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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 11:44:42 AM   
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If the system would crash, the safest way to protect yourself, is get coins that still had a great precentage of silver. Pre-1964. Having gold or silver bars would not be practical. How do you know its real? How do you assay gold or silver? How would you know the purity? the value? How much would you "break off" to pay for food? But everyone knows what a silver dime, quarter, etc looks like, and the silver content. Buy siver coins not in good codition, strictly by the weight of the silver. You are only interested in the silver content, Not the nuministic value. If the system doesn't crash. You lost nothing and own coins worth their silver content. If the sytem does crash paper money would be useless but these silver coins could be used for barter that could save your life.

Off topic but useful to know in these times.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 11:53:21 AM   
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The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff.

Once that is done, the Illuminati will send their agents out to pick up people like RO and place them in re education camps.
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Also next Tuesday at 6AM local time, a major earthquake will occur on the west coast making Las Vegas a sea side town, President Obama will make being a Republican a Federal Capital crime, Charlie Sheen will clean up and become a Jesuit Monk, Lindsey Lohan will suddenly revert back to her clean wholesome self, and the loch ness monster will be captured at a Hooters in Newark New Jersey.

Ah but that chip won't have MY pin #, so there.

Sure would like to know just who the 'Illuminati' is. Even George Washington feared or at least referenced this group. I am thinking even he was talking international bankers. Sure wouldn't surprise me.



With appreciation to jlf1961 -

I've read a bit of sourced material on that group, having it's origins quasi-attached with the Templars and later the Rosicrucian et al (such as CFR, Tri-Laterals, etc as modern day working bodies), connected to the Jesuits with Rothschild as Banker. The Illuminati were supposedly destroyed in Bavaria.

you might enjoy this quote -

In 1720, Michael Angelo Tamburini, then General of the Jesuits, said to the Duke of Brancas, "See, my lord, from this room—from this room I govern not only Paris, but China: not only China, but the whole world, without any one knowing how ‘tis managed." - History of the Jesuits Vol. 1, p.107, Andrew Steinmetz, 1848.

The whole Illuminati et al gets awful murky. What's interesting is that Jesuit Lorenzo Ricci, Black Pope till his death in 1775, was a force behind instigating the American Revolution. Illuminati et al symbolism is all over Washington DC, from it's layout to the doors (and also inside) the Supreme Court. Even the Washington Monument is tribute to the obelisk in St. Peter's Square, Vatican.

An interesting read can be found here.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 11:57:59 AM   
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There is only one source for reading about the Illuminati:

Everything else is horseshit.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 11:59:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

There is only one source for reading about the Illuminati:

Everything else is horseshit.



Is it any good?

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 12:01:45 PM   
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You've been so right for years. People always tell you that you're nuts, and then you're right, time and time and time again.
They keep making excuses for why you're always right, and then go on to say that you'll be wrong next time. But you never are.
Keep on it man.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 12:12:31 PM   
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You've been so right for years.


Do you have a single example?


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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 1:37:09 PM   
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You've been so right for years.


Do you have a single example?



He said one day it will be Tuesday, once.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 3:26:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml


quote:

ORIGINAL: wittynamehere

You've been so right for years.


Do you have a single example?



Sure; Look at your watch

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it's jackass o'clock


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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 3:30:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff.



so whats with all these countries going under? japan, russia, greece, new zealand?

So since you think its so funny you obviously must be a monetary expert, so why dont you explain to us how the interest can be paid off in this money monopoly that the feds have.

Japan is not 'going under' they just have a history of printing (literally) billions of yen, the banks way over-leveragd and are taking more than a 'lost decade' to clear out the shit paper. Russia is not going under because they have more oil than God yet one I think could still buy a pound of rubles with a dollar while their banks are as corrupt as the ruling party and have no real money and as for Greece and New Zealand ? They are a test case of a rather small system taking the Japanese route and owing others money not just mostly themselves.

I could expand and add that there isn't a single banking system on the planet that operates in a free market that also doesn't then and for obviously capitalist/banking gambling yet risk averse reasons...require socialism of banking risk. Once the socialism of the bankers doesn't work (not enough money) the taxpayers are on the hook and when they can't afford it...HELP !!

