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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 4:26:36 AM   
merge9


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the true problem i have with it is orgasm control and the fact she sticks things in her that arent my cock.


It's doomed. Move on. But first take some time to analyze why you pick women who are unsuitable for you.

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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 5:13:07 AM   
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Sometimes I think people get a bit overwrought over rather simple decisions in life. If she is your submissive mate, ask her to stop 'caming' if you wish it so.

If she is your slave or about to be your slave then order her to stop if you wish it so.

Otherwise if it were me, I'd encourage her, maybe come up with a niche market on cam then...save & invest, save & invest.

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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 6:26:46 AM   
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I've read this thread with interest because it reminds me of one of my earlier enterprises when I 'discovered' a cam girl that I really liked.

I was not only watching her on cam but also spending a lot of time with her on Yahoo too!
I was even chatting with her older sister for quite a while (and I still hear from her once in a while).
And by 'quite a while' I am talking 3-4 years, not just a few months!!
In Dom's case, his cam girl is only 200 miles away - mine was 10,000 miles away across the other side of the world.

I can understand Dom's frustration as I was attempting something along similar lines.
What it basically boiled down to was the fact that until you can provide an alternative to their income and security (food and a roof etc), they dare not rock the boat in any way shape or form because without their 'clients' they just cannot afford to live.
It really is that simple.
So, until then, they are almost forced into that type of work because they just cannot afford the time to go searching for anything else.
Apart from which, it can be very lucrative for essentially very little work!

Trying to exercise your domliness onto someone and effectively telling them to give up their work with nothing to replace the income is akin to banging your head against a brick wall coz it just ain't gonna happen. They simply can't afford to give it up on your say-so.

Even if Dom's 3-day event generates something positive between them, until he can replace her income and security, he isn't her dom and she isn't his sub - at least not yet.
Personally, I think he's on the road to nowhere and wasting his time and energy.


I still say hello to my cam girl once in a while but that's as far as it'll go now - I have other fish to fry these days.


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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 10:08:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domccc
I do want to control her sexually... i dislike the fact that she cums on cam for men, they cam to cam... etc.

So then tell her to stop. Is it really true that all cam-sex girls actually have a real orgasm with every client? For that matter, is insertion something that all cam-girls do?

i desire training her to need me and only me.
OK, so what drives her need for men other than you (besides the obvious money angle)? Is this woman wired monogamous or poly? If it's poly are you really sure you want to try to train that out of her?

but, when she breaks orders.... it severely turns me off
... not to mention demonstrates that you're living a fictional relationship. Yeah, I have a pretty short fuse (zero tolerance) for disobedience also. The question to you is "what are you going to to about it?" If you allow the disobedience then you are setting up a pattern forever that ... well ... allows disobedience.

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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 1:26:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domccc

I do want to control her sexually... i dislike the fact that she cums on cam for men, they cam to cam... etc. It's not the same as stripping, because there is nothing sexual happening in stripping.. strippers can be naked on you but no cock in you etc etc...

A-Toys and insertables ain't cocks.
B-Man, you need to get out more. I've known some strippers who go way beyond just dancing. Lap dances to start. Then there's the gals who do Bachelor parties and such...
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in camming, she is sticking all diff toys in her, etc etc, vibrators etc, i desire training her to need me and only me.

Yeah, but that shits a mental thing far more than a physical thing. Get way in her head is how you get to a gal. With men,it's easy. Get their cock and the mind follows. With women, it's almost always the opposite. Capture her heart and no matter what she's doing, she'll be thinking about doing it with/for you.

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She wont be deprived, but i feel it's a dominance thing...

I beg to differ. This has zip to do with dominance. In fact, in the end, it's got zip to do with her and everything to do with what's going on inside of you. Not to be rude or anything, but your problem is, well, your problem. Inside job, here.

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one i cant break.

Uuuh, that's not good. It really helps in dominating another to be able to exercise self domination first. I'd suggest "'can't" means more like "opts not to."
Because who the funk would want to turn over control of, oooh, everything in their life, to a person who can't even control themselves?

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Furthermore i caught myself peeking on her cam today...

Creeeeeeepy

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first time, seeing if she was following orders not to do anything sexual.

Red flag. Red flag. Either you trust her or you don't. And if you gotta check up on her, that speaks volumes.
And kinda stalkeresque too.

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She didn't, however she stated she would "do a gold show when she got home from the bar and was drunk", this severely angered me, due to the fact she promised me she wouldn't drink, and also isn't supposed to be doing anything sexual until tomorrow when we meet.

