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Rule -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (2/28/2013 12:56:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Well see, I am a supergenius and hence I am nearly always right. But I do use a simple trick to improve on my performance: I only post an assertion when I am absolutely certain that it is correct; when I am not certain about something I do not make an assertion about it.

Out of curiosity can you name something in the real world (as opposed to logical constructs like mathematical tautologies) that you are "absolutely certain of". That's a pretty damned small list in my own head.

The existence of unicorns?

Quite! In fact there are several varieties/classes of unicorns.




jlf1961 -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (2/28/2013 12:56:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Rule
Well see, I am a supergenius and hence I am nearly always right.


A "low IQ supergenius" if I recall correctly.



Wile E. Coyote is a super genius, and before I blocked rule, I found him to be in the same category.




Rule -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (2/28/2013 1:00:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Well see, I am a supergenius and hence I am nearly always right.

A "low IQ supergenius" if I recall correctly.

...that would have to be mere genius. A super genius would...always be right.

I am a modest low IQ supergenius.

Besides, someone who is convinced that he is always right in my opinion is rather dumb - as in my opinion are high IQ people too.




Rule -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (2/28/2013 1:11:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Well see, I am a supergenius and hence I am nearly always right.

A "low IQ supergenius" if I recall correctly.

Wile E. Coyote is a super genius, and before I blocked rule, I found him to be in the same category.

Thank you, jlf1961.




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (2/28/2013 6:27:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

According to my niece, a very dominant personality, there are three universal laws that apply:

1) women are always right.
2) Men are always wrong.
3) If a woman is wrong see rule one.


So, if Phyllis Schlafly were to discuss politics with Michelle Obama, they'd both be right?




TheHeretic -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/1/2013 8:00:32 PM)

Nice to see that this was opened back up, but I may have forgotten what I was going to say, originally.

Vince;
Perhaps the reason the question came from an irregular participant was because he sees enough of the shit that is the norm, and is a bit leery of jumping in? Hell, we get a few who come in stupid, have their little snark handed back to them, as a side to their ass on a platter, and never venture down again.

I did run across the post I've quoted below, and that seems like a good place to pick up.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The problem of course is that no one agrees on what is the right thing to do.




I think this is about half right. When people are willing to communicate honestly, I think we can very often agree on what the right thing to do is, but we may fundamentally disagree on the right way to it. Those disagreements can run very deep, and get into core beliefs of human nature, and the proper role of government or spiritual belief, which aren't going to change overnight, if at all.

Let's take poverty in the US, for an example. I can only think of one person in this section who would (privately) cheer the prospect of increasing numbers of people living in abject poverty, and that would be based solely on a belief that they would vote for Democrats. We can very nearly all be be in perfect agreement that reducing poverty is the right thing to do. The initial break is going to be over the right way to address it. I think the answer lies in a short term safety net, genuine education, opportunity, and personal freedom. Others believe it lies in providing a bare subsistence income, and lots of little programs, and reject the notion of predictable negative consequences in that approach. I think I'm right. It's pretty rare to find a conversation where that difference of core belief is even going to be acknowledged, much less become the theme.


There is a good book called, "The Righteous Mind," by Jonathan Haidt which delves into the topic at hand. At one point, the author discusses internet political forums exactly like what we have here, and says the chances of getting anywhere in such a format are essentially nil. I say it still beats anything in the realm of reality TV, and here I am.




Kirata -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 3:54:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

There is a good book called, "The Righteous Mind," by Jonathan Haidt which delves into the topic at hand.

I haven't read "The Righteous Mind," so I don't know if this connects, but Haidt gave a TED talk a while back:

The moral roots of liberals and conservatives

K.




MrRodgers -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 4:42:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

According to my niece, a very dominant personality, there are three universal laws that apply:

1) women are always right.
2) Men are always wrong.
3) If a woman is wrong see rule one.


So, if Phyllis Schlafly were to discuss politics with Michelle Obama, they'd both be right?

By the numbers...absolutely.

In America though, I am thinking IQ should be income quotient. Everybody knows here in the US, the richer you are the smarter, the poorer...the dumber.

Think of it this way...Donald Trump, Steve Forbes and Herman Cain must be geniuses at least, what with all of the money they have.




MrRodgers -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 4:49:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

You're forgetting the Mail: apparently that's a reputable source if you live on the other side of the Atlantic to the one that it's published on.
(The corollary to that, of course, is that the BBC can't ever be a reliable news source because it's publicly funded and so in thrall to the Conspiracy headed by her maj and the puppet government she allows to be elected as a distraction...)



