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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/22/2013 4:14:20 PM

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They acknowledged it was a mistake and apologized....please...

I`m starting to think you`re a rightie pretending to be a middle of the road type.

I`ve never heard an apology from fox and fiends for calling our President a marxist/stalinist/dictator who gives racial preferences to blacks..

They`re trying to push that fake "new black panther" story again at faux news.....but of course......there`s an imagined liberal news-outlet somewhere out there........who`s also race baiting....... soo they`re alllll the same-kumby-ya yada yada.....

That story was a ticky tack story that was more about photo-shop and those that fall for it.Not about a liberal bias.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/22/2013 6:40:14 PM

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I`ve never heard an apology from fox and fiends for calling our President a marxist/stalinist/dictator who gives racial preferences to blacks..

That's funny in a sense. Obama said his administration would be transparent (harkening back to Bush) and look like America.

His cabinet is all white, except Holder, and hardly transparent.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/22/2013 8:12:21 PM

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Which do you prefer?

It is endlessly amusing, and in a way kinda scary, that people who might otherwise be presumed to have more intelligence than pond scum can seriously imagine that these kinds of counterfeit comparisons say anything whatsoever about anyone except themselves, and that the gloating they engender from like-minded supporters doesn't create a picture that is exactly the opposite of the one they contrived to present.

K.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/22/2013 10:53:58 PM

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A 'rightie' like Bayard Rustin? Or Phil Ochs?

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They acknowledged it was a mistake and apologized....please...

I`m starting to think you`re a rightie pretending to be a middle of the road type.

I`ve never heard an apology from fox and fiends for calling our President a marxist/stalinist/dictator who gives racial preferences to blacks..

They`re trying to push that fake "new black panther" story again at faux news.....but of course......there`s an imagined liberal news-outlet somewhere out there........who`s also race baiting....... soo they`re alllll the same-kumby-ya yada yada.....

That story was a ticky tack story that was more about photo-shop and those that fall for it.Not about a liberal bias.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 12:31:33 AM

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CNN is half partisan sold as neutral, peppered with the occasional flip. Meaning you can get half of the truth out of them.

It is humorous watching the modern media trying to be objective.

At least CNN isn't always crying about the apocolypse...Glenn Beck has somehow made that an acceptable mainstream thing to do... We have ammunition specifically on the market for killing zombies......maybe all is lost.

Either we will kill ourselves with global climate change or the coming commie conspiracy will enslave us all....

Enter sweet death....

I havn't had any trust in CNN since the Gulf war with Arnett telling us a anthrax lab was a factory for baby formula and them pretending not to nitice that the Iraqi air defense minister makeing all those claims of success every day was a different man, same title different name. Doesn't take a trianed analyst to figure that one out but they pretended not to notice.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 12:32:56 AM

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lol you just don't see it. MSNBC is the foil to Fox.... But if you think they have such journalistic integrity, you might want to consider how partisan your lense might be.

Besides, I hear all this whining over Fox...Do you think they do nothing more than preach to the choir....If their audience cared to hear anything other than Rush like analysis they would tune into something else. Same with MSNBC. They cater to an audience that wants to be spoon fed talking points all day long. At least both networks don't hide the bias in some kind of subconscience messaging routine. Better to have it in the open than have to find it.

Watching cable news in general will suck the intelligence right out of you rather than add to it.

just my

Bull shit.....

Reality,the reported news,the record, doen`t have a political bias.

MSNBC isn`t the arm of the DNC......nor do they coordinate talking points or work each other`s bullshit stories,like the GOP and fox does.

And they don`t float bullshit stories or make up shit,trying to fool people.....like fox does...

They are not equivalent or the counterpart of the bullshiting rightist media.

Oh yeah,liberals also have a war on women`s rights,oh yeah,liberals are also bashing poor folks,oh yeah...liberal media is also spreading race-baiting lies, likeChuck Hagel being part of a Mulsim terrorist group....

Yup...completely the same....sure...we get it.....

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 12:48:45 AM

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I think you may be pushing the envelope a bit.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 3:11:20 AM

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I admit there is a third way to look at things....

I call it "The Decline of human intelligence with the advancement of Technology."

In other words, give it a few more generations and there will be death penalties for traffic violations.

The extremists on the left and right are just examples of the growing stupidity of the human race.

That and the fact that the species Felis silvestris catus has been guiding human breeding with the goal of making humans so dumb so they are easily entertained by reality tv shows like "The Jersey Shore," Dancing with the stars, and talk shows like Maury, The View, Jerry Springer, and anything on Fox News or MSNBC

Seriously, the hope that humanity will someday reach a point in its evolution that it exists in some Utopian paradise is rather naive. As much as I admire John Lennon, he was a bit of an idealistic dreamer with delusions that the human race could somehow get past its petty bullshit differences and achieve greatness.

As for the Tea Party, they are an example of the other extreme.

Both think they have the answer to the world's problems but fail to realize the human race is a failed evolutionary experiment and destined to go the way of the dinosaurs, the only difference is that humans have the technological know how to do it to themselves.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 4:16:51 AM

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Is it insulting and hateful to publish a video of some insulting, hateful persons saying what they feel in their hearts? Or is it more tolerant to ignore people like those shown in the second video?