No bueno. JMHO and all, but if she doesn't do what you say, you may or may not be in a relationship, but it sure as hell ain't a bound one. At least, not in my book.

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She contradicted herself.

Sounds more like point blank disobedience to moi. And, not that there's not enough drama going on, but it's a bad bad sign when you have to order someone not to drink. I mean, people who don't have issues with booze can take it or leave it-they certainly don't need to be ordered not too. And to break the edict, yeah, we're getting towards run for the hills time.

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She could be lying to her users... however it wouldn't make sense because they have a connection to her that mirrors "big brother" sexually ... I was deeply wounded that she would say such a thing. Honestly almost brought me to tears due to the fact i had so much hope in her.

Dooood, this sounds like you have a bad case of dom frenzy.

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We will see how tonight plays out, but truly i may not see her tomorrow... i may let it go depending on how she acts tonight... i wouldn't be pissed if she didn't say she was following orders "yes sir no sir etc", but, when she breaks orders.... it severely turns me off (she is very hot, and just gets hit on all day), but the fact remains, so what? I can and could get a new girl every day, doesn't mean i want to, means i want to spend my time with one, the right one... it's a toss up at this point.


A-Why be with a gal who you don't trust?
B-Why stick with a gal who doesn't obey?
C-Why stay with a gal who isn't making you all that happy?
To me, BDSM is simple. I have three rules. Her point in my life is to serve, please and obey. Sounds to me like she's 0 fer 3.
Looks ain't everything. And the ego rush that comes from being with that gal that all the guys want-yeah, that's nice at first, but really comes off as kinda shallow and pathetic. Guys who date gals simply as sex objects, yeah, tells me nothing bout the gal and everything about him.
Cut this thing anyway you want, in the end, strip away all the cuffs and kink and latex and blowtorches, and it's just a relationship. Nothing more. Nothing less. And if there ain't trust at the root, the foundation is gonna crumble.

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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 2:04:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domccc

My submissive is a Cam girl, and we have already agreed that within 1 year she will not be one anymore, however, how to control her properly (i love orgasm control), is another question.

I wonder does anyone here have experience in this realm?


I am NOT a cam girl anymore but I do fetish videos both for my sites and for other producers. More money it in it and long term money for less work. Lol

I make GOOD money doing what I do.

The reality is this is my JOB. A job I had before my relationship with my primary began and one he was full aware of when he got involved with me. For my primary to tell me he no longer wanted me to do this. We would have to have a SERIOUS discussion about how HE was going to replace that income.

Now we have come to agreements about what I can and wont do and frankly even within that discussion he and I both realized that by limiting those things I am limiting the money I can make. However, there are basic stuff that should be standard in the industry but it's not but we have agreed it would be standard for ME 100% of the time.


My question to you is IF you knew you wanted a relationship that included orgasm control and controlling if / when someone masturbates ect why would you KNOWINGLY get involved with a cam girl?

Do you realize as a cam girl she can do "couples" shows where you and her are on cam and you can control those things during the web cam sessions? Although she may loose some money, it is a viable option. There are also other things a webcam do that don't involve insertion or even orgasm for herself. Has she or you discussed those possibilities?

ETA:The couples shows would ONLY work if you where not 200 miles away from here (local on a normal basis).







< Message edited by TheLilSquaw -- 3/29/2013 2:15:08 PM >


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RE: Submissive is a cam girl... - 3/29/2013 2:32:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domccc


I believe after we have an extended meeting (this weekend for 3 days straight), i'll feel much better about this situation. You are spot on, i suppose my life doesn't have much sounding boards about this, so you guys are there, i appreciate your dialogue and helping me tackle this challenge. And my order was "nothing sexual, no cumming, also no booze" from thurs at 1201, till when i see her in about 20 hrs. Normally, i wouldn't check things like this, but since the relationships is so new, i suppose i have to quality check these things upfront. It's in my nature, because she was inconsistent on following an order a few weeks ago, she was punished briefly, but as you all know its very difficult to control someone 200 miles away via phone, when your physically in their presence, then things become much different IMO.




OP, I didn't read this when I 1st responded to your original question.
However, aren't YOU already trying to control her JOB. Today, not a year from now? So isn't it you who is lying and breaking your word and being totally inconsistent?

To ME you are.

THAT for me is a quality check for her and I would tell HER to walk the hell away on THAT.


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