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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 1:20:14 PM   
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For the almighty to affect the behavior of politicians two things are necessary, the politicians would have to have a soul, and secondly they would have to give up their belief that they are God.

in roman times the biggest guys declared themselves gods.


See how well that worked out for them?

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 1:24:33 PM   
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For the almighty to affect the behavior of politicians two things are necessary, the politicians would have to have a soul, and secondly they would have to give up their belief that they are God.

in roman times the biggest guys declared themselves gods.

See how well that worked out for them?

maybe it worked well for some time unless like nero they believed it too. lol

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 1:25:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Imperial cult didn't last for that long and only ever apotheosised (if that's the right term, which it probably isn't) less than a dozen Emperors. It was basically something that Augustus set up to insist that him and his step dad were a bit special, and that got trotted out a few more times after that before Christianity was adopted as the new State religion. The only one of them who seems to have actually believed that he really was a living God was Caligula, and he was so barking that Bob Guccione made a film about him...

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 1:28:39 PM   
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The Imperial cult didn't last for that long and only ever apotheosised (if that's the right term, which it probably isn't) less than a dozen Emperors. It was basically something that Augustus set up to insist that him and his step dad were a bit special, and that got trotted out a few more times after that before Christianity was adopted as the new State religion.

nah it was common practice http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/romannames1/a/DeifiedEmperors.htm

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 2:02:16 PM   
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Does anybody on a political or religious forum ever consider that he just might NOT know everything, that just maybe he could be wrong? I rarely participate in this forum because mostly all I ever see here is people screaming at one another, throwing up any and all statistics and "facts" that support their beliefs while discounting any contrary evidence.
Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?


I am so with you on this. It really bugs the shit out of me the way people bicker about all this stuff. I mean, I know I'm right, but so many people still just go on and on and on being wrong. Sheesh!






You cant be right... the poster that keeps bringing up the various conspiracies such as 9/11, and the fact the British crown owns the US says he is always right.

Then there are the other posters that claim they are never wrong...

Lets not forget the people from other countries that think they are always right...

Which leads us to the question, if everyone is always right regardless of the opinions they are voicing on various topics, then who is wrong?

But in truth, I get my information from a sentient being that is never wrong about anything but his choice on alcoholic beverages. I get my information from Harvey, a 6'3" tall invisible rabbit.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 2:08:57 PM   
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You're forgetting the Mail: apparently that's a reputable source if you live on the other side of the Atlantic to the one that it's published on.
(The corollary to that, of course, is that the BBC can't ever be a reliable news source because it's publicly funded and so in thrall to the Conspiracy headed by her maj and the puppet government she allows to be elected as a distraction...)



Her maj is not the one in control of the British government, she is actually a minion of the house cats from another planet who are controlled by Obama.

And I for one do not find the mail a reputable source...

cracked.com however.....

...and would otherwise be on the dole. Wait a minute...she is on the dole.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 2:15:02 PM   
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Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?

I don't know how I'm really supposed to answer that question. Yes, I have changed my stance on issues... although typically not on this particular forum. Here there generally isn't enough fact presented to do so. Am I "open-minded"? Really I think other people need to answer that. Me answering it for myself is kind of self-serving.

Are there some things that it'd take a mountain of evidence to convince me that my current position is incorrect? Yes... that's because I've seen a mountain of evidence already convincing me my current position is right.... or I've seen one single statement right from the horse's mouth. My thoughts about Obama, for instance, generally are drawn directly from his own speeches and then his subsequent actions. I'll change my mind when at least one banker is in jail... or has even been brought up on charges. I'll change my mind when he begins to dismantle DHS. Up until then he is the [most current] architect of the US police state.

What I can tell you is that my facebook and twitter streams quite consciously include a smattering of liberal, conservative, and neutral sources. I do my google searching with a similar mindset. I try hard not to get locked into a mirror box and google makes that all too easy to do with the way they "tune" their results. Does all that amount to "open-minded"? I don't know. You tell me.


