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Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen?


No, the Sequester won't happen!
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Yes, the Sequester will happen and the world will come to an end.
  15% (2)
Yes, the Sequester will happen and very little will change.
  46% (6)
Yes, the Sequester will happen and terrible things are going to happen
  7% (1)
I don't give a damn what happens politically on Friday.
  15% (2)
It does not matter, this world is going to crash and burn soon.
  15% (2)
If the sequester happens/I can get some end of days/mercy fucks!
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Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/27/2013 9:03:59 PM   
Marini


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Status: offline 		Okay, this is my first poll, ever.
Please be gentle, I am a very sweet and sensitive soul.

Please feel free to add your own predictions!


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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 12:29:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Sequester has been already shown to be a joke. What else would you expect?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/02/19/the-995-billion-sequester-cut-is-actually-a-110-billion-spending-increase/

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 3:45:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini
Okay, this is my first poll, ever.
Please be gentle, I am a very sweet and sensitive soul.
Please feel free to add your own predictions!


Amid a lot of partisan bluster, there will be some deal made. Both sides will decry the other's positions and point out the benefits of their own. Both sides will report to their base that they limited the other side and got "more than expected" in negotiations.

I think the sequester should happen. The "Draconian" cuts aren't. Forcing the sequester cuts, will force a deficit reduction, though it's not exactly a huge reduction.


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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 4:31:32 AM   
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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 5:55:34 AM   
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Amid a lot of partisan bluster, there will be some deal made. Both sides will decry the other's positions and point out the benefits of their own. Both sides will report to their base that they limited the other side and got "more than expected" in negotiations.



Wow. So your view of the sequester is that it's exactly like politics as usual, except that in addition to the partisan rancor, some deal actually gets done.
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I think the sequester should happen. The "Draconian" cuts aren't. Forcing the sequester cuts, will force a deficit reduction, though it's not exactly a huge reduction.



Well, it's a start. Unfortunately, it's a Washington solution. If a bill authorizing $500 mil for something passes and then the authorization is cut to $300 mil in a subsequent deal, the lawmakers will ignore the second part and tell their constituents that they voted to authorize $300 mil. In other words, I see political advantages to doing things this godawful way, passing pork-laden bills during one nasty argument just for show, and then reducing the bill to its final form during a really nasty argument with things on the line.

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 7:28:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
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Amid a lot of partisan bluster, there will be some deal made. Both sides will decry the other's positions and point out the benefits of their own. Both sides will report to their base that they limited the other side and got "more than expected" in negotiations.

Wow. So your view of the sequester is that it's exactly like politics as usual, except that in addition to the partisan rancor, some deal actually gets done.


Yes. Some deal will get done and each side will be able to strut like little peacocks to their constituents.

quote:

quote:

I think the sequester should happen. The "Draconian" cuts aren't. Forcing the sequester cuts, will force a deficit reduction, though it's not exactly a huge reduction.

Well, it's a start. Unfortunately, it's a Washington solution. If a bill authorizing $500 mil for something passes and then the authorization is cut to $300 mil in a subsequent deal, the lawmakers will ignore the second part and tell their constituents that they voted to authorize $300 mil. In other words, I see political advantages to doing things this godawful way, passing pork-laden bills during one nasty argument just for show, and then reducing the bill to its final form during a really nasty argument with things on the line.


The supporters of the bill will tout their $300 achievement, and their fighting for the entire bill, while the opponents of the bill will tout their fight to get it knocked down 40%.

Obamacare was passed and the following month, a report comes out stating that taxes need to go up, entitlements need to go down, or both, else Government won't be sustainable. Was that really not known prior to Obamacare?

Know what else I can't stand about the way Washington "works?" Obama and the D's have stated they have identified opportunities to make cuts in Medicare that won't change the benefits recipients get. Republicans have stated they have also identified places where Medicare spending can be cut without altering the benefits, too. Neither party has put together or pushed those changes through. They always have to be bundled with something else. WTF is that?!? It's Washington.


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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 4:51:24 PM   
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Nothing...


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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 7:22:35 PM   
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Nothing...


I never thought "most" Americans could or want to stomach BIG budget cuts.

Even most that claim to want severe budget cuts, don't want it to affect THEM or those close to them, if they can help it.

This whole debt "crisis" is rather interesting.
I see the "debt" continuing to rise, until "everything" eventually tumbles down.

Let's see how long we can kick the proverbial can down the road.


< Message edited by Marini -- 2/28/2013 7:25:07 PM >

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 8:00:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's a minuscule cut... for 2013 it's 1.2% of a $3.6 TRILLION budget.

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 8:08:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini
quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy
FR...
Nothing...

I never thought "most" Americans could or want to stomach BIG budget cuts.
Even most that claim to want severe budget cuts, don't want it to affect THEM or those close to them, if they can help it.
This whole debt "crisis" is rather interesting.
I see the "debt" continuing to rise, until "everything" eventually tumbles down.
Let's see how long we can kick the proverbial can down the road.


I thought this whole "cut $1T!" stuff was stunning and worthwhile. I mean, how awesome that they would be willing to cut $1T in spending? Amazing. Then, I found out the $1T cut was a 10-year total. Um, huh?



Doesn't look like much is being cut, does it? And then, when I found out that most of the cuts were backloaded, it made me even more ticked. Do you remember the $2T in spending cuts OBama was offering last year or the year before? IIRC, over $1T was ending the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan. That's what he was offering in negotiations with Republicans to raise taxes. As if they didn't negotiate he would continue the wars? Then, there was the Medicare cuts he was offering, the ones that were already to take effect because of Obamacare. And, the Republicans were excoriated for not negotiating.

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 8:24:39 PM   
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Doesn't look like much is being cut, does it? And then, when I found out that most of the cuts were backloaded, it made me even more ticked


Great point DS!
If we are raising this much noise over THESE cuts, I literally think it would be game over, if we considered much more serious cuts.

I have been saying this SAME thing for at least a year now.
Most Americans have no concept of what it would take to even attempt to bring down the deficit, much less be willing to "go for it".

It ain't going to happen, so is really bringing down the deficit even an option?

Let's be ready to deal with REALITY and the American people.

< Message edited by Marini -- 2/28/2013 8:26:32 PM >

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RE: Will the Sequester Occur and what will happen? - 2/28/2013 8:34:35 PM   
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FR...

Nothing...





Yet in another thread......shifts all the blame for "nothing" onto the President.....

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