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ModeratorEleven -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:07:50 AM)
Settle down folks. XI

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:08:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BreakMeShakeMe So I feel better just being blunt about my answers. Granted I can just not response... but hell.. some.. you just have to...LOL Susan reminds me of you when you first started posting here. It's cool that you see things from the other perspective now- and can maybe see where I was coming from when I first responded to you :)

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:11:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO Tantrums? What am I - two? Do you really think I care what your opinion is? You have abosultely no credibility with me whatsoever - had no business commenting on your (supposed) "insight" into "my situation" when all you really wanted to do was dump on someone else - that was abundantly clear. I also don't ever remember asking for your opinion - and was, in tha entire thread - addressing the OP when I talked about it. Do you seriously think I care enough about your damned opinion to care what you think? For the record - your opinion sucks. - Susan Well, in all honesty, you're acting like you're two so you shouldn't be surprized if you're treated as such. When you post openly, opinions don't have to be invited on what you post. If this was true, noone would ever be posting responses. You appearently care enough to keep responding to me even when I'm not post to you. Reguadless of wheather you care or not I still would've posted what I did in the way I do. It would've just have been posted and nothing more would've been said. Instead you keep going on and on. Get over it already susan. You don't like the way others post? Tough-shit. Yours is not the only opinion around.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:14:32 AM)
A simple observation.... you do care about what people think. If you didnt you would not be posting over and over it doesnt. I lost count how many times in the OP that you said it doesnt bother you. Come to terms that its does and deal with it. you are not the first nor last to be affected by words....take a deep breath and repeat after Me...."fuck the dumb shit" Trust Me when I say I'm not trying to be rude. Pretend your a duck and let the water roll off your back.

MistressOfGa -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:23:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO Okay; I will repeat after you: I don't care. I really don't. I just don't care. Furthermore, I am hoping other people stop caring what purposely rude people think, too. I see so much abuse that passes for "advice" on some threads. It's truly sickening. - Susan Then I hope that your attack on RS on the other thread (Calling her a bitch) will stop her from caring (assuming that she does indeed care) about what YOU think. The only rudeness I saw on that thread was yours. Calling RS a bitch was the epitome of rude. I think you are being childish by coming here and throwing your temper tantrum, calling out those you perceieved as rude, when in reality, you were the one who started the name slinging on that thread. Take a look at your own words here: quote: I cannot believe how hurtful and judgmental some people can be. I am not stating this on my own behalf here - I see people hurt all the time by judmental, mean-spirited comments - I just see this over and over and over again. What's the deal? How much do some people need to have invested in "being right"? Are their egos really that thin? quote: You know Reflective Soul, I have had it with you. Why don't you Reflect on THIS?: You are a total and complete B____ch. Isn't calling someone a bitch a mean spirited comment? Yes you have apologized for it, but now you have opened an entirely new thread to talk about how mean people are...include yourself in that catagory. The pot calling the kettle black comes to mind.

Reflectivesoul -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 11:30:20 AM)
quote: Wow. I sound pretty damned angry. Wonder what helped cause that. Oh. I forgot. "Other people don't make anyone feel anything. If you let them that "makes you a victim" Wow - how convenient for you. Guess you can get away with acting just about any way toward anyone with that kind of rationale. Before I truly leave - for good, perhaps you might reflect on just how looong it took for me to reach that point - and what kind of words and attitude you exhibited in between. I am sure you are having some kind of emotional problem or personal issue. I might actually care if you were the kind of person who could display any kind of feeling for anyone's sitaution besides your own. I am not talking about mine, paricularly. There were at least three other people on that thread you wnet out of your way to offend.You are definitely what I would classify as "hurtful" You also have a marked lack of empathy. I stay away from people like that - they're dangerous. Besides, it's complete and total waste of my time and energy. And why would I care what a person like that thinks? - Susan 1st I did NOT say what you posted and are trying to quote me as saying, the reason you did not pull the correct quote is because it would have shown the truth and not what you wanted to make it out to be. What I in fact did say was this : quote: The women that have been in this situation ( besides myself because yes I was there too ) keep saying one thing over and over, that the men in their lives "made them feel" unloved, unwanted, uncared for.... someone else can NOT "make" you feel anything. Your emotions are yours and yours alone to deal with and to fix. To lay that blame on someone else is not right nor fair. Again you stepped off and immediately tried to blame me for your loss of self control... You are the one that tried to make the words fit your picture of the situation. I did not. So I guess that made it pretty convenient for you huh? My attitude and words have been consistent to a fault the entire way along, that you need to take responsibility for yourself and STOP blaming everyone else for your behaviors. You are the one that keeps making the references to your situation not me. I have not once complained about what I went through, I am not the one here lashing out and making crude, degrading, beligerant remarks. That is a blatant lie, because what I did do was go out of my way to state that my posts were in no way intended for the other women there. That acusation is not a shoe that fits my foot thank you...