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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 2:21:39 PM   
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Some times I think people would doubt the source if God Himself announced the truth from the heavens.



I certainly would since I believe in neither gods nor heavens. But, I am, at least, willing to concede the possibility that they might exist, unlikely though it seems to me.

That's just it, I try and I think relatively successfully whatever that is here, to simply ask questions. I do not always follow the straight and yes narrow...but I try.

As for Gods, I agree. First I don't know which Gods to believe and or whose Gods to believe anymore. So I keep it simple, I don't believe any Gods.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 2:24:22 PM   
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Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?

No, I am way to sanguine and very busy too, being arrogantly certain in my self-righteousness.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 3:21:44 PM   
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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/26/2013 11:16:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kudos to those that kept on topic despite disruptions on the thread. My apologies for taking so long. The disruptions have been handled,. enjoy the thread!

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 4:02:36 AM   
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Does anybody on a political or religious forum ever consider that he just might NOT know everything, that just maybe he could be wrong? I rarely participate in this forum because mostly all I ever see here is people screaming at one another, throwing up any and all statistics and "facts" that support their beliefs while discounting any contrary evidence.

Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?


For some, being "right" is more important than doing what's right.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 5:20:19 AM   
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You're forgetting the Mail: apparently that's a reputable source if you live on the other side of the Atlantic to the one that it's published on.
(The corollary to that, of course, is that the BBC can't ever be a reliable news source because it's publicly funded and so in thrall to the Conspiracy headed by her maj and the puppet government she allows to be elected as a distraction...)



Her maj is not the one in control of the British government, she is actually a minion of the house cats from another planet who are controlled by Obama.

And I for one do not find the mail a reputable source...

cracked.com however.....

...and would otherwise be on the dole. Wait a minute...she is on the dole.

No, she's on the civil list.
It's like the dole but pays a lot more, and you don't have to go out and do unpaid workfare while you're claiming.


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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 5:32:04 AM   
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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 11:49:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		At times if you do not argue, your silence is taken as acquiesence. If I do not speak when you speak, you may think I think you are right and so might others. So even bickering can serve a purpose if only to show one resisting voice in the madness. I don't get into religious debates though, I simply smile and say that person is wrong especially when it comes to Christianity or Islam. They'll never listen to me no matter how much reality I point out so it's a waste of my time. As long as they don't try to take what's mine, I have little reason to bother with them. I like atheists, they don't like me, because I like to make the point that without a soul, what is a person without a soul, but meat. And meat serves no other purpose then to be eaten and shat out. A point that doesn't sit well with some atheists.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 1:02:48 PM   
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since it's apropos of this thread I was just going to post about red/blue poverty statistics. Rather than regurgitating some old info I had, however, I decided to dig up current data. That data conflicted with what I was originally going to post so I changed my post. I also provided my summary data (constructed by me in Excel) and links to the original sources.

Us engineers are like that. Reality wins. Ideology is for Republicans and Democrats.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 3:40:18 PM   
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Does anybody on a political or religious forum ever consider that he just might NOT know everything, that just maybe he could be wrong? I rarely participate in this forum because mostly all I ever see here is people screaming at one another, throwing up any and all statistics and "facts" that support their beliefs while discounting any contrary evidence.

Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?


I actually do know everything.

(It's a gift and a curse).

I've learned to deal with it.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 4:40:14 PM   
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Kudos to those that kept on topic despite disruptions on the thread. My apologies for taking so long. The disruptions have been handled,. enjoy the thread!


Seemed to me that some of the disruptions beautifully illustrated the whole point of the thread. But, okay.

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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 4:47:52 PM   
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For some, being "right" is more important than doing what's right.


The problem of course is that no one agrees on what is the right thing to do.


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RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. - 2/27/2013 5:03:22 PM   
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At least that's what Master says <it could be he's being sarcastic though. >


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