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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

Before the SAFE Act this was illegal to do anyways. You can't knowingly sell a firearm to a felon. The second someone says misdemeanor, felony, or domestic violence you need to assume they aren't allowed to have the firearm and you need to cancel the sale, simple as that. This idiot was caught, great, these types need to be arrested anyways. Knowingly selling to criminals is wrong now this guy is going to prison. Next?

You can legally buy a gun in most states if you have a non domestic violence misdemeaner.
Other than that it has been ilegal to sell a gun to a felon for as long as I can remeber and that's a long time.

And yet felons are in fact in possession of guns.
Where do you suppose they get them from ?

Obviously they got them illegally imageine that criminals ignoring gun laws who would have thought.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

Before the SAFE Act this was illegal to do anyways. You can't knowingly sell a firearm to a felon. The second someone says misdemeanor, felony, or domestic violence you need to assume they aren't allowed to have the firearm and you need to cancel the sale, simple as that. This idiot was caught, great, these types need to be arrested anyways. Knowingly selling to criminals is wrong now this guy is going to prison. Next?

You can legally buy a gun in most states if you have a non domestic violence misdemeaner.
Other than that it has been ilegal to sell a gun to a felon for as long as I can remeber and that's a long time.

And yet felons are in fact in possession of guns.
Where do you suppose they get them from ?

Obviously they got them illegally imageine that criminals ignoring gun laws who would have thought.

But somewhere they were,for the most part(excepting stolen weapons) bought legally.....than sold and or given to a criminal.
The gun that was purchased legally in Virginia.....is in the hands of a criminal once it enters New York.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

House moms and soccer dads aren`t weak and they vote.


They count too and don`t live in fear of paranoid mythical fantasies but rather of real threats...kooks with guns.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I see I must draw you a picture.
Federal gun laws= equal regulations countrywide(hence "federal" as opposed to state ) =far less guns sold= much harder for said criminal to obtain said gun.Does any of that help ?
by the way that part about less guns sold,that's the part that has the NRA up in arms,see the NRA does not represent gun enthusiasts,no it's the gun manufacturers that they represent.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I see I must draw you a picture.
Federal gun laws= equal regulations countrywide(hence "federal" as opposed to state ) =far less guns sold= much harder for said criminal to obtain said gun.Does any of that help ?
by the way that part about less guns sold,that's the part that has the NRA up in arms,see the NRA does not represent gun enthusiasts,no it's the gun manufacturers that they represent.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I see I must draw you a picture.
Federal gun laws= equal regulations countrywide(hence "federal" as opposed to state ) =far less guns sold= much harder for said criminal to obtain said gun.Does any of that help ?
by the way that part about less guns sold,that's the part that has the NRA up in arms,see the NRA does not represent gun enthusiasts,no it's the gun manufacturers that they represent.

That's funny, all this time while the NRA was apposing idiotic gun control, I thought they were representing me. Why don't we just put criminals in prison and keep them there, at least the violent ones. Just another NRA point of view.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I see I must draw you a picture.
Federal gun laws= equal regulations countrywide(hence "federal" as opposed to state ) =far less guns sold= much harder for said criminal to obtain said gun.Does any of that help ?
by the way that part about less guns sold,that's the part that has the NRA up in arms,see the NRA does not represent gun enthusiasts,no it's the gun manufacturers that they represent.

That's funny, all this time while the NRA was apposing idiotic gun control, I thought they were representing me. Why don't we just put criminals in prison and keep them there, at least the violent ones. Just another NRA point of view.

Could be they were helping both in fact you can't help one without helping the other.

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Quite true but for some reason the anti gun people around here keep saying the NRA only represents gun manufacturers only. I'm not getting their logic.

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Whether one favours more stringent gun laws or not, it seems to me that uniform gun laws throughout the country are one measure that everyone can agree on.

The current situation - where different States have different gun laws and enforcement regimes - enables those who can't get guns legally ie the 'bad guys'/criminals to obtain the guns they want with little chance of being caught.

As everyone seems to agree that guns shouldn't be in hands of criminals, this is one step that ought to please all viewpoints in this discussion.

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If you go to buy one brand new, dont you need a background check?

Why is your buddy of 20 years so much better than you?

And who is to say something didnt happen since the last time he got his permit?

People are so damn trusting.

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One I would know

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Two his permit would have been revoked.

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btw the NRA doesn't oppose background checks they oppose universal background checks

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And you are saying they wouldn't revoke his permit for anything that made it illegal toown a firearm?

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If you become ineligable for ownership they confiscal your permit along with your guns what kind of backwater place do you live in were it doesn't work that way?

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What if I lose my concealed pistol license?
If your license has been lost, stolen or destroyed, you may get a replacement from your local law enforcement agency. You’ll need to apply in person, and the fee for a replacement license is $10.

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You are right about one thing , swome people are too trusting
They trust poloticions enough to think they can give more and more power to the government and noone like Nixon or Johnson will come along to abuse it.
They trust criminals enough to think that if you see to it they have the advantage (210 lb intruder against 110 lb woman that they will be nice enough not to hurt you.

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Does your refusale to answer mean that you don't need to agree with anti gun groups every position to support them but you expect pro gunners to abandon anyone with whom they are not 100% in sync?

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And you are saying they wouldn't revoke his permit for anything that made it illegal toown a firearm?

Whats revoking a gun permit? Do you think they actually come and take it off of you? Can you not always say you lost it?

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If you become ineligable for ownership they confiscal your permit along with your guns what kind of backwater place do you live in were it doesn't work that way?

See above. Apparently not as backwaters as the place you come from.

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What if I lose my concealed pistol license?
If your license has been lost, stolen or destroyed, you may get a replacement from your local law enforcement agency. You’ll need to apply in person, and the fee for a replacement license is $10.

oooooooooo sorta of like the state IDs.... I used to get a couple because I was always losing mine.

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You are right about one thing , swome people are too trusting
They trust poloticions enough to think they can give more and more power to the government and noone like Nixon or Johnson will come along to abuse it.
They trust criminals enough to think that if you see to it they have the advantage (210 lb intruder against 110 lb woman that they will be nice enough not to hurt you.

And some people are too trusting in that they have flimsy doors on their homes, no security systems, and bank on that 110 lb woman remembering how to fire that gun, or that she doesnt fire and miss, thus costing her own life.

See, for every argument you toss up, another can be tossed back at you.

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Does your refusale to answer mean that you don't need to agree with anti gun groups every position to support them but you expect pro gunners to abandon anyone with whom they are not 100% in sync?

WHO does the NRA work for?