incognitobynight -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 12:02:11 PM)
I just thought I would step over here and coddle Susan for a few minutes (coddle, coddle, coddle). "WE" really enjoy that kinda thing ya know. "WE" have even been known to spend VAST amounts of time on discussion forums with the sole ulterior motive of getting strangers to coddle us. No. It's true! In fact, I think there is a secret society of coddle mongers (I think I have my identification card right here in my wallet. It's a little tattered, I've had it for so long). Be warned though.........we can be very deceptive in our methods to manipulate you into coddling us. You may THINK you are insulting us,.....but nay....thou protest too much!. We recognize pure jealousy when we see it. You want to be coddled too!!!! Your way of getting sympathy and coddling is just a little different than ours. Yours is to say the most witty and cutting thing you can think of to make your point and receive the accolades of your peers. Ooooh....I bet THAT stung! What I see here is a failure to communicate effectively causing a lot of frustration. EVERYONE seems to be enjoying the hell out of themselves, however because the pace of the posts is at lightening speed. So with that, I will leave you to tear each other to shreds......after all,....isn't that what you do best? In the end, is the satisfaction you get at delivering a "zinger" really worth the discomfort of a single human being? Everyone has to make that choice for themselves, I suppose, and I know that those of you who decide to continue will do so while taking responsibility for your actions. If there is one thing I have learned here, that is that we are all prepared to take responsibility for our own actions.

MistressLorelei -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 12:05:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirKenin Ummm. Firstly not everyone wants to be respected. I do not care whether you respect Me or not, nor will I ever. You give yourself entirely too much credit. That is your issue and I sure have enough of My own, so I am not willing to personalize yours. Second, being blunt is being direct. Same thing. I am not quite sure where you were hoping to go with that line of reasoning. Thirdly being blunt, rude or abrasive does not necessarily ever have to equate to keeping it real, or being true to oneself. If that is your personality type then fine, but being true to yourself is posting what is on your mind and not spitting out a sugar coated piece of shit because that is what people want to hear and that is what will earn you the most brownie points. For a perfect example of what I am talking about, take Mercnbeth's posts into consideration. There are posts that say it like it is, time and again, whether you want to hear it or not. Being blunt works for me. Sugar coating equates to being phony, and that's worse than being a ruthless bitch (though there is a time and place for ruthless bitches). I can say what I feel without clouding my viewpoint with personal insults. If arrogance and insults are all I have to represent my position... do I really have a worthwhile position to represent? I like MercnBeth, and have debated with them on occasion. I do think they tell it like they think it is, not always how it is... this difference is where many have a problem. I have seen many comments made by members that are ridiculous, misinformed, written by someone who can't be smarter than the average 7 year old... and do I ever think these things? Obviously, but, what point is to be made in telling them I think these things? That's not sugar coating, it's applying tact, common sense, and maturity. I think that those who go out of their way to point to others out that they are a 'tell it like it is' kind of person thread after thread, contradict themselves when they then claim they don't care what others think of them. I also think there is a level of bullying that goes on in some cases... where others are weary of posting an opposing opinion to certain members here, as they are hit with the usual reply of how stupid they must be for disagreeing, and what a worthless opinion they have.

Reflectivesoul -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 12:14:22 PM)
nah incognito, some still choose to lay the blame at other peoples feet instead of accepting the responsibility of their actions. But maybe after hearing it enough times that they should be responsible it will sink in.... [:D]

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 12:31:23 PM)
hmmmm, I think I heard the 2nd period bell ring, I think we should all go to class before the principle catches us in the hallway arguing. Oh wait a minute, these are adults going on like this, whoops, my bad. Who cares what people say, over half the population is effectively brain dead, another third is locked in some cracked philosphy about how the world works, and a good majority of the remainder just are looking to stir some shit up. Honestly, the number of people that I actually take seriously is less than twenty. As in those that could possibly effect my outlook and core principles. All people as a general rule are full of one form of shit or another. So, take their words as such. Especially on a forum. Good God, these aren't people it's just a matrix program. hehe. Sidenote.... Those who think they aren't full of shit are generally the fullest of all. It's rare when words are actually worth speaking. Even more rare are those worth remembering. And the most rare are those worth living by. Are those last three lines any good, hehe, sounded good when I typed it. That last line needs work I think.

