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LadyPact -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 6:39:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Please stop with NO UNITY IN THE COMMUNITY.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Geez, I've been saying this for days.

Unity in the community isn't, in My opinion, anywhere near what some on these boards try to make it out to be.

It's not automatically 'I support whatever you're doing as long as you call it kink' or 'gee, you're a person that I want to spend time with just because you are kinky'.

I don't have a shovel big enough for that horse hockey.








Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 7:09:25 PM)

I am as vanilla as I am kinky.I get along fine with vanilla people.Theres time I prefer to just go and hang out with some friends.I have friends from all walks of life.Live and let live is not just a saying for me,it is something I fully believe in.I have been around alot of diverse people in my short lifetime.At the end of the day,it all really just comes down to basic "common sense".Good looks,lots of money or a handful of degrees isn't going to "buy" anyone alittle common sense.Maybe a little common courtesy too.They do those sort of things in the "vanilla" world.




OsideGirl -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 8:03:49 PM)

As I said, the worst hostility I've encountered have been within the community. The vanillas don't care about my marriage, but bitter scenesters seem to....




seekingreality -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 8:48:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FreetobeSlave

If there is one thing that upsets me the most is when people active within the community can not respect each other, especially doms.

I have noticed this a lot on collarme, where a sub or slave has on her profile that she is owned or is in negotiations with another dom, and all of the sudden she is getting messages from so called doms telling her how much of a loser he is and picking apart their profile.



Frankly, who gives a shit? Those doms have their own issues or they are using a gambit to try to get you. If that bothers you, hide your profile. Also, I chuckle at the notion that collarme is a "community." Mostly it's a place of personal ads and people looking for what they want. Blasting the collarme "community" is like blasting the craigslist community.




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:15:04 PM)

I get along with vanilla people just fine myself.I do sense more hostility in this "community".I guess I didn't realize how divided this so called "community" can be at times.It like people have their little "cliques" and just stick with each other.Then comes the "mob rule" mentality.Which would be enough to drive any newcomer right out of this site and a complete misunderstanding of this lifestyle.




littlewonder -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:21:42 PM)

How is this any different than anywhere else in the world? Hate to break it to ya, but even in the "vanilla" world this happens quite a lot too. If you don't see it you either don't work or you don't get out much.




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:30:40 PM)

Its far more common in here than I've ever seen in the vanilla world.Sure,theres always the "top of the food chain" mentality with humans in general,But it seems far more common in this lifestyle.Not that I personally care because I don't.An ass-hole is an ass-hole,kinky or vanilla.Perhaps I was under the false impression of this "community" because I figured people in this "community" would be more tolerant and accepting of each other.Boy,was I ever wrong about that.No wonder why some people decide to just go "solo" and do their own thing.I have plenty of friends in the vanilla lifestyle and I rarely have any problems.




lizi -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:32:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I get along with vanilla people just fine myself.I do sense more hostility in this "community".I guess I didn't realize how divided this so called "community" can be at times.It like people have their little "cliques" and just stick with each other.Then comes the "mob rule" mentality.Which would be enough to drive any newcomer right out of this site and a complete misunderstanding of this lifestyle.


Way to flip flop. First it's every kinky person should stand up for the community of kinksters, now its all the kinksters are meanies and are driving newcomers off the site. You're really not making a lot of sense with all the backpedaling going on here.

Seems to me that the kink community is just like any other facet of society. There is good and bad. End of story. No one is extra special and sparkly because they're kinky. No one is super mean and nasty. It's just a bunch of people that have pretty much no connection with each other.




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:41:02 PM)

I do think like minded people should come together in some fashion.But if people don't care,then it serves no point or purpose for anyone.Theres still ignorance out there and if you think theres not,then you have been wearing those nice "rose colored glasses".Times are better but there is still a lot of room for improvement.But sit by and do nothing.Nothing changes.




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:44:58 PM)

There still is legal discrimination in this lifestyle when people can get fired from their job for having a profile here on Collarme.If that same person had a profile on PlentyofFish,that same situation wouldn't even be an issue.You tell me theres still no discrimination?




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 9:56:46 PM)

I don't really view myself being "submissive" as somehow some separate personality from who I normally I am.I view my submission as apart of who I am,period.I can interwine my vanilla life from my sub life quite well.When I go out in society,no one would have the slightest clue I am a submissive.Unless they've seen a photo or video of me.Then I have no problem in being perfectly honest with people,if they ask me.I remember bumping into some men in the Coast Guard who had seen my videos.They said they really enjoyed my videos and a lot of their friends in the Coast Guard were watching those videos.That was neat hearing that from gentleman who are fighting for my freedom.




LadyPact -> RE: Respecting one another (3/22/2013 11:49:03 PM)

Rather than do all of the quotes, let's just call this a general response.

Those things that people like to call cliques, those are called friends. The reason that one might want to see their friends is to socialize with them. That's the only purpose that a munch has to have. A social opportunity for like minded folks to get together. Anything over and above that is just extra.

