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OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 3/29/2013 8:34:42 PM   
erieangel


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Status: offline 		OK. So even though I talked with my supervisor about this, I decided to try to forge a positive working relationship with the program director and ask her how I might respond the next time it happens. She was no help.

This is what has been going on.

Everybody at the Youth Lodge knows I was written up for leaving work a few weeks ago during a house meeting. One of the boys have since been pushing my buttons on a daily basis, refusing to do his chores, teasing me, talking back and basically being a brat. I try to patient I tell him he is behaving inappropriately, I ask him if anything is on his mind, ask him if he is worried about anything, if there is a reason why he feels the need to try to make somebody else feel bad, etc. But the behavior continues and I eventually tell him to just "shut the hell up". At that point the kid claims I am treating him like shit and says "I'm calling Joe's supervisor and if she gets enough complaints about you you're gonna be fired". Joe is my supervisor and his supervisor is the program director.

I don't know if he actually called the woman or not, I don't really care. She hasn't called me, so I don't think he has. But one day last week I went to Joe about the entire thing because I feel that the kid is really causing a hostile work environment. Joe agreed and talked with the kid. But he has continued. So I went to Joe's boss and asked her if she had any ideas on how I might respond better when he does this.

Her first question to me was "How do they know you were written up?"

Here is the kicker: SHE TOLD THEM!!!

She denies telling them.
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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/2/2013 4:31:24 PM   
erieangel


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OK. I don't usually renew old threads, but this woman has really got my steamed.

Today I found out that she turned around and put a write up in Joe's file for allegedly not supervising me correctly because I called her for advise on how better to do my job. Yes, Joe is my direct supervisor, but she is the program supervisor. She and I really haven't had much contact since she started working for the agency. I was trying to build some sort of working relationship with her.

Instead, she lectured me that the guys had no business knowing that I had been written up, when she had been the one to tell them and then she denied doing so. She blamed me and my lack of skills for my troubles on the job without giving any solid ideas on how to better deal with the situation. And then she writes up one of the best supervisors anybody ever had simply because I had the audacity to call her?

One of the guys at the house told me that he doesn't think she likes me. I think the cunt is on a power trip. Oh and when I told Joe that I had been thinking a specific word to describe her since last week, he laughed--probably knowing what word I was thinking because I wouldn't say it and he knows I would have said bitch.

She is just awful to work for. I don't trust her. Joe doesn't trust her. He said others don't trust her. How can a social services agency survive when the staff doesn't trust one another?

Oh and she has us keeping track of what we do, our billable units along with what we do that isn't billable on paper. I find it stupid. If I'm at the house, I'm working or I have down time, but I'm at the house. Or I'm with one of my community clients (or traveling to community client). Mobile people are either with clients or they are traveling. Time traveling and time with clients are recorded on the client records. Trainings are recorded. (I have one tomorrow morning at 8 am; which is why I'm home early tonight). Everything is computerized. And now the cunt wants it all on paper, too. And if I spend an hour in the house alone, because nobody is home, she wants to know that too. I'm afraid she's looking to shut down facility because it doesn't "make money" for the agency.

Those boys us!!!!




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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/2/2013 5:32:21 PM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Okay. So you're cursing at kids, and ignoring the chain of command. It sounds like you're spoiling for a fight with your director. You're disparaging her to your manager. You're complaining about having to track your time.

What is your goal here? Because in the places I have worked, I'd be getting raked over the coals and facing discipline for that.

Quit complaining. Find ways to solve your problems.

1. Do you have any ability to discipline the boys?
2. If you want your director's input, request a meeting with her, you, and Joe to brainstorm.
3. Do the paperwork asked.



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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/2/2013 5:43:33 PM   
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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/2/2013 5:52:50 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		It just doesn't seem like you are happy in your job, or very good at it either.

There is an easy solution. The question is; will your employer reach it, before you do?

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/2/2013 6:50:20 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		You keep insisting that the Program Director is the one who told them, how do you know this is true?

I worked with young people, they can be cagey and cunning and if you are not careful, manage to overhear things they aren't supposed to know... or they just extrapolate things.

You do seem to be out of step with the agency.
And you are coming across as blaming other people for your behavior and actions.

My guess is that is not your intent.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/3/2013 7:27:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking that her employer is very close to that decision as we speak.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/3/2013 7:57:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Okay. So you're cursing at kids, and ignoring the chain of command. It sounds like you're spoiling for a fight with your director. You're disparaging her to your manager. You're complaining about having to track your time.

What is your goal here? Because in the places I have worked, I'd be getting raked over the coals and facing discipline for that.

Quit complaining. Find ways to solve your problems.

1. Do you have any ability to discipline the boys?
2. If you want your director's input, request a meeting with her, you, and Joe to brainstorm.
3. Do the paperwork asked.




Bolded to reiterate.

Erie, what IS your goal here? What is it that you want your supervisor to do? What do you want your program director to do?

You really need to figure out your goal in all of this and think up some solutions. THEN and only then you should go talk to your supervisor first and then the program director if nothing happens with him.

Also, I highly recommend NOT negatively discussing the program director (or your supervisor) with ANYONE. Work is most certainly a place where, "If you can't say something nice don't say nothing [sic] at all."

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/3/2013 8:08:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Won't it suck, if these threads come up in the unlawful termination suit?

