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Here they will take it when they arrest him.

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So she is better off trusting to the good will of an assalent if he had good will he wouldn't be an assalent. In fact your claim presumes that if she just didn't resist everything would be ok.

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This conversation started because I ansered who the NRA works for.

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And I see you don't want to think about sombody like Nixon getting the power you want to give the government.

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If you lose your permit you can't have any more of them. What are you trying to get at ?

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For many, just a gun for security is about all they can afford. Do you have heavy duty steel doors with those extended double key deadbolts, bars on all the windows and a top notch security system for your house ? Do you have a super secret safe room.

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Here they will take it when they arrest him.

And? They take one... how many more can you have if you claim to have lost one?

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So she is better off trusting to the good will of an assalent if he had good will he wouldn't be an assalent. In fact your claim presumes that if she just didn't resist everything would be ok.

Nope, security measures shouldnt consist of just a gun.

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This conversation started because I ansered who the NRA works for.

The NRA doesnt work for its members. It works for itself, ignoring its members.

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And I see you don't want to think about sombody like Nixon getting the power you want to give the government.

And how much power was given to Bush?

You seem to believe that guns... ALL GUNS.. will be banned. That wont ever happen. But, in your fantasy world of all or nothing, you cling to that belief because anything else is just beyond your understanding.

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If you lose your permit you can't have any more of them. What are you trying to get at ?

LOL

If you physically lose your permit, you cant get another one?

What if I lose my concealed pistol license?
If your license has been lost, stolen or destroyed, you may get a replacement from your local law enforcement agency. You’ll need to apply in person, and the fee for a replacement license is $10.

http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faconcealfaq.html

Might wanna tell the states that, huh.


Oh I get it, the semantics game. Bama was referring to losing your permit as in having it revoked for committing a crime or some such thing.

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For many, just a gun for security is about all they can afford. Do you have heavy duty steel doors with those extended double key deadbolts, bars on all the windows and a top notch security system for your house ? Do you have a super secret safe room.

I do have a heavy steel door on my apartment. Double bolted, with the extended locks into the door frame.

That's all well and good but did you have to add that improvement yourself or was the landlord kind enough to install it for you ?keep in mind without a steel door frame your steel door isn't terribly difficult to defeat. Without bars on the windows you're vulnerable there. A secret safe room is probably the best idea but not everyone can afford this stuff nor is a landlord going to be kind enough to provide it. Not only that but even if ya got all those things a firearm makes the ultimate back up plan.

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Oh I get it, the semantics game. Bama was referring to losing your permit as in having it revoked for committing a crime or some such thing.

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That's all well and good but did you have to add that improvement yourself or was the landlord kind enough to install it for you ?keep in mind without a steel door frame your steel door isn't terribly difficult to defeat. Without bars on the windows you're vulnerable there. A secret safe room is probably the best idea but not everyone can afford this stuff nor is a landlord going to be kind enough to provide it. Not only that but even if ya got all those things a firearm makes the ultimate back up plan.

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In an article in The Daily Caller (1/18/2013) Biden said, "And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don't have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately."

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In addition to the absurdity of having to do background checks on people you know are not criminals, would you like to pay up to $100 or more just to give your grandson a shotgun or lend a hunting rifle to your best friend or give your Mom a gun for protection? Transfer fees alone could run from $50 up. Firearms dealers, like other businesses, charge as much as they can get away with. Background check fees for a federally mandated program can be any amount they decide.

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And still you won't say you would disavow any gun control group that disagreed with you oneven one point.

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Universal background checks on gun buyers are favored by 92 percent of Americans, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll released Thursday.

The number reported is those who favor "background checks on all potential gun buyers". The NRA considers universal background checks to mean all gun transfers of any kind, including a father handing down his old .22 rifle to his son.

K.

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The whole back ground check idea assumes that criminals cannot get their crime guns elsewhere and that is NUTS.

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So here's a point of compromise. Folks who have undergone the process to get a Concealed Weapons Permit, FOID card, or other public license or permit to carry or posses firearms, can choose to belong to a database (which they pay $5 a year to belong to). If they want to buy a gun privately then the seller and buyer can go online and conduct a "background check" that will instantly see if the permit or license holder can still legally own a firearm.

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If the buyer can, then the seller simply needs to forward the email of the background check to himself to keep a record of the background check for up to one year and the database would have to keep a record of the check for up to three years (stored digitally).

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And still you won't say you would disavow any gun control group that disagreed with you oneven one point.

Did I ask you to do that?

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You did not use the word disavow but you wanted me to say that The NRA did not represent the people because of their stand on universal background checks which you msirepresented as if the opposed all background checks.

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Wait.

If the NRA represents its members, then why did the head honcho say he didnt want mandatory back ground checks?

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We think it 's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mental ill are in the system.

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You found a prison cell to live in and you feel that makes you safe, do you ever go outdoors how does that steel door work out for you then?

It is easy to say doors and I would assume burglar bars are cheap when someone else pays for them.

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And start to finish the entire aproach goes after the ligitimate gun owner in the hope that it slow down the crimnals. You might call it trickle down law enforcement.