The supposed 'kinky people are more accepting and tolerant' fantasy is pretty much a line of crap. Kinky people are very much like any other group that happens to have a common interest. We're not better, brighter, or any other "more" of anything that people might want to believe.

I'm not terribly worried about new people not sticking around the site. Whether they do or not, doesn't really effect Me that much. If they decide to stay, great. If they don't, there will be another bunch of brand new members tomorrow. I'm an hour and fifteen minutes from it being midnight and 250 people from the United States alone started an account for March 22, 2013. There will be another 250 + people that join the place tomorrow.




sexyred1 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/23/2013 1:16:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I do think like minded people should come together in some fashion.But if people don't care,then it serves no point or purpose for anyone.Theres still ignorance out there and if you think theres not,then you have been wearing those nice "rose colored glasses".Times are better but there is still a lot of room for improvement.But sit by and do nothing.Nothing changes.


Why? Just because someone is kinky does not mean we will be compatible.

It's like saying all chefs or lawyers or people who love the color blue should stick together.

I fail to see what improvements need to be made that you are referring to.

Ignorance about what?




cordeliasub -> RE: Respecting one another (3/23/2013 5:59:46 AM)

It's been my experience that no matter what things they might have in common, people are going to be people. That means some will be outgoing, some won't, some will be open, some won't. heck, some will have tact and some won't. Within any large group will be smaller groups that seem to get along well with each other, and there will be some people who rub each other the wrong way. It has been true in every online and IRL group I have ever been a part of, whether it had anything to do with kink or not. You want vitriol and disharmony? Go join a "Christian" forum - lol! They are the worst [:D]




Charles6682 -> RE: Respecting one another (3/23/2013 6:31:04 AM)

My first experience going to any BDSM social event was a positive experience.Most people there were very nice.Since it was my first BDSM social event,I was nervous.I went alone.Yet,many people there helped me to feel comfortable.I am glad my first experience was a positive experience.If anything,I started going back to that same place for years.It also helped it was on "private property" and those people would not tolerate disrespect of other people in the lifestyle.




njlauren -> RE: Respecting one another (3/23/2013 11:32:52 AM)

LP and others hit the nail on the head, expecting the "leather community' or "the BD/SM community" to be any different than any other community is going to be a disappointment, because face it, no matter what "community' you belong to, it is a group of people, who have their own fetishes, triggers, beliefs, arrogance, stupidity, brilliance, you name it..they are human. For years we have heard of the 'LGBT community', but want to know something? It is no better or worse then any group. There are gays and lesbians who sincerely hope trans people would disappear off the face of the earth, dykes who think that am M to F trans person is someone trying to grab power by transitioning because women have gained power, gay guys who think m to f's are all gay guys afraid to be gay *sigh*.......there are gays and lesbians who think bi's are either gays who can't admit it, or straights 'playing' out a fantasy, and it goes on. There are lesbians who think unless a woman totally 'throws away' what they see as 'ingrained male ideas of beauty (i.e don't wear makeup, don't keep in shape, wear dowdy clothing) they aren't a lesbian; in the trans world, I faced shit from a lot of quarters because we were trying to do it keeping the family together, it was the one time gays, straights, and trans all seemed to align on something......you get the idea.


I belonged to a BD/SM group for a while, and the group almost fell apart..why? A power struggle, they were acting like the fucking Rotary or PTA, it was pathetic.

And yes, when your new, it seems like there is this incredible world full of interesting people, who are living their own lives and so forth, it just seems so different then the 'outside' world....it is colored by finding yourself, finding your own bliss. The problem is, when you look, you see it is no different then anywhere else, there are those who claim 'true authority' by being 'old guard' or 'trained by old guard', there are those who claim they are true because they have read every Gor book, there are those who claim a female sub is just recreating patriarchy, those that make claims like a switch is 'less authentic' and doesn't have a 'real' lifestyle, it goes on and on. An analogy comes to mind, at the funeral for Martin Luther King, someone (I think it was Sammy Davis) became very emotional, and went over to a large group of mourners, with his hands outstretched, saying "my people", and one of the people kind of acting as usher/security (might have been Rosie Greer, not sure) told him "Sam, some of that group are your people, some of the others will steal the rings off your fingers"). It is like that in the BD/SM world, some of the people will be friends, others with be acquaintances, and others will be telling you because you are short/tall/fat/skinny/ bi/gay/lesbian/gay/switch/top/bottom/D/s/M/s, whatever, that you 'aren't authentic', 'doing it wrong' , a 'joke', whatever.

Speaking only for myself, I found that the circles I was in were a lot more open minded about me being trans then certain aspects of 'The lgbt community', but I found idiots all over, comes with the territory. Keep in mind it is made up of human beings who love to squabble, fight, bicker, name call, spit and so forth, and you will do fine:)




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