Like I've been trying to tell you all, society exists to serve these institutions not the other way around and the only difference between the bankers and Bernie Madoff is Madoff didn't have the govt. to bail him out. The international banking community are the biggest whores on two legs people.



well whats criminal about it is that the banks extend you credit but you have to pay in money. Its not a trick on words its a banking scam. They merely make a book entry. If you lend someone 100 bucks that is 100 bucks less that you have to use for yourself. Not true with the banks as its just a shuffle for them. If someone does not pay the bank back they are out the labor and servicing charge for the 100 bucks but have lost nothing else. Its the investors who would be out the money on a defaulted loan. What happens when you make a bad investment? Thats right you lose it. Not the banks. They take these investments extend credits on them, insure them, believe it or not they securitize your fucking application, convert it to a draft, send it to the federal reserve, who funds the account for the full value, and umpt it into a pool. Once securitized and changed into a draft the bank having defaced the note [making it invalid as a note] the bank no longer has either the right or capacity to sue. Thats ancient fucking commercial law. Now [UCC] Attorneys are about fucking useless. There is way more money leaving the system go completely to shit for them than there is in fighting the good fight. In fact pro se's that know what they are doing have more power than attorneys do in court because they are not indentured to the BAR association. There are pro se's out there who have taken their matters to naca attorneys who said they did not have a case only to run it through and kick their asses as a pro se.

The banking/government marriage is the biggest rico [mafia] action that will ever be known on this planet.




that has been and always is the problem with the europeon monetary model.

every fucking country on their model is fucking broke!






Still waiting for all the drive by smart remarkers to tell me how this monetarey system works and the cause of the shrinking american dollar if not the fact it is a DEBT DOLLAR hence inflation. Come on, drive by smart remarkers how the hell did the american dollar lose all its value to nearly zero?

Why has gold retained its value?

Tough questions

When the tough questions are asked the tough leave town!




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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 5:54:52 PM   
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First, the presses are NOT running. The treasury could NOT print 'Federal Reserve Notes' fast enough kinkroids. The fed is NOT now printing new money and never has actually printed new currency to add to circulation.

The QE1, QE2 and some say the ongoing QE3 are simply hitting a key on a computer that has the fed trade Fed notes/bonds for shit-paper the banks have on their books and thus transfers that money to the asset side of the books from the liability side.

As for fed ownership. This came out in the 1976 House banking committee report as follows: Here

It is quite a read and a long one but it is my understanding that the US govt. owns 20% of the fed and privateers own 80%. Profits are limited to 6% return on equity with the balance going to the US Treasury. The fed has been sending actual cash money in the form of 100's of billion over the 20th century to the US Treasury.

That the fed is now currently buying US debt, the same debt the taxpayers (treasury) any fed debt buyer, plus interest. The income tax was passed to pay the coming and since ongoing interest on these bonds.

The fed's rationale was to steady the money supply, it has not, to steady the debt service, it has not and to control inflation...it has not. It was also to eliminate economic bubbles, it has not.

We are now stuck with it as when Kennedy issued executive order 11110 to remove fed notes (as currency) from circulation to be replaced with silver certificates...was one of many reasons he bought himself a big hole in his head.

When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball.

Reagan wasn't up to all that but otherwise wasn't going to play ball. It took [them] all of 69 days to shoot his ass. RONALD REAGAN was supposed to die kinkroids. If you wish to believe yet another BS story about yet another troubled loner over some ridiculous crush on a movie actor...go ahead.

After that attempt on his life...he played ball and went from $1 trillion in fed debt to $4 trillion.


The U.S. Govt. owns exactly 0% of the fractional banking/Federal Reserve system.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 6:55:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff.



so whats with all these countries going under? japan, russia, greece, new zealand?

So since you think its so funny you obviously must be a monetary expert, so why dont you explain to us how the interest can be paid off in this money monopoly that the feds have.

Japan is not 'going under' they just have a history of printing (literally) billions of yen, the banks way over-leveragd and are taking more than a 'lost decade' to clear out the shit paper. Russia is not going under because they have more oil than God yet one I think could still buy a pound of rubles with a dollar while their banks are as corrupt as the ruling party and have no real money and as for Greece and New Zealand ? They are a test case of a rather small system taking the Japanese route and owing others money not just mostly themselves.

I could expand and add that there isn't a single banking system on the planet that operates in a free market that also doesn't then and for obviously capitalist/banking gambling yet risk averse reasons...require socialism of banking risk. Once the socialism of the bankers doesn't work (not enough money) the taxpayers are on the hook and when they can't afford it...HELP !!

