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TheHeretic -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 7:47:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 So, let's see England try to take the Maldives away now that God is on the side of the Argentinians. [:D] Didn't the residents of those islands just vote damn near unanimously to stay with the country they have?

Powergamz1 -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 7:52:47 PM)
Argentina says they are welcome to stay as English guests, once the Queen hands over the land... and the petroleum wells.[;)]

YN -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 7:57:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 Argentina says they are welcome to stay as English guests, once the Queen hands over the land... and the petroleum wells.[;)] It will be Brasil that gets the oil out, they are the ones with the deep sea drilling technology and the local ability to make it happen. How that will play out politically is another story.

Kirata -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:01:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 So, let's see England try to take the Maldives away now that God is on the side of the Argentinians. The Maldives may be the least of it. "We know that our commander has risen up there and is face to face with Christ," Maduro said, to an outburst of laughter at a political event, just over a week after Chavez died following 14 years in charge of Venezuela... Some new hand arrived and got to Christ and said: It is South America's time. That's what I think," Maduro, Chavez' handpicked successor, declared. The audience thought Venezuela's acting president Nicolas Maduro was joking, but things quickly went downhill... "One of these days he is going to call a constitutional congress in heaven to change the church in the world, so that the people, only Christ's pure people rule in this world," he predicted. Just what we need, more religious nuts in high places. Source K.

Powergamz1 -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:19:10 PM)
Well, they do float, don't they? quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 So, let's see England try to take the Maldives away now that God is on the side of the Argentinians. The Maldives may be the least of it. "We know that our commander has risen up there and is face to face with Christ," Maduro said, to an outburst of laughter at a political event, just over a week after Chavez died following 14 years in charge of Venezuela... Some new hand arrived and got to Christ and said: It is South America's time. That's what I think," Maduro, Chavez' handpicked successor, declared. The audience thought Venezuela's acting president Nicolas Maduro was joking, but things quickly went downhill... "One of these days he is going to call a constitutional congress in heaven to change the church in the world, so that the people, only Christ's pure people rule in this world," he predicted. Just what we need, more religious nuts in high places. Source K.

erieangel -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:33:04 PM)
I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:39:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata White smoke signalled the election of the new Pope today, but according to prophecy he will be the last one... 'The Prophecy of the Popes' is an intriguing old book made up of a sequential collection of events purporting to describe the life of 112 popes from the Twelfth Century’s Celestine II (1143-44) to ‘Peter the Roman’... This fascinating list of brief prophecies about the Vatican’s pontiffs was published in a book called, ‘Lignum Vitae’ written in Latin by Arnold de Wyon in 1595... The incoming Pope will be number 112, and Saint Malachy’s conclusion about his imminent papacy was this: ‘In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [Rome] will be destroyed, and the terrible judge will judge his people. The End’. ~Vatileaks K. There was a small mathematical error between Pope # 27 and Pope #61. There will be exactly 7 more Popes before this apocryphal is anointed. (The clue is...this Pope has no sheep...although several in the American Catholic church have been known to have one or more...which, by the way, doesn't change the math).

TheHeretic -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:40:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. On MSNBC??? Inconceivable!

searching4mysir -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:42:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. Those things are all doctrinal and not open to change. Why would you think he would be anything else?

FatDomDaddy -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 8:43:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 So, let's see England try to take the Maldives away now that God is on the side of the Argentinians. [:D] Bergoglio is hardly a favorite of the current Argentine regime....

vincentML -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 9:15:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: Maybe a revival of liberation theology, although that is probably too much to hope for. Not likely (warning, link has audio/video that launches): quote: Bergoglio is an accomplished theologian who distanced himself from liberation theology early in his career. He is thought to be close to Comunione e Liberazione, a conservative lay movement. Thank you for the info . . . but terribly disappointing [:(]

erieangel -> RE: The Final Pope (3/13/2013 9:25:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. Those things are all doctrinal and not open to change. Why would you think he would be anything else? True. Kinda why I left the Catholic Church when I was a teen. Too authoritarian.

