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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:04:37 AM   
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I sold my car and started to walk and use a bike. Within months without considering what I ate I had lost 35lbs. The exercise perked me up and I stopped feeling depressed so often and less tired. It wasn't so hard because all the exercise was incorporated into daily my life style. I know with the large distances one might have to travel in the US, getting rid of the car is probably not feasible but just use it less.  

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:05:06 AM   
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Hmmm.  Someone else looking for the quick fix that makes these diet companies rich and you broke.

There are NO quick and dirty ways to lose weight.  If you think there are you are fooling yourself.  Even if you do, you stop using their system and the weight goes right back on again.  You will have gained nothing except a much lighter wallet unfortunately.

I think Chaingang had it right.  It is your diet that is most likely in question.  I would go to a nutritionist or a doctor and get educated about proper nutrition.  I think you will find that brings with it far more benefit in the long run.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:06:00 AM   
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Does any one have any experince with these systems, it's apealing to me because I don't cook, and my mom has zero idea of healthy eating. her idea of a healthy meal is so full of negative carbs and calories it's not funny. Her idea of healthy things are like those stupid taste of asian precooked food bowls at 330 or more calories, Cheesey potato augrautin, holensday sauce and rice ect ect.

I actually know at least one person in each of the popular diet/weight programs who were highly successful with it.

They all also combined good long term discipline to the plan WITH regular moderate exercise on a daily basis AND changing their overall eating habits to include more veggies and healthy snacks.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:09:28 AM   
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Yeah those people followed the plan and were smart about it. I seen morons scarf down pounds of bacon and say "oh its ok Im on atkins diet".

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:14:28 AM   
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Aah The Atkins diet. There was study done on the Atkins diet and it showed if you eat only animal protien it kills hunger and you take in less calories so to a point it works. But no one has come up with a solution to its side affects of bad breath and incessant farting and increased colestrol count.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 7:18:41 AM   
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The truth is that far too often what is easy to grab is so bad for us. I have just learned that the simpler food is (less processed) the better it is for us. Get rid of the white sugar, white flour, anything with corn syrup, no white rice or potatoes. Thats a good start. Eat ALOT of fresh fruits and veggies without the dips and heavy dressings. Eat less meat. Eat more soy if you can. Eat raw nuts  (not roasted) , often found in the baking section. Drink lots and LOTS of water! NO soda. Walk, walk walk walk..........If you are a chocoholic like me....really good dark chocolate in tiny pieces to let melt in your mouth works to satisfy the craving better than a pound of M&M's.
There is no quick easy fix.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 8:14:13 AM   
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Burn more calories than you consume.  That is the only way to loose weight.
Choose your calories wisely.  You don't need to cook in order to make a nice big filling salad.
Use a variety of lettuces, peppers, tomatoes, onions.  Add some soy beans, almonds, avacadoes, broccolli sprouts.  Add some rasins.
Broil up a piece of salmon or chicken breast (no skin) and add to the salad.
Skip the croutons and the dressings.
Drizzle a little bit of olive oil and some balsamic or rasberry vinegar as dressing.  A squeeze of lemon is nice too.
It's healthy, fast, requires minimal cooking.

When you go shopping read labels...don't consume processed white flour, anything with high fructose corn syrup or anything prepackaged that has tons of preservatives.  If you can't read the ingrediants then don't eat it.  Sauces and dressings tend to have useless calories.  Find alternatives.

If you feel the need to snack...keep apples, carrots celery on hand.  Munch on them.
Drink tons of water.  Diet soda is the worst thing for you.  Water, water, water.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 8:46:52 AM   
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get your head out of your ass stop getting high on the scent of your shit in your ass, and stop making rude and inaccurate assumptions.

I suppose you think I eat 40 times aday or eat 40 pounds of cake to? I suppose you think that fat people  would eat the skinny people if we were into canabalizim?

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What happend with putting the friggin spoon down?! Its the easyest way to loose weight!

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 8:47:22 AM   
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I'm impressed by the ® symbol.

I should call myself Lordandmaster®.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 9:02:35 AM   
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Grins I don't drive at all no liscence no car, and I can't see to be a safe driver so not something that I worry much about.

