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Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving & r... - 2/27/2013 9:10:57 AM   
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Having been trained as a scientist, I ponder most enigmas by harking back to primordial biological precepts to explain current predilections.

Therefore, I ponder what deepest most unshakable drive is it that makes ME very strongly always want to insert my sperm INSIDE a woman?

It's a complex enigma when you see how it has taken hold of my mind. I ask: Why does my primary mental focus always zoom straight to the imaginary split between the legs of a woman wearing a short skirt. Why do I enjoy my sperm always SWALLOWED (and not spit out!). Why is cumming INSIDE a woman so vastly more pleasurable than wasting it outside, yet, why, is it so enjoyable to see thick gobs of sperm in movies (where the actors invariably pull out so you can see them cum on the outside of the woman's body or face)?

For me, as a man, there is an extremely strong innate permanently-on driving force to inseminate a woman, any way I can, as often as I can, for as many times as I can. It's there - no doubt - but the question is WHY?

Likewise, the question relates to women, but there I know far less about inner drive. I've asked a few women why they like receiving sperm, and most of them looked at me like I was asking them what the moon was made up of. One however, did say she loved the "warm feeling" inside, as she was the only one I've ever met who practically begged me to cum inside of her and not pull out.

In summary, I ask the men why we have such a tremendously strong drive to insert sperm INSIDE of a woman (versus outside); and, I ask with less assurance of the answer, why women might enjoy RECEIVING sperm inside?

Note: This isn't really a 'kink' question per se; it's more of a puzzling enigma of what deeply drives us all to share sperm together.
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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 9:35:44 AM   
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There's a very interesting book called "Sperm Wars: The Evolutionary Logic of Love and Lust".

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 9:46:56 AM   
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I don't experience any of what you describe. In point of fact, some of it (the desire to fuck anything in a skirt) horrifies me in an unbounded risk and endless peril sort of way.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 10:14:38 AM   
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It seems to me you answered your own question in your first sentence. Understanding the biological directives that are hardwired into every one of us is the key to everything else you said. I'm confused why you are confused about this. That, or I am completely missing something. Wouldn't be the first time!

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 10:15:59 AM   
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Well, my thinking on this subject is difficult to test, and even somewhat mysto, since it requires one to construct an abstract object, "Life" - which is both noun and verb, and further, anthropomorphizing it to a degree if only to keep the sheer volume of language needed to describe it at a minimum.

So first, what is "Life"?

The scientific answer is something like: "a structure of amino acid chains that possesses the ability to convert energy (metabolism) and is capable of replication".

I'm not a trained scientist so if you wish to correct this, by all means feel free.

In fact, I even argue with the replication part, I don't think reproduction is required to define "Life" - more of an AI issue, but I believe that in a hierarchy of behaviors, reproduction is a child object of the metabolic parent - i.e., its entirely probably that many forms of metabolizing amino acid structures formed and "died" before one came along that replicated - we would simply have no record of this.

This would mean that replication is an adaptation, necessary to describe evolution - i.e., a non replicating organism (and I'm assuming organic because there is no current definition of inorganic life) - I'm theorizing that a non-replicating organism can evolve, but that it's essentially a dead end in terms of evolution in general.

But, it's an adaptation shared by all organic life we know of, if there are non-replicating organisms they don't live long enough for us to find them, but I don't think it's precluded by a non-teleological empirical understanding of random mutation.

My hypothesis here is that a metabolizing organism is capable of growth, physical growth, and growth is limited to a degree by atmospheric pressure: i.e., a given organism can only grow to the size that it's physical structure can withstand atmospheric pressure which for simple organisms is not very large and the hypothesis is that asexual reproduction began as a means of shedding mass through agamogenesis.

Defined as a secondary adaptation however, it still comes in a pretty damn close second to metabolic function itself, and once you have it, you have the linear mechanism of further evolution, and it's shared by all known forms of organic life to the extent that it's typically included in the definition of "Life" itself - the very existence of non-reproducing life is largely an academic exercise at this point, as I say, possibly cogent to AI theory, and possibly to laboratory created life when that ever happens - and when it does, perhaps my theory can be tested.

Meantime, reproduction is basically assumed as a given in what we might call successful organisms, in evolutionary terms, an organisms success is pretty much defined by it's reproductive success, and "Life", by which we now mean "reproducing life", now exhibits behaviors other than metabolic function, and in reproducing, spawns more complex behaviors as a result of population growth, i.e., there are now what you might call social stressors, as a single organism now becomes a population of organisms, and one of these behaviors is further adaptation.

i.e., once you have reproduction, presumably the organism reproduces to it's logical limit, which, having overcome size limits, now involve other externalities, the availability of whatever form of energy is being metabolized, etc., and the behavior here should be for the population to expand to fill the inhabited niche to the saturation point, at which some of the population will either adapt to a new niche, and begin expanding to fill that - a zone maybe one degree cooler in a sulfur vent for example - or the population will deplete the available energy source of the niche and a die off will occur - perhaps total, perhaps not, depending.

