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Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 5:59:09 AM   
MrBukani


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Status: offline 		None of the abrahamic religions is truly monotheistic in reality.
Simply because they all imply to have demi gods that are called angels.
It is nothing different to the ancient polytheistic beliefs.
As long as you believe in angels you are a heretic.
If there is only one God there is only one, period.
Angels have the same identity as the old demigods.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:31:25 AM   
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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:37:15 AM   
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As long as you believe in angels you are a heretic.



Of what matter is it to the lowly office clerk, knowing that Officers of the Corporation (to which he is beholden for his sustenance) exist does not make him Heretic as to the position of the CEO. To him they are all like god, but only one IS.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:46:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		What matters is the position of angels are that of demi gods. In that way all 3 religions are a blaspemy to the ONE.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:50:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		If God chooses to have angels under Him to carry out His bidding, who are we to argue?

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:52:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

None of the abrahamic religions is truly monotheistic in reality.
Simply because they all imply to have demi gods that are called angels.
It is nothing different to the ancient polytheistic beliefs.
As long as you believe in angels you are a heretic.
If there is only one God there is only one, period.
Angels have the same identity as the old demigods.




you actually don't know what a demigod is

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:55:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		So tell me your definition of a demigod Oh wise one. Saying I do not know explains very little to the one who does not know.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 6:56:54 AM   
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If God chooses to have angels under Him to carry out His bidding, who are we to argue?



Bingo.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:00:12 AM   
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So tell me your definition of a demigod Oh wise one. Saying I do not know explains very little to the one who does not know.


a demigod is generated by the union of a god and a human, like hercules for an example that was generated by juppiter and alcmene

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:10:17 AM   
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a demigod is generated by the union of a god and a human, like hercules for an example that was generated by juppiter and alcmene



Not within the context of the OP.

Simply because they all imply to have demi gods that are called angels.
Angels have the same identity as the old demigods.

Angels are not by the union of a god and a human.

MrBukani has defined his usage.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:11:36 AM   
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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:15:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		And within that definition (as eulero83 correctly points out) angels are not demigods.
It's worth bearing in mind that the misogynistic desert montheisms all define angels as representatives or envoys who are gifted some of the supreme being's authority and power. As they are merely extensions of His will, the notion that they are rivals with power that even begins to approach His, is nonsense.
Just ask Lucifer.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:16:03 AM   
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If God chooses to have angels under Him to carry out His bidding, who are we to argue?



Bingo.

We dont argue with God but with false scripture.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:19:00 AM   
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And within that definition (as eulero83 correctly points out) angels are not demigods.
It's worth bearing in mind that the misogynistic desert montheisms all define angels as representatives or envoys who are gifted some of the supreme being's authority and power. As they are merely extensions of His will, the notion that they are rivals with power that even begins to approach His, is nonsense.
Just ask Lucifer.
Aha our morning star Lucifer. Satan does not want to rival God? I think the devil does.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:20:45 AM   
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You mean like God did with the virgin Mary?


Nope, because Christ was another aspect of the Christian God, rather than an independent entity in his own right. A couple of the Gospels are very firm about that. An avatar (in the Hindu sense) seems a lot more apt than describing Christ as a demigod.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:22:07 AM   
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And within that definition (as eulero83 correctly points out) angels are not demigods.
It's worth bearing in mind that the misogynistic desert montheisms all define angels as representatives or envoys who are gifted some of the supreme being's authority and power. As they are merely extensions of His will, the notion that they are rivals with power that even begins to approach His, is nonsense.
Just ask Lucifer.
Aha our morning star Lucifer. Satan does not want to rival God? I think the devil does.


He desperately wants to, but he lacks the capability to do so.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:22:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aha, angels are heavenly messengers created before mankind to instruct them...
Why?
Can't God speak on it's own accord. Mind you I abject calling God, Him. Thats where the blasphemy began. We cannot even call the great One God because of that actually. That's why the jews said we cant call the One by it's name.

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:25:40 AM   
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And within that definition (as eulero83 correctly points out) angels are not demigods.
It's worth bearing in mind that the misogynistic desert montheisms all define angels as representatives or envoys who are gifted some of the supreme being's authority and power. As they are merely extensions of His will, the notion that they are rivals with power that even begins to approach His, is nonsense.
Just ask Lucifer.
Aha our morning star Lucifer. Satan does not want to rival God? I think the devil does.


He desperately wants to, but he lacks the capability to do so.

He wants to, but cannot and he is not human. DEMIGOD!

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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:29:16 AM   
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And within that definition (as eulero83 correctly points out) angels are not demigods.



Oxford Dictionary -

Definition of demigod
noun

a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal, or a mortal raised to divine rank: some Roman emperors claimed descent from demigods such as Hercules

Origin:

mid 16th century: translating Latin semideus


I'm not interested in eulero83 definition. MrBukani defined his perameters and I can work within it. From a Creator God /fallen angel perspective, it is quite possible that some of the demigods of pagan past were agents of Lucifer.



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RE: Blasphemy! - 4/3/2013 7:39:05 AM   
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a demigod is generated by the union of a god and a human, like hercules for an example that was generated by juppiter and alcmene



Not within the context of the OP.

Simply because they all imply to have demi gods that are called angels.
Angels have the same identity as the old demigods.

Angels are not by the union of a god and a human.

MrBukani has defined his usage.


ok, so he his just lacking in lexicon, but he refers to "old demigods" affirming that are the same as angels, we don't know if becuause of their nature or becuse of their role, anyway as the old demigods were demi because their nature was mixed (demi means half not almost or alike) so or he don't know what "old demigods" in polytheistic religion were, or this is a logical fallacy.

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