SusanofO -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:04:10 PM)
You haven't got a responsible bone in your body, Relfective Soul, And - stop being such a victim, okay?. - Susan

SusanofO -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:11:27 PM)
Yes, coddling from complete strangers who appear to hate me has always been my #1 motive. - Susan

MsIncognito -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:13:55 PM)
Turn off the computer, step away and go enjoy enjoy the sunshine or fresh air or jog or bike or something else you enjoy. Seriously. Go get an ice cream cone or a latte and breathe deeply. Over and over. Once you regain your perspective you'll see this stuff really does't matter at all. quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO You haven't got a responsible bone in your body, Relfective Soul, And - stop being such a victim, okay?. - Susan

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:16:44 PM)
I think NeedtoUseYou said it best. Nothing further to add. Just agreeing.

Gauge -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:17:08 PM)
For someone who doesn't like to hear arguments for arguments sake, you sure are doing your fair share of it here. It doesn't matter how you think others should act, people will act like people, not like the people you want them to be. If feathers get ruffled, good... most often people are mature enough to keep it within the realm of acceptable debate. When it degenerates into name calling then it is then pointless and trite. If I wanted to attend a message board without conflicts I would have joined a fluffy bunny message board. No, I would rather be stimulated with opposing views, no matter how strongly stated, than to be mollycoddled into feeling like the world is a warm bowl of chocolate cream. It is simple when you put it in perspective. You hold the power within yourself to omit these types of discussions from your life... if they upset you, don't get sucked into the exchange. It is really easy. I care what people think about me... I am honest enough to admit that and I will try my best to apologize when I have wronged someone or I have overstepped my bounds. This does not mean that their opinion of me carries such a weight as to wither me where I sit. No, I value those opinions that I hold worthy of my attention. The rest, I will take or leave according to content. I don't know or care why this thread started, all I know is that when it all boils down and the dust settles, people will still act like who they are, not what I expect them to be.

MistressOfGa -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:20:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge For someone who doesn't like to hear arguments for arguments sake, you sure are doing your fair share of it here. It doesn't matter how you think others should act, people will act like people, not like the people you want them to be. If feathers get ruffled, good... most often people are mature enough to keep it within the realm of acceptable debate. When it degenerates into name calling then it is then pointless and trite. If I wanted to attend a message board without conflicts I would have joined a fluffy bunny message board. No, I would rather be stimulated with opposing views, no matter how strongly stated, than to be mollycoddled into feeling like the world is a warm bowl of chocolate cream. It is simple when you put it in perspective. You hold the power within yourself to omit these types of discussions from your life... if they upset you, don't get sucked into the exchange. It is really easy. I care what people think about me... I am honest enough to admit that and I will try my best to apologize when I have wronged someone or I have overstepped my bounds. This does not mean that their opinion of me carries such a weight as to wither me where I sit. No, I value those opinions that I hold worthy of my attention. The rest, I will take or leave according to content. I don't know or care why this thread started, all I know is that when it all boils down and the dust settles, people will still act like who they are, not what I expect them to be. [sm=applause.gif]

Gauge -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:25:31 PM)
quote: Desiderata -- written by Max Ehrmann in the 1920s -- Not "Found in Old St. Paul's Church"! -- see below I feel that it is my obligation to post a reply to this. Deteriorata Go placidly amid the noise and waste, And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof. Avoid quiet and passive persons unless you are in need of sleep. Rotate your tires. Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself, And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys. Know what to kiss and when. Consider that two wrongs never make a right, But that three lefts do. Wherever possible put people on "HOLD". Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment, And despite the changing fortunes of time, There is always a big future in computer maintenance. Remember the Pueblo. Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate. Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI. Exercise caution in your daily affairs, Especially with those persons closest to you; That lemon on your left for instance. Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls, Would scarcely get your feet wet. Fall not in love therefore; it will stick to your face. Carefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan, And let not the sands of time get in your lunch. For a good time, call 555-4311. Ask for Kevin. Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog Is finally getting enough cheese; And reflect that whatever fortunes may be your lot, It could only be worse in Sioux City. You are a fluke of the Universe. You have no right to be here, and whether you can hear it or not, The Universe is laughing behind your back. Therefore make peace with your God whatever you conceive him to be, Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin. With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal, The world continues to deteriorate. Give up.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Pulling the plug (6/22/2006 1:26:13 PM)
This has gone on about as far as it needs to. XI

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