Her maj is not the one in control of the British government, she is actually a minion of the house cats from another planet who are controlled by Obama.

And I for one do not find the mail a reputable source...

cracked.com however.....

...and would otherwise be on the dole. Wait a minute...she is on the dole.

No, she's on the civil list.
It's like the dole but pays a lot more, and you don't have to go out and do unpaid workfare while you're claiming.
[;)]

Now that's nice 'work' if you can get it. Do all of those 'Lords' and 'Sirs'get a stipend too ?




MrRodgers -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 5:02:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: breagha


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

I actually do know everything.

(It's a gift and a curse).

I've learned to deal with it.


ha i love this answer.

I am not so sure. If one already knows everything, there would be nothing left to learn, even how to endure the burden of already knowing everything.




TheHeretic -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 9:33:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

There is a good book called, "The Righteous Mind," by Jonathan Haidt which delves into the topic at hand.

I haven't read "The Righteous Mind," so I don't know if this connects, but Haidt gave a TED talk a while back:

The moral roots of liberals and conservatives

K.




It connects quite a bit, Kirata. I found the book well worth the read.




LaTigresse -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/2/2013 9:40:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Does anybody on a political or religious forum ever consider that he just might NOT know everything, that just maybe he could be wrong? I rarely participate in this forum because mostly all I ever see here is people screaming at one another, throwing up any and all statistics and "facts" that support their beliefs while discounting any contrary evidence.

Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude?


I, obviously, am always right, and know everything, of course...........but there are good reasons, mostly given in the OP, that I don't often post in this section.[;)]




JeffBC -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/3/2013 8:20:27 AM)

~so in the interests of full disclosure~
It's become clear to me that I was wrong again. I had, at least, partially believed the FEMA camp thing. I had reason to dig into that one recently and it didn't take much digging to find out one of two things was true:

a) The FEMA camps are made up shit recycled over the last 15-20 years by the store food, buy guns crowd.
b) There is a deliberate misinformation campaign going on by the US government to make it look that way.

I'm currently going with option (a). The problem I have is that option (b) is so plausible. I'm not the only one who thinks that politicians are lying, cheating assholes who will do anything to gain money and power. So you become a "conspiracy theorist" when you follow that thought to it's reasonable conclusion... you can't trust what the US government says. That leaves you kind of swinging in the wind though. Now you are stuck sifting through the stream of random conspiracy theories floating around trying to make sense of which ones are real and which are just a theory.




Moonhead -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/3/2013 10:15:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

You're forgetting the Mail: apparently that's a reputable source if you live on the other side of the Atlantic to the one that it's published on.
(The corollary to that, of course, is that the BBC can't ever be a reliable news source because it's publicly funded and so in thrall to the Conspiracy headed by her maj and the puppet government she allows to be elected as a distraction...)



Her maj is not the one in control of the British government, she is actually a minion of the house cats from another planet who are controlled by Obama.

And I for one do not find the mail a reputable source...

cracked.com however.....

...and would otherwise be on the dole. Wait a minute...she is on the dole.

No, she's on the civil list.
It's like the dole but pays a lot more, and you don't have to go out and do unpaid workfare while you're claiming.
[;)]

Now that's nice 'work' if you can get it. Do all of those 'Lords' and 'Sirs'get a stipend too ?

You're going to have to wait until one of the mod squad pulls their finger out and approves this before reading the reply, but...

Nope. The civil list is (technically) just for the royal family these days, which is a fair chunk of the aristocracy, but still a fairly small number, even with the occasional pension paid out to former Royal employees. Very few of the hereditary nobility we have have any connection to Her Maj and her extended family of goblins, freaks and weirdoes, and as for the various wankers who insist on people using a meaningless title they got in the honours list a decade or two back, they'd have to marry a hobgoblin related to somebody called Windsor to get their nose into that particular trough.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: I'm right and everybody else is wrong. (3/3/2013 10:59:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Does anybody on a political or religious forum ever consider that he just might NOT know everything (no), that just maybe he could be wrong? I rarely participate in this forum because mostly all I ever see here is people screaming at one another, throwing up any and all statistics and "facts" that support their beliefs while discounting any contrary evidence.

Don't any of you self righteous screamers ever get tired of your own arrogant certitude? (Hasn't struck me yet, as best as I can discern).





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