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nope that is universal. no side is innocent. I am pointing out the irony of his assertion. Promoting tolerance through insult and hate.

How about this popular item sold at the 2008 Republican Convention, and found on many bumpers of cars and trucks in predominantly Republican states? Is it more tolerant to ignore it's existance?

First it was/is Jews, then American Indians, then blacks and...now liberals. If taken to heart, nobody left standing in Wash., DC.

What this is...is the political eloquence of the right today. Reinforces the high probability the right will never elect another president.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:02:12 AM

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The topic is, IMO, obvious:

"HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH SOMEONE WHO IS DIFFERENT THAN YOU OR HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS OR BELIEFS THAN YOU?"

Video One: Let someone who is different than you or has different ideas or beliefs than you live unmolested - they might achieve things that could benefit all mankind

Video Two: Kill someone who is different than you or has different ideas or beliefs than you - that will somehow make the world a better place.

From Video One:

* Martin Luther King - killed by a White/Whites for the "crime" of being non-White and demanding the same rights as Whites
* Anne Frank - killed by Nazis for the "crime" of being Jewish
* Harvey Milk - killed by a hetrosexual for the "crime" of being homosexual
* Eric Byrd - killed by Whites for the "crime" of being non-White
* Matthew Pearl - Killed by radical Muslims for the "crime" of being non-Muslim and reporting on radical Islam
* Matthew Shepard - killed by hetrosexuals for the "crime" of being homosexual

From Video Two:

"Nothing better than a dead liberal"

* Martin Luther King - "Nothing better than a dead uppity Black man"
* Anne Frank - "Nothing better than a dead Jew girl"
* Harvey Milk - "Nothing better than a dead faggot"
* Eric Byrd - "Nothing better than a dead Black man"
* Matthew Pearl - "Nothing better than a dead newspaperman who reports things we don't like"
* Matthew Shepard - "Nothing better than a dead faggot"

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:09:21 AM

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First it was/is Jews, then American Indians, then blacks and...now liberals. If taken to heart, nobody left standing in Wash., DC.

What this is...is the political eloquence of the right today. Reinforces the high probability the right will never elect another president.

Oferfucksake, get a sense of humor.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:10:39 AM

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Is it insulting and hateful to publish a video of some insulting, hateful persons saying what they feel in their hearts? Or is it more tolerant to ignore people like those shown in the second video?

You tell me.

K.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:43:26 AM

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First it was/is Jews, then American Indians, then blacks and...now liberals. If taken to heart, nobody left standing in Wash., DC.

What this is...is the political eloquence of the right today. Reinforces the high probability the right will never elect another president.

Oferfucksake, get a sense of humor.

K.

I quite agree, get a sense of humor. No I am not being sarcastic.

K, I saw a similar pic during the election with the opposite point.

It is hard not to laugh when you look at extremists on both sides of the fence. They are a minority, granted a very vocal minority, but such is the power of the media.

I had friends on facebook that unfriended me when I pointed out that the democrats were not trying to ban all guns, just assault weapons, and would probably fail at that ban. Which it seems they have.

The point is, if you cant laugh at some of the idiots that claim to speak for the people, then who can you laugh at?

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:56:53 AM

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The point is, if you can't laugh at some of the idiots that claim to speak for the people, then who can you laugh at?

You can and should laugh at these people - but you should not ignore them because they take themselves seriously. And since they take themselves seriously, we all should take them seriously - even while we are laughing at them.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:59:06 AM

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The point is, if you can't laugh at some of the idiots that claim to speak for the people, then who can you laugh at?

You can and should laugh at these people - but you should not ignore them because they take themselves seriously. And since they take themselves seriously, we all should take them seriously - even while we are laughing at them.

Oh I take them seriously.

But if you look at my first post in this thread, I still maintain that at the rate of extremist population growth and increasing stupidity of these people, we will have death penalties for traffic tickets.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 6:14:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

The topic is, IMO, obvious:

"HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH SOMEONE WHO IS DIFFERENT THAN YOU OR HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS OR BELIEFS THAN YOU?"

Video One: Let someone who is different than you or has different ideas or beliefs than you live unmolested - they might achieve things that could benefit all mankind

Video Two: Kill someone who is different than you or has different ideas or beliefs than you - that will somehow make the world a better place.

I think I prefer the first video, although I couldn't really watch the entire second video. I got the general gist of it when I heard one woman say "boil liberals in a teapot."

However, liberals can make incendiary comments as well, so neither side is really innocent in this regard.

Still, I agree that there should be greater civility and less inflammatory rhetoric in political discourse.

I've always liked the song "Imagine," and I mostly agree with the sentiment contained in the lyrics. Of course, I think we're a long way before we get to having no countries, no religion, or no possessions, as mentioned in the song. I've also learned to grow somewhat wary of those who "imagine" a bit too much, since they can cause a lot of misery as they go out to create their perfect world and kill anyone who stands in their way (such as those mentioned in the video).

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/23/2013 5:11:41 PM

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I'd be more impressed if people cared enough about the human being behind the polemics to remember that his name was **James** Byrd.

Eric Byrd is a musician of some note.

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RE: Two ways at looking at life - 3/24/2013 9:10:35 AM

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Now that's good thinking: how much aggro would Captain Magicpants have saved himself if he'd shot his dog instead of putting it on the roof of his car?

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