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/3/2013 8:10:47 PM   
servantforuse


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Status: offline 		Except. it won't be unlawfull, it will be a justified termination

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/3/2013 8:59:04 PM   
BamaD


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Status: offline 		It sounds like your new boss is a little insecure.
Nobody trusts her and she most likely sees, real or not, a plot every time she turns around.
Sounds like she is making a lot of changes to prove that she is the boss, on a subconsious if not conceous level.
If things go as they always did why does the organization need her.
It also seems that you are caught in the middle of something beyond your control.
This lack of control has to add to the stress for you.
Could it be that she is trying to justify keeping the facility open?
Unless you have proof don't assume she told themabout your write up, keep the possibility in mind but don't assume.
Good luck.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/3/2013 10:21:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: erieangel

She is just awful to work for.

You don't sound like a bowl of cherries either.

K.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 3:40:29 PM   
erieangel


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Status: offline 		I talked to Joe today. His supervisor came in not knowing what her job duties were supposed to be so he and some of the other supervisors took over some of the program director duties with the intention of teaching her those duties. 8 months later they are still performing those duties and she is creating other things for herself to do.

Oh and I asked Joe why he puts up with me sometimes. He asked me what I meant because in the nearly 4 years he's been my supervisor I have done my job; I've adapted to numerous changes. He also said that in the past when program directors have come into the lodge and gotten complaints from clients, the directors have been on the side of the staff--it is after all A PROGRAM, there are certain requirements and responsibilities we place on the guys. They are adults first, mentally ill second. If they are unable to function in society they are not suitable for our program. We will never that kind of support from this program director. She turns everything around to being the fault of the employees. A kid cussed me out for 20 minutes and that was fault because I created a culture that he could do so. Another kid was manipulative and bratty so badly that I not only went to my supervisor for help in dealing with it, I went to the program director for another perspective because I'd heard she had a lot of experience with that age group. That problem not became my fault, but my phone call became Joe's fault for not supervising me correctly.

And people who work in the community are being yelled at if they go a client's house for a scheduled appointment and that client had forgotten and isn't home. Like the worker has any control over that? I learned quickly to phone my community people prior to going to their houses, but I have only 2 clients in the community. Most people have the time to call all their clients all the time. And a few clients don't even have phones.

And the paperwork? I'm not the one who complains about that. Everybody complains that. It is something Patty came up with just 2 weeks after our reporting went online. It is redundant. Everything we do is right there on the server. It just seems like she's either too lazy to log on to get the information or doesn't know how. I think after what happened at the training yesterday morning, it might be latter. The woman couldn't even figure out how to operate her power point presentation without calling the IT department for assistance. She claimed to have used power point in the past and that it was only that particular machine she didn't know how to use. I wanted to say that maybe she should have made she knew how to use when she picked it up, wisely decided to keep my mouth shut--my mouth gets me into trouble far too often.

And yeah, she told them about the write up. I was there when she did so. I don't care that they know. I probably would them myself. I had behaved badly at work, took responsibility and they needed to know that. The thing that pisses me off is that she them and then lectured me that they didn't have any business knowing about it.






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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT - 4/4/2013 5:37:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Okay. So you're cursing at kids, and ignoring the chain of command. It sounds like you're spoiling for a fight with your director. You're disparaging her to your manager. You're complaining about having to track your time.

What is your goal here? Because in the places I have worked, I'd be getting raked over the coals and facing discipline for that.

Quit complaining. Find ways to solve your problems.

1. Do you have any ability to discipline the boys?
2. If you want your director's input, request a meeting with her, you, and Joe to brainstorm.
3. Do the paperwork asked.




Steven has an exceptionally valid point (several actually) and I agree with them wholeheartedly, being an owner of several companies, often surrounded by (some) staff who don't always fully understand "where we're going" on any given project or for that matter, in general.

I will add however, if you're working with young males above 12 or so....a push up bra will give you significant latitude.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 6:10:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		erie,

I want you to look at your last post. I know that you have just recently gone back on your meds, and I think that has much to do with your frustration at work. I'm not saying the program director isn't a twat, but I see in your posts someone that is behaving different to how she has behaved in the past.

In your last post, there were so many times where you missed words that were important to the sentence, and this is not typical of you. It seems as though you were typing this while being quite frantic.

Please, check with your doctors and try to get back on track.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 6:49:59 PM   
Ruas


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Status: offline 		I suggest you quit posting on this stuff like yesterday.

You are yacking about clients that are likely covered by HIPAA.

You are a caregiver and some of the stuff you are spouting like "But the behavior continues and I eventually tell him to just "shut the hell up". is going to buy you BIG trouble.

This is verbal abuse. This should be reported actually to DHS.

You could be out of a job, have criminal charges brought against you and black listed from certain areas of employments.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 8:22:27 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		Let's see, considering she hasn't named a single client, and she is anonymous here, good luck with the whole HIPAA concept. And "shut the hell up" is not verbal abuse unless it is used with a great deal of regularity.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 8:26:48 PM   
Marini


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
Let's see, considering she hasn't named a single client, and she is anonymous here, good luck with the whole HIPAA concept. And "shut the hell up" is not verbal abuse unless it is used with a great deal of regularity.


LL?
erie, you have a tough job, but I think you can do it if
you just stay out of your own way.
I hope everything works out for you erie, hang in there.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 8:38:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had one of those supervisors in the Air Force anyone came in with a complaint about our office it was our fault even if we could prove they were lying.
The way I got throughthat won't help you though, he tried to get rid of me by getting me a remote tour to Korea.
When that fell through he volunteered for a remote to El Salvador, doubt she will leave the country to get away from you.
Hope things get better for you soon.

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RE: OMG the program director is such a CUNT Times 2 - 4/4/2013 8:51:45 PM   
erieangel


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Let's see, considering she hasn't named a single client, and she is anonymous here, good luck with the whole HIPAA concept. And "shut the hell up" is not verbal abuse unless it is used with a great deal of regularity.



I haven't even given real names of my supervisor or the program director. Joe and Patty are names I made up.

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