We're in a rural area, you might be able to walk somewhere in a huge city, but we're on the outskirts of town, you could try to walk to school, or to the mall but it'd take you about 2 hours lol.  things here I need to go to and do are almost other side of town sometimes lol
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I sold my car and started to walk and use a bike. Within months without considering what I ate I had lost 35lbs. The exercise perked me up and I stopped feeling depressed so often and less tired. It wasn't so hard because all the exercise was incorporated into daily my life style. I know with the large distances one might have to travel in the US, getting rid of the car is probably not feasible but just use it less.  

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 9:06:15 AM   
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This thread has been very helpfull. I suppose with the not knowing what I want till I want it then you dont't have time to defrost it could be helped by having cooked but frozen things in freezer to choose from.

Then instead of a fully frozen thing defrosted at last minute I can just pull out some stuff re heat and work with it.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 9:08:48 AM   
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I just read this whole thread.....

now I'm hungry, dammit.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 9:13:30 AM   
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I am like another poster..and an eating disorder really screwed my metabolism up.  I am trying to get it back in check....that means exercising...and eating lots of fresh fruits and veggies...and a mixture of soy with it all. ( I don't eat meat, eggs, or dairy).
 
While I loved the convenience of frozen foods...I mean the calories and everything are counted out..the portion is there...I looked at the ingredients list..and decided if I can't pronouce it.. I probably shouldn't be eating it. 
 
It's going to take me a very long time to lose what I want..and I know it will be hard.. I wish there was some "quick fix" out there for you..I..and anyone that needs it. 
 
No..us "fat" ppl don't just sit around all day and eat...but..we do eat probably more of the wrong things.. or don't burn off more than we take in..that's probably just a fact..and one I don't want to know either..but I can't deny.  I don't eat tons..but I hadn't been doing a lot of exercising either..when I did that..and ate right.. I did lose..not over night..but I did.
 
The thing is.. a hot pocket is really  yummy....but.. if you read what's in it.. its not good for us..and trust me .. I do mean us..because I loved them.  So, trust me.. I am in no way judging you.. this is a life long battle..that has been handed down to me ...but that I refuse to hand down to my children. 
 
It has to stop with you and I...so.. trial and error in cooking things.... do google on easy recipes.. buy cooking for dummies...lol...anything..just know you are very much not alone..most of us .. at least a good portion..have faced the same thing.  There will be good days..and bad ones..but in the end..patience (not my fav. word when it comes to weight) really is what we have to have.
 
I wish you a lot of luck..and we are all here for you...
 
                        Please take care, Ticia
 
PS.. I do wonder about the PCOS... I do have that..but I was led to believe that my weight caused it... not sure now.  That might be a possibility.. I know many women that have it..so it wouldn't hurt to get it checked out. 

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 9:22:23 AM   
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I am not trying to be an asshole.


Moloch,
It's funny how sometimes the deliverer of a message of truth is labeled harshly in direct proportion to the truth conveyed.

The reality is 100% of all weight loss pills, programs, or diets ALL have the same "fine print"; "Results NOT typical", and  my personal favorite, "Results will be achieved when combined with a sensible diet and exercise." I'll tell you what, if you do regular exercise and eat "sensibly", you can eat of capsule of air and achieve th same results as the newest fad panacea "hoodia".

Even those math challenged can appreciate this formula:
Calories eaten - calories burned = calories stored (If negative calories lost)
On the right side of the equation (calories stored is defined as FAT)

There are some physiological nuances to that equation and time/lifestyle does come into play. At some point muscle, weighing more, replaces fat. You won't loss weight but you'll lose inches. A scale with a fat monitor is best to track that issue. Another interesting fact is that the body works on an independent logic system. Because of that, fasting only increases the storage of fat. This was a hard lesson for me because it made more sense to me to stop eating 100%. The reality is, fasting causes the body's logic to prepare for the next famine. How does it do that? By storing fat longer by burning fat stored calories last during exercise. So the best weight loss/exercise program includes eating 5 meals a day or every 3 hours or so. Eating protein or low fat, to let the body know that no famine is going on.

Unless you have a "House TV Show" type pituitary tumor, that formula is the only diet advise or diet plan needed. The rest is fluff, and marketing.

If you need some metal benchmarking, get on any of the new treadmills. Any gym will give you a one-day pass to try to sell you. Use if for this test. Put in the necessary personal information and then monitor the calories burned. It's not 100% accurate but for reference, it works. Walk 20 minutes and see the calories burned. Then go to the local convenience store and buy a candy bar, compare the numbers. Next time you buy a candy bar or any item consider how much "work" is was to "refund" the calories in that candy bar.