In any case, we now have Two rather insistent trends, or behaviors, for lack of better terminology: reproduction itself, and competition for energy as a result of population growth, both of which are resolved by further mutation and adaptation, which eventually results in sexual reproduction which accelerates the rate of mutation and adaptation, as various classes of organisms saturate concentric niches.

So, the answer to your question is basically, "that's life buddy". It's written into your DNA, into every cell of your body, in what in programming language we would call a very low level.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 1:27:34 PM   
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quote:

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It seems to me you answered your own question in your first sentence. Understanding the biological directives that are hardwired into every one of us is the key to everything else you said. I'm confused why you are confused about this. That, or I am completely missing something. Wouldn't be the first time!


Good question!

Here is why I asked, and why I asked both men and women how THEY feel about any strong need to for sperm to be INSIDE a woman.
1. I only understand myself (so other males may differ - which is why I had asked). I myself, strongly prefer my semen INSIDE a woman, and not OUTSIDE!
2. I do not understand women - and why THEY would want sperm (either inside or outside) - hence I have a total lack of understanding there (save the one woman who said it felt "warm inside").

Note: The strange thing, for me, is that the sperm does NOT have to be inside a 'womb'; it merely needs to be inside of her. (In fact, a friend once joked to me that he'd stab a gal and impregnate the wound, just to get sperm inside of someone. That's a joke - but the point is the tremendously strong desire to put sperm inside which drives all my waking thoughts (almost) - which I don't know whether women have the same desire or need - and there's nobody I know well enough to ask who wouldn't look at me like I'm crazy for even asking the question).

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 1:35:14 PM   
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I would say it's because you never matured sexually beyond a teenage boy, but I could be wrong.


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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 2:55:01 PM   
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I would say these feelings would be proportionally related to the testosterone titre in your bloodstream, and not social maturity in the least.
More testosterone ====> more desire. Period.


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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 4:19:59 PM   
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Therefore, I ponder what deepest most unshakable drive is it that makes ME very strongly always want to insert my sperm INSIDE a woman?


My experience with men like this is because no matter how much they denied it, they wanted a child. It always came out down the road after our relationship had ended and they ended up in new relationships where they ended up having children. They would contact me sometimes saying how happy they were, etc....

The other could be that in our "caveman" days, the purpose of impregnating a woman had to do with dominance. The one who could impregnate the most women of the clan would be seen as strong, a leader, the "alpha" male.

Personally for me, the sperm thing is something that never even enters my brain. It's just not something that is important to me. It never was. But then again, I never wanted children or felt it was some sign of dominance.




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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 4:55:43 PM   
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Agreed. It's all about babies.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 7:59:09 PM   
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Getting the giggles,  "come here big boy, I wanna receive your white seed of life!"
Somehow, it doesn't flow as easily as 'fuck me, I'm yours'!!

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 8:03:22 PM   
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I think it is difficult to answer an emotional need with an intellectual reason.

Why worry about why? I guess it feels good for all concerned?

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/27/2013 10:33:28 PM   
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My assumption is that men like to impregnate women because they are programmed to deliver the seed of life.
It's also my assumption that women are programed to desire to nurture the man's seed, for similar reasons.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/28/2013 12:22:44 AM   
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And why did they name a whale after the stuff?

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/28/2013 10:31:57 AM   
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Primordial soup in the tide pool.

Seriously? I'm surprised at you, short answer?

Pussy good.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 2/28/2013 10:37:03 AM   
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The other could be that in our "caveman" days, the purpose of impregnating a woman had to do with dominance. The one who could impregnate the most women of the clan would be seen as strong, a leader, the "alpha" male.


According to the book Sperm Wars, that's actually pretty close. It's the urge for genetic dominance. The larger the number of offspring, the larger the chances of survival of those genetics and dominance by sheer numbers.


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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 8:16:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dyfrynt

It seems to me you answered your own question in your first sentence. Understanding the biological directives that are hardwired into every one of us is the key to everything else you said. I'm confused why you are confused about this. That, or I am completely missing something. Wouldn't be the first time!



Yet those biological directives of breeding and procreating does not apply to all males. Not all of us are hardwired to breed.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 8:21:01 AM   
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I don't experience any of what you describe. In point of fact, some of it (the desire to fuck anything in a skirt) horrifies me in an unbounded risk and endless peril sort of way.


That'll be because you're more evolved.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 8:24:29 AM   
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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 8:25:24 AM   
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That'll be because you're more evolved.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh yeah, that's me all right. Just call me Mr. Evolution.

Please tell me you're not serious.


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