Like I've been trying to tell you all, society exists to serve these institutions not the other way around and the only difference between the bankers and Bernie Madoff is Madoff didn't have the govt. to bail him out. The international banking community are the biggest whores on two legs people.



well whats criminal about it is that the banks extend you credit but you have to pay in money. Its not a trick on words its a banking scam. They merely make a book entry. If you lend someone 100 bucks that is 100 bucks less that you have to use for yourself. Not true with the banks as its just a shuffle for them. If someone does not pay the bank back they are out the labor and servicing charge for the 100 bucks but have lost nothing else. Its the investors who would be out the money on a defaulted loan. What happens when you make a bad investment? Thats right you lose it. Not the banks. They take these investments extend credits on them, insure them, believe it or not they securitize your fucking application, convert it to a draft, send it to the federal reserve, who funds the account for the full value, and umpt it into a pool. Once securitized and changed into a draft the bank having defaced the note [making it invalid as a note] the bank no longer has either the right or capacity to sue. Thats ancient fucking commercial law. Now [UCC] Attorneys are about fucking useless. There is way more money leaving the system go completely to shit for them than there is in fighting the good fight. In fact pro se's that know what they are doing have more power than attorneys do in court because they are not indentured to the BAR association. There are pro se's out there who have taken their matters to naca attorneys who said they did not have a case only to run it through and kick their asses as a pro se.

The banking/government marriage is the biggest rico [mafia] action that will ever be known on this planet.




that has been and always is the problem with the europeon monetary model.

every fucking country on their model is fucking broke!



Still waiting for all the drive by smart remarkers to tell me how this monetarey system works and the cause of the shrinking american dollar if not the fact it is a DEBT DOLLAR hence inflation. Come on, drive by smart remarkers how the hell did the american dollar lose all its value to nearly zero?

Why has gold retained its value?

Tough questions

When the tough questions are asked the tough leave town!

I mentioned and have mentioned it several times...INFLATION. Japan for 40 years had the #2 economy and the 24th standard of living...inflation. Don't know where you've been.

Most inflation is speculation but also cheap capital for leveraging speculation. While the supply of oil for example has been plentiful, it's almost $4/gal for gas for two reason...speculation and because America is the world's largest gasoline exporter.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/26/2013 11:22:07 PM   
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"because America is the world's largest gasoline exporter"

Wait what? I might have missed it. What year(s)? According to who and how many bbl?

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/27/2013 6:47:03 AM   
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Why has gold retained its value?


It hasn't any more than stocks and bonds have.


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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/27/2013 10:12:14 AM   
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"because America is the world's largest gasoline exporter"

Wait what? I might have missed it. What year(s)? According to who and how many bbl?

Found it at Here I know there is another source...just can't find it yet.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/28/2013 7:50:42 AM   
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Thats not corruption, thats greed.  the service of greed and capitalism are fuckbuddies of the highest order.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/28/2013 8:17:23 PM   
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no its fraud

fraud is corruption

its gotten SO big the courts are finally forced to deal with it

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/28/2013 8:31:35 PM   
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Look, I know for a fact that the WORLD monetary system is going to collapse, and it will be my fault...

I think I am real close to solving the great mystery of alchemy, I am near to discovering the Philosopher's stone to turn base metals to gold.

I am also working on the generation of free energy from a dark energy reactor.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/28/2013 10:06:57 PM   
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Thats not corruption, thats greed.  the service of greed and capitalism are fuckbuddies of the highest order.


Though there are greedy components in Capitalism there are also greedy components in Fascism, Socialism, Communism, and of course Corporatism. The reality is when there is one entity or several entities which have too much power you run into a situations where that power corrupts the people that have it. Sort of follows the old cliche that "power corrupts absolutely."

So, to fault capitalism for greed would require one to ignore all of the other economics, political, and governmental systems which have ever existed as not having greed.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/28/2013 10:08:33 PM   
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no its fraud

fraud is corruption

its gotten SO big the courts are finally forced to deal with it


Typically, at least in my opinion, greed would be the main motive to create fraud. Well, probably in most circumstances.

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RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a gr... - 3/30/2013 6:50:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Thats not corruption, thats greed.  the service of greed and capitalism are fuckbuddies of the highest order.


Though there are greedy components in Capitalism there are also greedy components in Fascism, Socialism, Communism, and of course Corporatism. The reality is when there is one entity or several entities which have too much power you run into a situations where that power corrupts the people that have it. Sort of follows the old cliche that "power corrupts absolutely."

So, to fault capitalism for greed would require one to ignore all of the other economics, political, and governmental systems which have ever existed as not having greed.

Hardly. Fascism is complete political control that empowers the corporate/capitalist greed. Almost all greed discovered in anything that resembles 'socialism' in that it has only been a partial experiment in history is not systematic and hasn't never created the culture of greed demonstrated in capitalism. Communism reflects the inherent greed in it leadership and leadership only and corporatism shows its greed every day.

Thus to demonstrate the obvious greed in capitalism in no way requires me show any lack or presence thereof in any form of govt. or business. In fact one could argue that democracy shows it failings in how it allows greed under the cover of equal representation and participation in govt. especially given that wealth is now constitutionally protected speech, [sic] to rear its ugly head.

Greed is the most demonstrable aspect of sin in what Dante described as the overriding sin in life...pride.

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