When I needed to lose a lot of weight I turned every food label out to show the calories per serving. It was a great mental reference.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 10:00:54 AM   
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When you ASSume you make an ass out of me and you.  I said if you eat less you will loose weight, dont put words in my mouth. Oh by the way Im fat so if you dont mind Im gonna go and cannibalize some skinny people, then eat some cake.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 10:34:34 AM   
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Calories eaten - calories burned = calories stored (If negative calories lost)


in addition to the nuances mercnbeth described, consider the fact that you ALREADY are burning a certain amount of calories just by existing. this is why you can generally eat up to a certain amount each day and not gain, so don't let the whole burning as much as you take in issue make you feel guilty about everything you eat that isn't balanced out by a concurrent amount of exercise. also, consider that certain types of exercise burn fat stores and certain types burn glucose stores. generally, low-to-moderate impact endurance exercise burns fat (if you haven't eaten a food that is mostly carb within an hour of exercising), and short bursts of intense activity burn glucose, as i think i might have mentioned in another post.


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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 11:42:39 AM   
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Feline....

I've {you} participated in three previous threads of this nature. You know what to do. Get out there, every single day or night, and walk! -- and keep walking till your legs quiver. After about a week and half.... the pain from the morning will subside and you'll start to notice a difference in your energy level -- And then you'll start to shed pounds.

If folks replaced their time watching television, playing video games and surfing the internet, with walking, running and going to the gym, there would be far less overweight people on this planet.

You've had people comment on everything from fast food to fat calculators, and that's all good. But if you ask me.... the real villain is the television. Sell your television to a fat person at a garage sale, then grab some good books and start walking.



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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 2:27:46 PM   
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For a lot of people the computer and internet has replaced the television as a 'boob tube' ... With the computer and internet, you can interact, therefore you feel like you're doing something and before you know it, you're spending 10 hours a day on your butt in a computer chair.

You're right though, walking will help. When I lived in Texas (also a rural place) I walked everywhere I could. During the summer, when 2 hours walks were simply not an option due to the heat, I would wait until the evening when it cooled down and go for a walk with my dog. The dog LOVED it and it made me feel awesome. I really miss that around here where about the only place I can safely walk with my dog is around my subdivision and people would give me really odd looks if I did that for 2 hours. LOL

So, I got myself a Gazelle Edge (for walking ... I can walk AND watch tv AT THE SAME TIME!) ... I also have a Core Fitness Training System (one of those big balls you sit on and do exercises that work on your stomach and back), a Pilates/Yoga CD with two workouts on it, and my boyfriend has a bowflex. I dont use the bowflex yet because I have this nagging fear that I'll end up looking like a linebacker ... But seriously, work a few things into your daily life. It relieves stress, boredom, makes you feel better ... Its just fun.

Now I will admit, the Pilates and the Core stuff were hard at first. Staying on that stupid ball is a riot in the beginning when you're trying to keep up with the moves and balance at the same time but its fun. The Pilates just requires that you stick with it. Its hard because if you're fat, your muscles aren't used to those movements *and* you've got your own weight and bulk to contend with but it gets better. If you're serious about it, you will loose weight.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 2:57:13 PM   
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Molach I barely even eat, yesterday all I had was chicken corn on cob and potato's augrauten today the only thing I had was a small bowl of cereal. In Fact I am under eating, yes hard to belive a fat person who under eats lol.

UR I've been more active since the last threads, I don't watch much tv at all either:D My pc is my bain of exsitance, I rather be on it than out of my own house and stuff haha bit that ischanging!


Kiska I have special back needs to consider when or if I ever decide to do work out vidios, most the usual prescribed exorcises they are now finding out are not ok at all for people with back problems. Like remember the sit with legs in a wide v and reach from side to side? The kiaser health book on back care actually says not to do those any more, and cherry picker exorcise IS NOT good for people with back problems. Same with crunches. Walking and swimming were recomended though and lucky me it's swiming season and even lucker I have a suit haha
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When you ASSume you make an ass out of me and you.  I said if you eat less you will loose weight, dont put words in my mouth. Oh by the way Im fat so if you dont mind Im gonna go and cannibalize some skinny people, then eat some cake.

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RE: NutriSystem® Nourish™ - 6/22/2006 3:12:45 PM   
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I'm having salmon tonight and I need to make an amendment to my previously posted 'recipe'.  It's 450 degrees, not 350.  Sorry about that!
 
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