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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 2:57:11 PM   
Cilicia


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I am very interested right now in rituals and protocols


http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/2012/10/15/your-daily-creepout-leonard-lake-and-charles-ngs-list-of-rules/index.html

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 3:23:08 PM   
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I am very interested right now in rituals and protocols, just to see what's out there. I've done some pretty extensive searching here on the message boards and anywhere else on the internet I could think of. A lot of what I've come across so far is just variations of the same thing. For anyone that is willing to share, do you have any rules, rituals or protocols that are unique and different from everything else that's out there?

I am also very interested in what people have come up with in regard to hand gestures, postures or positions that a sub/slave could use when put on speech restrictions, or just simply in place of verbal communication.


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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 3:36:59 PM   
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He opens doors unless he's carrying heavy stuff in which case I try to get them for him. He gets car doors if parallel parked, if in a parking lot it depends on how far over the line the car next to us is. Common sense stuff.

He holds my hand crossing the street. I'm a New Yorker, I always jay walk. He disapproves. And I have some vision problems including depth perception so hand holding makes it easier for me to step down when I can't judge how far down is.

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 4:14:23 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		was just sitting here reading this and another popped into my head. I carry all bags or packages unless they're too heavy or some other reason why I can't.




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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 8:22:44 PM   
xssve


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With my first 24/7 Master, I walked beside him on his left. That was so his "sword" arm was free and available in case he had to protect me from anything.

LOLOL. Yeah well since I don't normally wear a sword when I go to the mall I'm afraid my reasoning was a bit more pragmatic and inspired more by The Dog Whisperer than Gor.


It's military protocol to carry anything you're carrying in your left hand so as to keep your right arm free for defense.

But yeah, your right arm is your sword arm, your left, your shield arm.

I believe in some Muslim countries, the women always walk in front, by a fair distance - in case there are land mines.

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/27/2013 10:17:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's kind of hard to think of things because they are just so ingrained into everyday practice...but there are a few that come to mind.

Everyday, he is the one to put my collar on/remove it (it comes off for showers and sleep.) I never do it myself. We also have a rule that I cannot leave our bedroom without my collar on unless he gives me permission to do so.

When we are walking together, I am on his left side; it's not really an official rule, but it's so much habit for us that it feels uncomfortable for me to walk on his right side. I also walk slightly behind him most of the time--it just feels more comfortable and secure, especially when meeting new people, as I'm shy and he's more forward, and with him in the front he does the talking first.

There are lots of little things like this, but off the top of my head those are a few.


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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 11:30:38 AM   
xssve


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Respect other peoples property.

Don't wash my cast iron with soap.

If you're riding in somebody's car, it's their car, including the radio, your job is to assist the driver, not distract them.

If you're feeling froggy, I'll pull over somewhere.

I'll think of some more, my computer is lagging like a bitch.

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 12:37:17 PM   
OsideGirl


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But Carol walks on my left when we are walking. In fact this was done specifically for mindfulness reasons which is, as I understand it, the normal BDSM reason for this stuff. I think that's the first time I've ever introduced a protocol for that reason but Carol was getting distracted in busy environments outside the house.


Master does something that it's hard to label.

If we're walking on the sidewalk, he will always take the side closest to the road. If someone approaches, he will move so he will encounter that person before I will. In our bedroom, he sleeps on the side of the bed closest to the door. It's gotten so that I take his guidance when he guides me to change sides.


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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 12:50:45 PM   
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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 4:52:07 PM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: Cilicia


quote:

ORIGINAL: Beirin

I am very interested right now in rituals and protocols


http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/2012/10/15/your-daily-creepout-leonard-lake-and-charles-ngs-list-of-rules/index.html


Interesting. Wouldn't be too unreasonable except for the part where they all got killed :(

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 4:55:59 PM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
But Carol walks on my left when we are walking. In fact this was done specifically for mindfulness reasons which is, as I understand it, the normal BDSM reason for this stuff. I think that's the first time I've ever introduced a protocol for that reason but Carol was getting distracted in busy environments outside the house.


Master does something that it's hard to label.

If we're walking on the sidewalk, he will always take the side closest to the road. If someone approaches, he will move so he will encounter that person before I will. In our bedroom, he sleeps on the side of the bed closest to the door. It's gotten so that I take his guidance when he guides me to change sides.



My former Master also would walk on the side closest to the road. According to him, it was so that he would be the one first hit if a car ran off the road. He would also move to "intercept" people coming towards us. If it was a man, it was to potentially protect me. If a woman, he just wanted the chance to get to her before I did ;)

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 5:00:38 PM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: RaspberryLemon

It's kind of hard to think of things because they are just so ingrained into everyday practice...but there are a few that come to mind.

Everyday, he is the one to put my collar on/remove it (it comes off for showers and sleep.) I never do it myself. We also have a rule that I cannot leave our bedroom without my collar on unless he gives me permission to do so.

When we are walking together, I am on his left side; it's not really an official rule, but it's so much habit for us that it feels uncomfortable for me to walk on his right side. I also walk slightly behind him most of the time--it just feels more comfortable and secure, especially when meeting new people, as I'm shy and he's more forward, and with him in the front he does the talking first.

There are lots of little things like this, but off the top of my head those are a few.




When I had my current Owner's training collar, he would take it off before I took showers. He would take my next collar off at night, because it tended to pinch me.

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 5:03:36 PM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: MistressJude

http://sweetsurrender.org/manual.html is my own list of rules and order covering several areas


Thank you MistresJude!

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 2/28/2013 5:06:38 PM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: Beirin
With my first 24/7 Master, I walked beside him on his left. That was so his "sword" arm was free and available in case he had to protect me from anything.

LOLOL. Yeah well since I don't normally wear a sword when I go to the mall I'm afraid my reasoning was a bit more pragmatic and inspired more by The Dog Whisperer than Gor.



*chuckles softly* Caught that did you Jeff? Yes he was Gorean. One of the things in my past I deeply regret.

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 3/1/2013 8:31:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Beirin
*chuckles softly* Caught that did you Jeff? Yes he was Gorean. One of the things in my past I deeply regret.

For the record, I like Gor and there are even a few Goreans I like.... mostly the ones who grew up on Earth rather than Gor.


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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 3/1/2013 8:36:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		In olden days, in this country, chamber pots were emptied out of the bedroom window ont the pavement below.
It was seen as chivelrous for the man to walk to the inside, from the road, so that if a pot was emptied he got it...not his lady.
Has your husband got English ancestors

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 3/1/2013 9:13:10 AM   
Beirin


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: Beirin
*chuckles softly* Caught that did you Jeff? Yes he was Gorean. One of the things in my past I deeply regret.

For the record, I like Gor and there are even a few Goreans I like.... mostly the ones who grew up on Earth rather than Gor.



I don't dislike Gor, and for the most part I've liked the Goreans I've met. He was just one of the ones that gave them, and men in general, a bad name. I suppose it doesn't matter now though, because he's dead

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 3/1/2013 9:14:49 AM   
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In olden days, in this country, chamber pots were emptied out of the bedroom window ont the pavement below.
It was seen as chivelrous for the man to walk to the inside, from the road, so that if a pot was emptied he got it...not his lady.
Has your husband got English ancestors


I hadn't heard of that one! That's good!

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RE: Unique protocols, rules, and rituals. - 3/1/2013 9:21:11 AM   
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