. As for Daredevil, I honestly dont think that Affleck was not given the chance to give life to the part. I was so looking forward to the Dark Knight trilogy, but was sadly disappointed. In the original comic series, Batman would as soon as kill someone than take them in. Then Big Brother started complaining and Batman was turned from a cold blooded vigilante to a liberal wuss. Ghost Rider was not worth the effort to run a camera, simply because Nick Gage seemed to be doing a half assed job of acting. If you are going to make a remake, use the original script, cast actors that actually bring a new element to the original, and if that actor happens to be currently on the B list cause he/she hasnt made a name for themselves, fine Forget the big names, they dont always make the movie. And lastly, get away from the in your face shock and awe to get an audience reaction, let the audience emotion build with the scene. Any directing hack can shock an audience, it takes a real master to get the audience to become part of the movie.

Duskypearls -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 2:29:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Well on the subject of remakes, the people behind the remake of "True Grit" have a special place in hell reserved for them... You do not remake a John Wayne classic. Then of course you have the remake of "the day the earth stood still." A slow death on spit over a slow fire would not be torture enough for that travesty. Lets not forget the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds. The exercise machines used by the Spanish Inquisition would be perfect for that group to have a spa treatment. The Nightmare on Elm street remakes sucked, as did the Halloween remakes... Basically, anyone that does a remake takes the original script, runs it through a paper shredder a few times, then hires some hack to rewrite the damn thing. You do not remake a classic. If it aint one of the deadly sins, it should be, as well as a capital offense under federal law, and a crime against humanity. If you want a remake done, at least have the decency to allow the generations that saw the original to die off first so we do not have to see tv ads detailing how bad a butcher job was done on a movie they actually enjoyed. Besides, honestly, who could replace Yul Brenner, Charles Bronson, John Wayne, Bogart, Bacall, and all those actual movie stars and do the original justice? Thus speaketh the Grouchy old movie fan with over a thousand classic movies on his hard drives. Truth be told, Jeff, the True Grit remake is one of the few (can't think of any others) I thought was better than the original. I hope you, and God, can forgive me for saying that, as it sounds like you're a die-hard John Wayne fan. No offense intended!

jlf1961 -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 2:33:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Duskypearls quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Well on the subject of remakes, the people behind the remake of "True Grit" have a special place in hell reserved for them... You do not remake a John Wayne classic. Then of course you have the remake of "the day the earth stood still." A slow death on spit over a slow fire would not be torture enough for that travesty. Lets not forget the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds. The exercise machines used by the Spanish Inquisition would be perfect for that group to have a spa treatment. The Nightmare on Elm street remakes sucked, as did the Halloween remakes... Basically, anyone that does a remake takes the original script, runs it through a paper shredder a few times, then hires some hack to rewrite the damn thing. You do not remake a classic. If it aint one of the deadly sins, it should be, as well as a capital offense under federal law, and a crime against humanity. If you want a remake done, at least have the decency to allow the generations that saw the original to die off first so we do not have to see tv ads detailing how bad a butcher job was done on a movie they actually enjoyed. Besides, honestly, who could replace Yul Brenner, Charles Bronson, John Wayne, Bogart, Bacall, and all those actual movie stars and do the original justice? Thus speaketh the Grouchy old movie fan with over a thousand classic movies on his hard drives. Truth be told, Jeff, the True Grit remake is one of the few (can't think of any others) I thought was better than the original. I hope you, and God, can forgive me for saying that, as it sounds like you're a die-hard John Wayne fan. No offense intended! No, I am not a die hard John Wayne fan... I just have all the movies that have ever been released on video in my collection... and I cried when he died. So in reference to your sacrilege, may you be spanked until you cant sit down for a week....

breagha -> RE: Movie Remakes (2/24/2013 4:01:39 PM)
Affleck is hella talented? i disagree. he's a pretty decent director though. Preacher= Goldmine = true! Sandman would be great... if done correctly. I enjoyed Watchmen... Y would be an interesting one to tackle as well. quote: ORIGINAL: Level Nope, I think Affleck is hella talented, but that movie was weak, considering the wealth of material they had to work with. Miller is one of the ones that buried the idea that comics are for kids. Preacher is another freaking gold mine of potential. It's been optioned umpteen times, but no one is doing anything with it. I feel the same way about Sandman. If they can do a decent Watchmen movie, then they can pull that off.

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