Phoenixpower -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 3:22:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. Those things are all doctrinal and not open to change. Why would you think he would be anything else? True. Kinda why I left the Catholic Church when I was a teen. Too authoritarian. Also have to do that step now this year, though wait until I have my next job... Can't leave the church entirely with the field I'm working in, but will change to the protestant one instead the catholic one, and enquired about that last year already...

Lucylastic -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 4:27:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. says the same thing here.... http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/papabile-day-men-who-could-be-pope-13 Bergoglio is seen an unwaveringly orthodox on matters of sexual morality, staunchly opposing abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception. In 2010 he asserted that gay adoption is a form of discrimination against children, earning a public rebuke from Argentina's President, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. Must be where MSNBC got their info [;)] Inconceivable!!!

searching4mysir -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 4:32:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. Those things are all doctrinal and not open to change. Why would you think he would be anything else? True. Kinda why I left the Catholic Church when I was a teen. Too authoritarian. Also have to do that step now this year, though wait until I have my next job... Can't leave the church entirely with the field I'm working in, but will change to the protestant one instead the catholic one, and enquired about that last year already... Then at least be honest and don't receive communion. Receiving communion is like an altar call (in protestant churches) that says you believe everything the Church teaches. There is a reason why the Church only allows Catholics to receive and you've stopped being Catholic already in your heart.

Phoenixpower -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 8:51:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel I heard on MSNBC that the new pope is anti-guy, anti-contraception, anti-same sex marriage and views adoption by gay people as discriminatory--to the children. Those things are all doctrinal and not open to change. Why would you think he would be anything else? True. Kinda why I left the Catholic Church when I was a teen. Too authoritarian. Also have to do that step now this year, though wait until I have my next job... Can't leave the church entirely with the field I'm working in, but will change to the protestant one instead the catholic one, and enquired about that last year already... Then at least be honest and don't receive communion. Receiving communion is like an altar call (in protestant churches) that says you believe everything the Church teaches. There is a reason why the Church only allows Catholics to receive and you've stopped being Catholic already in your heart. yes, but so far I still am on paper, pay my awesome taxes to them and if you like it or not I had all that rubbish done which you do via church as a catholic with christianing, holy communion aged 9 and whatever you call the other stuff in english which you do when you are 13 or 14...[8\|] Thankfully it is not up to you to tell me what I can do and what I can't do [:)]

FunCouple5280 -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 9:41:03 AM)
Maybe the prophecy is true. If this guy isn't a reformer and doesn't muck the church out, the church will be 'judged' for being a bunch of hateful peder-asses and bankrupted. Effectively ending it... What if he is a pedophile? .....The end is near!!!!!!! lol (raised catholic, now living as a heathen [8D])

YN -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 1:12:43 PM)
I doubt you will find the new Pope to be a pedophile. But why do anyone here think the Pope is capable of significantly changing church doctrine? Like any other monarch, there is a great inertia behind his throne, and he is no more capable of changing this great establishment then he is of challenging the tides.

Moonhead -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 1:14:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 So, let's see England try to take the Maldives away now that God is on the side of the Argentinians. [:D] Bergoglio is hardly a favorite of the current Argentine regime.... News to me that "England" is a catholic country as well. Henry VIII went to extreme measures to get a divorce...

TheHeretic -> RE: The Final Pope (3/14/2013 6:19:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Must be where MSNBC got their info [;)] Inconceivable!!! Probably. Of course, there are a lot of facts MSNBC could have presented regarding the man selected to head the the church. They selected the ones which fit neatly into the picture they wanted to paint. Whether this was done by design, to start demonizing the man, or by the natural bias of people in media who believe the facts that matter most, are the ones that fit their prejudiced and preconceived notions, doesn't matter much. I'm not Catholic, and not invested, but he seems like a good man, and I wish him well.

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